'Bleeding' vegan burger is an 'existential threat' to beef' whines NZ MP

[felixthecat]

Yuk.
Bleeding burgers, meat or vegan are just ewwww.

I'd happily eat a vegan burger just not one that oozes

 

[Idris2002]

Ah, Winnie. Man clearly knows how to make the most of his six weeks in the big job

Idris fans will recall that ten years ago I spent a sojourn in Kiwi land. At the time it was brought to my attention that Winston Peters had devoted part of his speech to reminiscing about his tour of Europe as a young man: on visiting Ireland, he decided that the cuts of meat available through Irish butchers were of a vastly inferior quality, compared to that in the land of the long white cloud.

What I'm saying is, he's incorrigible.

 

[bellaozzydog]

I sometimes feel like the fetishism of food is a “first world” problem

You eat three times a day. It doesn’t have to mean “every meal a banquet”

 

[NoXion]

I think the idea behind the "bleeding" burger is to give it a certain taste that's usually only present in one made out of actual meat. That's why they're using this heme compound. Presumably there is nothing stopping the chef from actually cooking these things properly.

I wouldn't be surprised if those burgers actually tasted pretty good. What *would* surprise me is if they ever become cheap and widely available enough to actually be worth buying over regular beef burgers.

 

[ddraig]

the no bull burgers from iceland are £2 for 2, cheap enough

 

[fucthest8]

Is it still a pointless comparison because it has all the taste and all the goodness. Whereas alcohol free beer misses out one major ingredient that has a huge impact on the enjoyment of the product. Alcohol.

Couldn't disagree more. I like beer for the taste as well. Sometimes, I'd like a beer, but I'm driving, or just don't want a hangover. non-alcoholic beer is a great thing. There's some really good ones now too.

 

[fucthest8]

Seitan burgers are great by the way.

Plus you get to say "Satan Burger please".

 

[ddraig]

Seitan burgers are great by the way.

Plus you get to say "Satan Burger please".

Hail Seitan

 

[ddraig]

 

[fucthest8]

Hail Seitan

Love their website address

 

[binka]

I've read the thread. The resource saving claims makes the assumption massive adoption, I think that's somewhat assperational. Given the choice between real meat and a vegan alternative produced with heme there is a fair chance most meat eaters will pick a meat burger. Good luck to them.

Most perhaps but a sizeable minority would be interested in trying this - I would and I eat meat with about 99.9% of all my meals.

My mum cut down on her meat consumption a few years ago* and a couple of people at work have done the same. I really don't see any downside to this new burger at all.

*Fnar - that's not what I heard and/or what does your dad think about that?

 

[bellaozzydog]

Seitan burgers are great by the way.

Plus you get to say "Satan Burger please".

got a place near me that does a really small menu of seitan based fast food for delivery. It is the filthiest vegan food I've ever eaten, I mean that in a good way, they do a kebab meat and dirty fries. Its greasy tasty takeaway goodness that should only be eaten drunk

 

[Nylock]

Love their website address

I like what they've done with the forks in their logo

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Whay's seitan like? How does it compare to tofu?

 

[Thimble Queen]

Whay's seitan like? How does it compare to tofu?

Much better. Much firmer ime. You can have it in burritos and with chips and stuff. I really like it.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Much better. Much firmer ime. You can have it in burritos and with chips and stuff. I really like it.

Hmmm...might have an experiment with that. What form does it usually come in? I'd probably chuck it in a stir fry in the first instance.

 

[Thimble Queen]

Hmmm...might have an experiment with that. What form does it usually come in? I'd probably chuck it in a stir fry in the first instance.

So you can get it as a kind of lump/block and make it into bits or you can get it already in little pieces. It goes good in stir fry And in wraps.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Thank you

 

[ddraig]

a lot of vegan food is made with seitan which i can't have as wheat based!
there's oomph as well
Oumph! Epic Veggie Eating

 

[Mrs Miggins]

a lot of vegan food is made with seitan which i can't have as wheat based!
there's oomph as well
Oumph! Epic Veggie Eating

Interesting.....is that in supermarkets? Or wholefood stores?

 

[ddraig]

you can get it in tesco

 

[Mrs Miggins]

you can get it in tesco

Well a whole new world awaits! Thank you

 

[Spymaster]

And if me and ddraig agree on something, it’s either utterly totally right or utterly totally wrong.

It's wrong.

 

[Opera Buffa]

Yuk.
Bleeding burgers, meat or vegan are just ewwww.

I'd happily eat a vegan burger just not one that oozes

It also means it sizzle as it grills! Appetising

Whay's seitan like? How does it compare to tofu?

Seitan is wheat-y. It has a wheat-y aftertaste, like a lot of veggie sausages. A 'no' from me. Quite a different taste and texture from tofu.


Have we had tempeh on this thread? That's another soy product but it's very different from tofu in taste and texture.
You can get it from health food stores. Meaty texture, strong earthy, nutty taste.

 

[dylanredefined]

It doesn't sound too appealing, there is a lot of very tasty vegan food - not sure why they feel the need to make a fake burger.

You can get people who like meat and don't care about veganism to eat it.

 

[Chilli.s]

I like all these meat substitute/alternative things, but they are proper expensive, unlike a beef burger which is well cheep and tasty.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I really like seitan - it's pleasingly meaty. However, it is pretty much vegan junk food. It's highly processed, low on nutritional value, and requires a fair bit of energy to make.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

Just ate one of the No Bull burgers from Iceland. It was very nice but could only ever be mistaken for meat by someone who has never eaten meat before.

Stuck to the baking tray like a motherfucker despite greasing with olive oil.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

I really like seitan - it's pleasingly meaty. However, it is pretty much vegan junk food. It's highly processed, low on nutritional value, and requires a fair bit of energy to make.

Same. I do eat meat, but it is a decent substitute. It has the right texture and takes in the taste of whatever sauce you are cooking it in. It's great in Chinese and East Asian food in particular.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Same. I do eat meat, but it is a decent substitute. It has the right texture and takes in the taste of whatever sauce you are cooking it in. It's great in Chinese and East Asian food in particular.

Have you tried Temple of Seitan? I went to the one in Camden yesterday before the Trump protest and got a chicken and bacon burger. It was so good.