Beating the Fascists: The authorised history of Anti-Fascist Action

[malatesta32]

crivvens! the re-emergence of colin jordan 'hitler's milkman':
https://liveraf.wordpress.com/2012/06/19/liverpools-secret-holocaust-denying-nazi-author/

 

[butchersapron]

Not really news - and despite the last lines, his writings are not 'academic' - not in the sense they mean anyway.

 

[butchersapron]

remind us butchers! but if its anything like the lecomber/owens things - oh dear! 'diamond' jim currently flogging the 'britain first' family friendly fash loser outfit. crivvens!

Owens claimed he been charged with intimidating Dowson a few years back. Given his record i was wondering if anything came of 'it'.

 

[malatesta32]

aint heard of the case butchers. owens was griffins strong arm but was replaced with tommy williams and his covert eejits who used smear tactics on the web. owens has a pretty long criminal record and has been up on murder charges several times but even the fash think he's a heedcase. he is currently 'john the baptist' on shirtfront and is always entertaining in a 'im a nutjob watch me wobble' kind of way!

 

[The39thStep]

crivvens! the re-emergence of colin jordan 'hitler's milkman':
https://liveraf.wordpress.com/2012/06/19/liverpools-secret-holocaust-denying-nazi-author/

Didn't his father fight for the Republicans in the Spanish Civil war?

 

[The39thStep]

aint heard of the case butchers. owens was griffins strong arm but was replaced with tommy williams and his covert eejits who used smear tactics on the web. owens has a pretty long criminal record and has been up on murder charges several times but even the fash think he's a heedcase. he is currently 'john the baptist' on shirtfront and is always entertaining in a 'im a nutjob watch me wobble' kind of way!

I seem to remember some time ago that Owens and the BNP youth leader were involved in a contra temps with some posters on here possibly outside Salford University?

 

[bignose1]

I seem to remember some time ago that Owens and the BNP youth leader were involved in a contra temps with some posters on here possibly outside Salford University?

Thats right with the little cocky dick Tony Wentworth...Owens doesnt like going out of Liverpool so it was unusual to see him off his patch.

 

[ayatollah]

Message for you, Bignose, from an auld comrade who wishes to be known as "Loose Cannon". Message reads , " I've got my eye on you".

 

[malatesta32]

Didn't his father fight for the Republicans in the Spanish Civil war?

yeah i think he did. much to his mortal shame apparently!

 

[butchersapron]

Let that be a lesson to all parents, don't play that shitty rebel music all the time, your kids hate it and will grow to hate you.

 

[bignose1]

Message for you, Bignose, from an auld comrade who wishes to be known as "Loose Cannon". Message reads , " I've got my eye on you".

Message to Loose Cannon...have you got big tits and like spanking....

 

[bignose1]

yeah i think he did. much to his mortal shame apparently!

When I visited the BM office back in the very early 80's when it was in Shotton....I bumped into McLaughlin on his way back from the Post Office. I blagged him a little bit and he said that if I came back in a hour we could have a chat. As I was waiting outside the front door I thought bollox he's probably a boring c**t so I just prised off the black phoenix door knocker and pegged it. Still got it.

 

[TopCat]

Is this thread turning into some sort of rehab for Tilzey here?

 

[bignose1]

Is this thread turning into some sort of rehab for Tilzey here?

In what sense TC....

 

[bignose1]

In what sense TC....

In fact Ill anticipate what I think you mean.....so fuck off. Rehabilitation...you cheeky twat.And you are.....?????

 

[The39thStep]

Is this thread turning into some sort of rehab for Tilzey here?

Think we need to move on from this.We know the differences and we have had more than enough debate , no one is going to change their mind or view and no point going round in circles.

 

[bignose1]

Think we need to move on from this.We know the differences and we have had more than enough debate , no one is going to change their mind or view and no point going round in circles.

39..it aint going to happen with these lot. More about their shortcomings than anything to do with me I reckon. Their mutual spanking circle hasnt grown...just dishing out snidier slaps.

 

[bignose1]

Message to Loose Cannon...have you got big tits and like spanking....

Think Ive sussed it.....no probs Roy..xxxxx

 

[bignose1]

Think we need to move on from this.We know the differences and we have had more than enough debate , no one is going to change their mind or view and no point going round in circles.

They came on here to offload personal insults not really to promote a book. They then dissappear for a while until theyve thought of something else to winge about. Sad twats.

 

[malatesta32]

the BM mainly drew on skinheads as foot soldiers but they never achieved anything apart from a wee bit of a street presence, they were damaged by ray hill/searchloght intervention, nicky crane was also a leading figure and he typifies them prety much. they're no much the now!

 

[manny-p]

the BM mainly drew on skinheads as foot soldiers but they never achieved anything apart from a wee bit of a street presence

They were responsible for many attacks on immigrants etc. So from their point of view they achieved a fair bit.

 

[intersol32]

the BM mainly drew on skinheads as foot soldiers but they never achieved anything apart from a wee bit of a street presence, they were damaged by ray hill/searchloght intervention, nicky crane was also a leading figure and he typifies them prety much. they're no much the now!

They were much more openly nazi, and presented themselves in a paramiltary fashion. Which (lets face it) given the track record of similar far-right groups, is never going to endear itself to the population in general. They also tend to become magnets for complete nutjobs and various state agents.

To confirm this in a more up to date example, you'd only have to check Malatesta's recent post on the EDL watch thread about "grasses rife in CxF" etc.

 

[malatesta32]

they probably realised quite early that they wd never get anywhere electorally so focussed on brownshirt street hassle which provides fun for the eejits at least. lots of skins joined which gave skinheads a bad name.

 

[audiotech]

the BM mainly drew on skinheads as foot soldiers but they never achieved anything apart from a wee bit of a street presence, they were damaged by ray hill/searchloght intervention, nicky crane was also a leading figure and he typifies them prety much. they're no much the now!

Some linked to the BM attacked the local Trades Club, smashing windows and daubing swastika's. Along with physical violence that manny p references (nasty if you happened to be on the receiving end), that was their sum total in terms of activities - violence and intimidation. Searchlight gave a figure of around 3000 members at the BM's height.

I'd include Gary Bushell in giving skinheads a bad name and he wasn't even a skinhead. A mockney, with dire dress sense, in an attempt to be prolier than thou.

 

[bignose1]

Some linked to the BM attacked the local Trades Club, smashing windows and daubing swastika's. Along with physical violence that manny p references (nasty if you happened to be on the receiving end), that was their sum total in terms of activities - violence and intimidation. Searchlight gave a figure of around 3000 members at the BM's height.

Went on an anti BM march in Leamington Spa in late 70's and was perhaps the most drawn out day for aggro ever...skirmishing started around late morning and carried into the late evening.That was a shift and a half. Anyone remember that one. Lewisham was a full day but cant recall anything as full on as that.

 

[The39thStep]

Went on an anti BM march in Leamington Spa in late 70's and was perhaps the most drawn out day for aggro ever...skirmishing started around late morning and carried into the late evening.That was a shift and a half. Anyone remember that one. Lewisham was a full day but cant recall anything as full on as that.

Wasn't Relf's house in Leamington ?Can remember the one in Welling and they had a big turn out for a march in Paddington as well. Do you remember the Peter Marriner business?

 

[bignose1]

Wasn't Relf's house in Leamington ?Can remember the one in Welling and they had a big turn out for a march in Paddington as well. Do you remember the Peter Marriner business?

Yeah it was but Ive a feeling this march was a bit after that episode.....when he'd jumped ship and was in the NF. Was at Paddington but got sidetracked in Hyde Park...the Marriner business...yeah had some dealings around that as I was doing some odd days work when Searchlight was in Birmingham. Actually moved them out overnight when they got info about a planned arson on the office...Got some stuff from around that period...think the magazine 'Forewarned' that Dave Roberts did...Ill try and dig out and put up.

 

[The39thStep]

Yeah it was but Ive a feeling this march was a bit after that episode.....when he'd jumped ship and was in the NF. Was at Paddington but got sidetracked in Hyde Park...the Marriner business...yeah had some dealings around that as I was doing some odd days work when Searchlight was in Birmingham. Actually moved them out overnight when they got info about a planned arson on the office...Got some stuff from around that period...think the magazine 'Forewarned' that Dave Roberts did...Ill try and dig out and put up.

Fowarned had a loony theory that facsism was actually linked to the aristocracy and landowners as a class base.

 

[malatesta32]

Went on an anti BM march in Leamington Spa in late 70's and was perhaps the most drawn out day for aggro ever...skirmishing started around late morning and carried into the late evening.That was a shift and a half. Anyone remember that one. Lewisham was a full day but cant recall anything as full on as that.

seems fairly undocumented in the usual sources. pray tell sir!

 

[malatesta32]

Some linked to the BM attacked the local Trades Club, smashing windows and daubing swastika's. Along with physical violence that manny p references (nasty if you happened to be on the receiving end), that was their sum total in terms of activities - violence and intimidation. Searchlight gave a figure of around 3000 members at the BM's height.

I'd include Gary Bushell in giving skinheads a bad name and he wasn't even a skinhead. A mockney, with dire dress sense, in an attempt to be prolier than thou.

yeah i remember that kind of thing. scarey of course but in terms of political efficacy fairly wee. i heard the 3,000 number. some skins i knew where involved but whether they actually 'joined up' or not i dont know or for how long - more like the scarwling of NF on walls etc. and bushell? crivvens! i wasted a quid on that hoolies book. whoever let him near a typewriter?