Thunderclap Newman?
Batley and Spen by-election
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Thunderclap Newman?
Leighsw2
strictly off the record
Yes, agreed! I find his shop in Brixton Village pretty annoying. Other than that I don't have any strong feeling about him. But what is he doing in Batley? It's all very strange.....
You got it
Tbh I googled it. Tis a good quiz question.
It's a great track. Before my time, but I spent much of my teenage years in the 1980's listening to songs from the 1960's.
it's just what happens in elections isn't it? activists travel to campaign wherever they're needed 'cause they want their party to win.
I met a load of London Labour members campaigning in Preston for the locals the other month. it's not at all unusual.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
I've said it before but I was too young so I remember the 60s it's the 70s I don't remember
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two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
How was it in Preston?
I've said it before but
I've said it before but I was too young so I remember the 60s it's the 70s I don't remember
Too busy having fun in the 70s?
Like they say about Woodstock, if you can remember it you weren't there.
I think I was there in the 70s
I visited Woodstock, the place in New York state, in the 1990's. My New York uncle has a house there, as well as a flat in Mahattan.
I only really remember the thrift store, I was just 12 at the time. I'd never been in a shop that sold clothes by the kilo before, and I loved it.
I wasn't alive when Woodstock the festival happened. I wish!
Leighsw2
strictly off the record
Believe me, you probably aren't.
Labour did fine.
RileyOBlimey
Well-Known Member
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well I've said elsewhere there's more going on here shoring up the Labour vote than just the Preston Model - Preston isn't Hartlepool or Batley - it's really got more in common structurally with Labour's new city heartlands than it does with the old industrial seats in the red wall.
Southlondon
The river's there for a reason
I am an Ex long-standing Labour Party member who left the party because I believe the old coalition of left of centre entities that made up the party to secure working class representation in parliament needs to fragment. I personally want to see proportional representation so that new coalitions can be built between new left of centre groupings including elements of the green movement and excluding the adherents to neoliberal ideology.
forgetting corbyn as an individual, what struck me from the 2 election campaigns under a leftist leadership was the energy and enthusiasm of the thousands of new members and activists, and the way in which their enthusiasm for change ( I accept it was reformist as opposed to revolutionary but none the less it was A healthy shift in terms of Labour party policy) was so effectively crushed by the party right wingers who control the party Machine with an iron fist that Stalin would have been impressed by. It became blatantly clear they would rather allow the tories to win than the Labour left to have a chance of forming a government and that their control is more or less absolute . .
I have spent a lifetime defending my presence in this disfunctional party to mates that put their energies into the plethora of little left wing ‘revolutionary’ parties on the basis that I’d rather live under a Labour government as opposed to a tory government - NHS, health & safety legislation, equality act, workers rights etc, and the hope that if the left could wrest control we could see a far wider gap between a Labour or tory government and life would be far better for ordinary people than it is at present. I still can’t see myself joining the SWP/socialist party or whatever to sell papers to other lefties on drizzly Sunday morning marches through the back streets of the west end, but I know want to see the Labour Party put out of its misery quickly so that a new left coalition can be built minus the baggage of The neoliberal right wingers.
If I lived up there I would probably be holding my nose and voting for Galloway in the hope of hastening the demise of Labour - putting it out of its misery so to speak
forgetting corbyn as an individual, what struck me from the 2 election campaigns under a leftist leadership was the energy and enthusiasm of the thousands of new members and activists, and the way in which their enthusiasm for change ( I accept it was reformist as opposed to revolutionary but none the less it was A healthy shift in terms of Labour party policy) was so effectively crushed by the party right wingers who control the party Machine with an iron fist that Stalin would have been impressed by. It became blatantly clear they would rather allow the tories to win than the Labour left to have a chance of forming a government and that their control is more or less absolute . .
I have spent a lifetime defending my presence in this disfunctional party to mates that put their energies into the plethora of little left wing ‘revolutionary’ parties on the basis that I’d rather live under a Labour government as opposed to a tory government - NHS, health & safety legislation, equality act, workers rights etc, and the hope that if the left could wrest control we could see a far wider gap between a Labour or tory government and life would be far better for ordinary people than it is at present. I still can’t see myself joining the SWP/socialist party or whatever to sell papers to other lefties on drizzly Sunday morning marches through the back streets of the west end, but I know want to see the Labour Party put out of its misery quickly so that a new left coalition can be built minus the baggage of The neoliberal right wingers.
If I lived up there I would probably be holding my nose and voting for Galloway in the hope of hastening the demise of Labour - putting it out of its misery so to speak
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
the model wouldn't work in Hartlepool or Batley?
Leighsw2
strictly off the record
Certainly this is true. I guess I'm wondering if Labour are struggling to get local activists on the ground to canvass (as apparently they did in Hartlepool) and so are having to rely on people from further afield. I mean, Brixton is quite far away from Batley!
Southlondon
The river's there for a reason
Vauxhall Labour Party ( includes Brixton), is a massive branch with a lot of activists (mainly but not entirely right wingers) and they often send a coach of activists away for by-elections and marginals so this is not unusual
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
It isn’t. Not least because Tom Petty’s version is much better. Too many variables and you can’t guess it from any other info.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Think the idea is people are supposed to guess Phil Collins. Making people bring Phil Collins to mind and then not even giving them a point is pretty good quizmaster trolling.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Wetherspoons did actually start out with various of the essays themes in mind. An absolute was no music, drinkers should be able to hear each other’s conversations. They also went for great old buildings (not necessarily Victorian). They had a decent range including a beer in London for 79p a pint, back in 93. Their food pretty much fills the prerequisites too.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Are you trying to tell me that George Orwell's legacy is Tim Wetherspoon?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Its the nature of reformism, innit?
