Black Lives Matter demos and protests UK, 2020-2021
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dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
Other than the mythical lefty equality lecturer the daily mail quote. Has anyone ever claimed otherwise? That shirt is just cringe worthy.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Ask cheesypoof?
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Have to say it made me chuckle. How much of a douche do you need to be to wear such a thing (and presumably actually believe being white is under threat)?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I don't think the model's stance really sells the shirt
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
springy
New Member
to me it still feels weird to see brands and stores named like “white” or “black” something…but at least this is changing now…look at the rice brand Uncle Ben’s or Aunt Jemina…super popular products in the States and now they will get a new look…after… I don’t know how many years…maybe a hundred? This is an important step that should have been gone already many years ago…Marketing in general has to change to bear in mind that your skin colour doesn’t matter…But nowadays marketing still conveys the image of humiliation and prejudice of black people (as slaves) and the great power of white people (slave trader)…let’s see where this new changes will lead us to…
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I think it's only weird if the branding is actually modeled on racial archetypes, like Uncle Ben's/Aunt Jemima's. I don't think companies should change their name or branding just because Mr Black or Mrs White decided to base theirs on their own name. I doubt that The White Company of London are subtly signalling their predilection for pointy hoods.
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The lovely cuddly progressive Avon and Somerset police have today started their colston statue public facing investigation and are looking for grasses. Notable that the evening post has declined to publish their rogues gallery when they normally jump at the chance to. I wonder if this starting this week is anything to do with the heightened multiple front assault the merchant venturer gangsters are going to be facing from today on - for which, watch this space.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Sadly few other media sites seem to share their views on this
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Another local media thing, bristol 24-7 - which was positioning itself as a to the left of the post - has been under serious attack for publishing the pics. Given that they rely on subs and subscribers to contribute a lot of their content i think that may prove to be a very costly mistake.
andysays
Love and solidarity
You say that, but I'm pretty sure I remember a review of the White Stripes suggesting that their name was in some way dodgy...
sounds like some kind of apocryphal bullshit story to me.
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
Clearly my and my sons skin colour does matter. What does marketing matter right now if I and my son are still going to have less opportunity and have negative connotations applied to us? What about when he goes to Cornwall to visit his mate and when they go to the pub every fucker goes up to him asking him if he has drugs for sale???? (He is totally straight edge apart from the odd beer).
What about when people are surprised I'm intelligent? Or when I'm angry I'm just an angry black woman and that's the only justification for my anger. Or that people are scared of me before they have met me?
Let's get the priorities right.
Marketing has a part to play but there are more pressing things going on.
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
And imo is nothing about what is really going on. It just takes away from the actual issues which are not if something is named black or white ffs
andysays
Love and solidarity
Well whatever it sounds like to you, I think it was Rob Young in Wire magazine who wrote it.
dig it out and post it on the ID politics thread.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Such idiots are best ignored, I think.
andysays
Love and solidarity
I agree, I wasn't seeking to make a major point or suggest that it's of any real significance.
it's not of any significance, but as an observation it's fairly close to saying they won't even let you celebrate christmas in it's form and purpose, so I'd be interested in seeing how much truth there is behind it.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I could easily believe that some well-meaning but liberally misguided type, wracked with white guilt, might make such a silly observation. Such events do occasionally happen, and of course there will inevitably be reactionary cunts attempting to make hay out of them. But so far as I can tell they've never been "official policy" or anything that warrants the fake outrage from certain quarters. That's usually the story behind things like that, in my experience.
or they're sometimes complex and nuanced arguments reduced to the point of absurdity in order to dismiss them
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
The Wire Issue 211 editorial by Rob Young
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
it does not really suggest that the name is dodgy in the way that is suggested here.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Further to this the post have now published an editorial basically calling this as bullshit explaining why they won't publish the pics, don't support any prosecutions and also pointing the finger at mayor rees who himself has tried to paint a not very accurate pic of himself as a fearless anti-colston/merchant venturer.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Thanks for that, Fozzie Bear .
I'll have a read of it when I'm on a PC later and see if it matches my recollection
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
And this is where things will start to get interesting, the best thing at this point would be to fish the statue out of the drink, send it to the scrapyard/museum, clean the plinth and forget all this ever happened because at the end of the day no-one really gives a shit about a 125 year old statue to a guy who died 300 years ago.
This however is what will not happen, Plod doesn't get to pick and choose whether something is justified or not and they can't ignore what is a clear cut case of criminal damage.
The Mayor and the council are equally between a rock and a hard place, they can't justify not co-operating with a legtimate police investigation and I suspect they really, really don't wan't to be seen as supporting it either.
I suspect that both the Mayor and Plod are probably hoping that this time no-one comes forward and after a bit they can quietly file it under unsolved.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The statue already is out of the water been restored and put away for safekeeping.
Lots of people give a shit and have done for a very long time. Did you not actually see what happened? Do you know of the multi-decades campaigns, the long running public debates about this? Why do you think this has not gone away for so many years if no one gives a shit? Why is it still dominating local discussion? And proper everyday mainstream discussion at that.
The police proceeded because a complaint from the council was made. The complaint didn't need to be made. They're not looking not to co-operate with the police. The mayor certainly doesn't want to be seen as pushing the police to investigate and prosecute as he's sought to make personal and political capital from posing as a fearless anti-colston/venturers opponent. He's not. Nevertheless, the council he leads has made a complaint. Why would you would think the police wouldn't like to get the chance to stick their fingers in local troublemakers as well? They've been doing it for years - sticking vid cams in activist pubs and meeting places and so on - i think you (and others) don't quite know what's been going on down here for a long time now.
