Batley and Spen by-election

[killer b]

How did this get escalated to "repugnant". Really, just go for a walk around the park sometimes.

I dunno man, you brought this guy up - You think there's something so awful about him, his involvement with the campaign is an indication Labour want to lose. Just trying to work out what that might be, cause I can't tell looking at that photo of him on the campaign trail, and at the moment I'm having to assume it's just that you hate gay men. Maybe there's another explanation though.

 

[Loose meat]

hitmouse Sure, tell them you spend your days on the internet impressing people you will never meet with your 'so correct' politics.

Either that, or follow a range of twitter accounts that engage with local politics and political personages.

 

[Argonia]

I was quite interested to see Christopher Hitchens call Galloway a 'pimp' after his flirtation with Saddam Hussein. But then Hitchens - who did so much fine work on the American Revolution against British monarchical tyranny - probably drank a bit too much and lost his head and supported the Iraq war launched by war criminal Anthony Charles Lynton Blair so none of us are perfect.

 

[Loose meat]

I dunno man, you brought this guy up - You think there's something so awful about him, his involvement with the campaign is an indication Labour want to lose. Just trying to work out what that might be, cause I can't tell looking at that photo of him on the campaign trail, and at the moment I'm having to assume it's just that you hate gay men. Maybe there's another explanation though.

So that's the end of our interations you nasty little internet cunt.

 

[killer b]

oh no.

 

[brogdale]

Patient and effective killer b

 

[Loose meat]

oh no.

Total internet legend. What an absolute cunt. Feed that internet presence; stand tall in your pants in your bedroom.

 

[brogdale]

Time for goodbyes.

 

[cuppa tee]

hitmouse Sure, tell them you spend your days on the internet impressing people you will never meet with your 'so correct' politics.

Either that, or follow a range of twitter accounts that engage with local politics and political personages.

Hi, I’m from Lambeth and well aware of Mr Normal, Granted he’s a bit divisive amongst locals who know about him ( not that many) and regarded by some as a bit of a self publicist for his niche ‘designs’... nonetheless I think it’s possible you may be over estimating the power of his branding to offend politically even north of the River Thames let alone Batley and Spen.

 

[Sprocket.]

We 'ad to do that when t'bailiffs came for t'settee.

But the cud’nt gerrin through frunt doer, cos o’ virtual tin bath fulla virtual coal.

 

[Argonia]

But the cud’nt gerrin through frunt doer, cos o’ virtual tin bath fulla virtual coal.

What does this mean? Is it Scottish like James Kelman?

 

[brogdale]

I think they mean "high".

 

[Sprocket.]

What does this mean? Is it Scottish like James Kelman?

Americans asked me if I was Scottish when they heard me speaking. The only places in Yorkshire, where I’m from, they had heard of were Leeds and York.

 

[Argonia]

Americans asked me if I was Scottish when they heard me speaking. The only places in Yorkshire, where I’m from, they had heard of were Leeds and York.

Went dancing in Leeds when I lived in Todmorden. And a former girlfriend studied at York. Have never been but want to go to the Jorvik centre.

 

[PR1Berske]

But the cud’nt gerrin through frunt doer, cos o’ virtual tin bath fulla virtual coal.

"When they knocked down our street, it were like t'war all o'er again. Rubble everywhere, dead bodies. Council shuda lerrus know."

 

[Sprocket.]

"When they knocked down our street, it were like t'war all o'er again. Rubble everywhere, dead bodies. Council shuda lerrus know."

Council, luxury! National Coal Board owned ours.

 

[NoXion]

So that's the end of our interations you nasty little internet cunt.

You are such a snowflake.

 

[hitmouse]

hitmouse Sure, tell them you spend your days on the internet impressing people you will never meet with your 'so correct' politics.

Either that, or follow a range of twitter accounts that engage with local politics and political personages.

So local to you is Lambeth, right? I'm a bit confused cos, based on how you were sounding off about the Red Wall and that earlier, I was assuming that you had some kind of connection to Batley and Spen or something, but it now seems like, being charitable, your earlier posts could have been rephrased as "look at these idiots from Lambeth Labour getting involved in the Batley and Spen by-election, what do they know about life in Batley and Spen? If they were smart, they'd be taking advice from me, some fucking Londoner with no apparent connection to West Yorkshire." I mean, I wouldn't claim to be any great expert on West Yorkshire or anything, but I'm starting to suspect that compared to you I probably look like t'cunt who lost hat on Ilkley Moor.

But the cud’nt gerrin through frunt doer, cos o’ virtual tin bath fulla virtual coal.

Front door's for funerals, innit? Anyway, never mind virtual tin bath, where do you keep all t'dartboards and bog roll with pictures of Philip Normal's face on, that incredibly controversial Yorkshire figure that everyone in Yorkshire definitely has a strong opinion on?

 

[Dystopiary]

Muslim women in Batley and Spen call out actions of ‘loud minority’ of men

In open letter women condemn behaviour that brought community ‘into limelight for all wrong reasons’

eta: Link fixed.

 

[Raheem]

Muslim women in Batley and Spen call out actions of ‘loud minority’ of men​

In open letter women condemn behaviour that brought community ‘into limelight for all wrong reasons’

Broken link, Dystopiary.

 

[Loose meat]

So local to you is Lambeth, right? I'm a bit confused cos, based on how you were sounding off about the Red Wall and that earlier, I was assuming that you had some kind of connection to Batley and Spen or something, but it now seems like, being charitable, your earlier posts could have been rephrased as "look at these idiots from Lambeth Labour getting involved in the Batley and Spen by-election, what do they know about life in Batley and Spen? If they were smart, they'd be taking advice from me, some fucking Londoner with no apparent connection to West Yorkshire." I mean, I wouldn't claim to be any great expert on West Yorkshire or anything, but I'm starting to suspect that compared to you I probably look like t'cunt who lost hat on Ilkley Moor.

Front door's for funerals, innit? Anyway, never mind virtual tin bath, where do you keep all t'dartboards and bog roll with pictures of Philip Normal's face on, that incredibly controversial Yorkshire figure that everyone in Yorkshire definitely has a strong opinion on?

This is the most bizarre read I've seen for quite a while, and that's just talking about the internet people. If Batley Labour came down to Angell Town with their flat caps, whippets and ferrets down their trosers and tried to explain to residents why they knew better than they did about how they should vote, they'd need an airlift to Kings.

What that has to do with identifying regional dynamics and national strategies is an internet mystery, by-gum. You really need to spend less time impressing people you'll never meet and more time reading people like David Goodhart, Helen Thompson and Mark Blythe.

 

[Dystopiary]

Broken link, Dystopiary.

Thanks. Should be sorted now.

 

[belboid]

Same story here - Muslim women in Batley and Spen call out actions of ‘loud minority’ of men

 

[hitmouse]

This is the most bizarre read I've seen for quite a while, and that's just talking about the internet people. If Batley Labour came down to Angell Town with their flat caps, whippets and ferrets down their trosers and tried to explain to residents why they knew better than they did about how they should vote, they'd need an airlift to Kings.

What that has to do with identifying regional dynamics and national strategies is an internet mystery, by-gum. You really need to spend less time impressing people you'll never meet and more time reading people like David Goodhart, Helen Thompson and Mark Blythe.

That's as may be, but I don't think that's what's going on here. What's happening on this thread seems to be a bit more like if someone from Batley who had never been to London was loudly pontificating on how people in Angell Town might react to things, based on their own projection/ventriloquism of what people in that London might be like. I've never heard of Philip Normal before this week, but I've now decided I'm more interested in his opinions about Batley than yours, based solely on the fact that apparently he's been to the fucking place and talked to some people.

 

[andysays]

voting for a smaller party that wont win in an election is a perfectly acceptable way of using a vote within the narrow confines of this democracy
trying to send cryptic messages through votes/not voting is about as much power as you have at the ballot box, and if that message is We Hate Starmer, then fair enough. I voted I hate starmer at the last opportunity and will do again if hes still around. it wont change the outcome of my safe seat election, but it might make someone take notice and try and decipher the voting trend

Does this argument work for anyone who voted "I hate Cameron" five years ago?

 

[killer b]

David Goodhart, Helen Thompson and Mark Blythe.

stop trying to impress people you'll never meet on the internet

 

[redsquirrel]

Yes, representative democracy necessarily negates voter sovereignty, but in terms of 'responsibility' for the electoral outcome there are surely gradations dependent upon whether or not the voter is favouring an incumbent (with a 'track record') or challenger and whether to not the selected candidate/party has a viable prospect of achieving a governing majority?

For socialists? For communists? For anarchists?

Or maybe voting could be seen as the ultimately apolitical action it is and the real political actions of people could be the basis of organising.

 

[NoXion]

You really need to spend less time impressing people you'll never meet and more time reading people like David Goodhart, Helen Thompson and Mark Blythe.

Literally who?

 

[hitmouse]

Literally who?

One's a Cambridge prof, one's an Old Etonian, son of a Tory MP, from the Lehman Brothers family. You know, exactly the sort of people who've got the most insight into life in deindustrialised West Yorkshire towns.

 

[killer b]

Mark Blythe is great tbf. Helen Thompson is the least unbearable presenter of Talking Politics podcast, David Goodhart I dunno much about. Still, they've all been read, some regularly by posters on this forum, I dunno who this freak imagines we are.