Black Lives Matter demos and protests UK, 2020-2021
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mauvais
on reddit or something
If you bother to read a tiny bit more, you will discover that oooh who's this the Society of Merchant Venturers put money towards it. Oh, that's weird, I wonder who they are?
Oh, that's weird too, especially because you said, amongst other things:
Let's be charitable and assume you meant the literal members today. Well, it's not like their whole proud organisation is fundamentally based around slavery, is it. Oh right it is OK yeah but let's look at what they've done lately?
These statues went up 174 years after their subject died, not because the city was booming and celebrating, but because they were on the back foot, losing influence and at risk from the working class. They were 'inventing tradition', playing up their philanthropy and trying to obscure history all to maintain their positions as the world changed. Every thing you have seen is evidence for this - like barely being able to fund the thing and trying to do it on the cheap. All of these behaviours continue in recent times with trying to defend the things or water down the plaque, not say nothing of much bigger patterns beside the events of recent months.
This isn't an argument about a statue, this is about power and control, and it's still happening today, but when people point it out you say it's some Illuminati nonsense. Read more and listen to people.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Power and control no, symbolism yes. To the people who the were primary drivers of pulling down the statue, the key symbolism was that the statue was about slavery and was a visible sign of current injustice which is what people are actually (rightly) mad about. To the defenders and apologists for the statue (not really Colston himself though it is naturally difficult to seperate the two) it's about symbolism of a largely fantasised golden age when things were somehow 'better' and their view of themselves as the custodians of it.
As for the fact that the SoMV has its roots in slavery 700 years ago, that's somehow on the current members? I'm sure they're a bunch of pompous twats but they really can't be blamed for what happened 700 years ago. if you go back to Colston's era then every white person in Bristol today has a similar connection to the slave trade unless his ships and warehouses were automated. But plenty of white faces in the crowds pulling the statue down.
The discussion between me and butchersapron was actually all about the statue and how important it is/isn't, he clearly thinks it is a lot more important than I do and is has entitled to his opinion as much as I am.
As for the fact that the SoMV has its roots in slavery 700 years ago, that's somehow on the current members? I'm sure they're a bunch of pompous twats but they really can't be blamed for what happened 700 years ago. if you go back to Colston's era then every white person in Bristol today has a similar connection to the slave trade unless his ships and warehouses were automated. But plenty of white faces in the crowds pulling the statue down.
The discussion between me and butchersapron was actually all about the statue and how important it is/isn't, he clearly thinks it is a lot more important than I do and is has entitled to his opinion as much as I am.
AverageJoe
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Burnley 'ashamed and embarrassed' by banner flown above Etihad Stadium during Man City game
Burnley are "ashamed and embarrassed" by a banner reading 'White Lives Matter Burnley' that was towed by an aircraft over Etihad Stadium during Monday's match against Manchester City.
www.bbc.co.uk
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Burnley 'ashamed and embarrassed' by banner flown above Etihad Stadium during Man City game
Burnley are "ashamed and embarrassed" by a banner reading 'White Lives Matter Burnley' that was towed by an aircraft over Etihad Stadium during Monday's match against Manchester City.www.bbc.co.uk
Christ. Who paid for that, who made the banner, who let their plane be hired to tow it? Sort of stunt the BNP would have pulled back when they were an actual thing.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
They are both all over Twitter, have been since last night and in the Manchester Evening News
krink
I'll do it this afternoon
I rarely use it but had a look and wow, some of the screenshots of his media accounts - what a colossal bellend he is! the company is air-ads who have taken their facebook page offline. wonder why?
They used a vehicles?
Treacle Toes
Time
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Not sure where to put this so i'll put it on a few threads - fair bit of potentially useful stuff:
We can’t change the world on our own, but we are willing to put expertise at the fingertips of those that share our desire to do so. Knowledge drives progress and one modest action we are taking is opening up validated scholarly content on racism and its prevention, on social and economic justice, on related educational resources and on their effects on society as a whole.
The more we know, the more effectively we can act.
We have curated some of our relevant books and journals content in this area – much of it free to view or open access – and our editorial teams will continue to collaborate with scholars and experts to organize and publish an expanded reading list on this microsite.
We can’t change the world on our own, but we are willing to put expertise at the fingertips of those that share our desire to do so. Knowledge drives progress and one modest action we are taking is opening up validated scholarly content on racism and its prevention, on social and economic justice, on related educational resources and on their effects on society as a whole.
The more we know, the more effectively we can act.
We have curated some of our relevant books and journals content in this area – much of it free to view or open access – and our editorial teams will continue to collaborate with scholars and experts to organize and publish an expanded reading list on this microsite.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Good little watch - 10 mins
not-bono-ever
meh
500 quid for that gig. i hope he thinks its money well spent
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
That guy who organised the 'white lives manner Burnley' fly pass has been sacked from his job, and his g/f has also been sacked due to posts she made on FB. 
www.lancs.live
Burnley FC fan Jake Hepple sacked after plane stunt
Jake Hepple and 60 other Burnley FC fans organised for the White Lives Matter banner to fly over the Etihad Stadium as their game against Manchester City was about to kick off
not-bono-ever
meh
he has killed his old twitter account unsurprisingly.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i don't know what Intensive Racial Sensitivity training consists of but it clearly isn't intensive enough for her to benefit from itThat guy who organised the 'white lives manner Burnley' fly pass has been sacked from his job, and his g/f has also been sacked due to posts she made on FB.
Burnley FC fan Jake Hepple sacked after plane stunt
Jake Hepple and 60 other Burnley FC fans organised for the White Lives Matter banner to fly over the Etihad Stadium as their game against Manchester City was about to kick off
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
I read that report as she 'declined the offer' albeit not that politely.
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
Sounds like something HR just made up to make them look like supportive employers. Though given she wasn't offered the standard racial sensitivity training but the intensive one clearly they think she's pretty far gone.
Numbers
an ting!
‘Fuck off Dwyer’?
not-bono-ever
meh
Poor patriotic fella - go fund me pages fir Jake have been suspended. Apparently the far left are behind it
I don’t think he gets what far left actually is
I don’t think he gets what far left actually is
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BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
I don't think many do. Anything to the left of Blaire is now far left.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
tbf I think it always has been
flypanam
Sausage to fortune
Cops up in Kingsbury have been nicked for taking selfies with the bodies Nicole Smallman and her Sister
www.theguardian.com
eta sorry if this is the wrong thread.
Two Met police officers arrested over photo of murdered sisters
Exclusive: ‘inappropriate’ image of pair killed in London was allegedly sent to group of people
eta sorry if this is the wrong thread.
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DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Not a demo, but an observation by an ex-copper.
Blex's plea for self-reflection has not, shall we say, been well-received by Blue Twitter.
Blex's plea for self-reflection has not, shall we say, been well-received by Blue Twitter.
editor
hiraethified
And in Brixton
www.brixtonbuzz.com
Brixton violence: was it connected to the Black Lives Matter protest in Windrush Square on Weds 24th June 2020?
Social media has lit up with right wing commentators doing their best to link the outbreaks of violence last night with the earlier Brixton Black Lives Matter live music protest in Windrush Square…
www.brixtonbuzz.com
alsoknownas
some bloke
It all feels a bit zeitgeist-y, but still - genuine goosebumps to see Olive Morris staring back at me from the Google page today!
ska invita
back on the other side
The beach=block party is a poor analogy i think - but analogies can be made with police response to all the other illegal parties that have been going on around the UK this year, on a variety of scales, which seem to have been policed in a much more hands-off approach (*hard to say without being at them all), and which also included reports of stabbings - which does suggest a different standard of police response depending on who is at the party. There are other factors at play between the differences in response (location/which local police force for example), but policing illegal parties usually goes down in one of two ways - police push in to shut down=confrontation, or leave it be=peaceful
Britain’s illegal coronavirus raves are impossible to police
As the lockdown is eased, people are heading to illegal raves organised on social media. The authorities will struggle to police them
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Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Perhaps overestimating the importance of riots is the single strand that connect's Paul's time in Class War to his current involvement with the Henry Jackson Society:
