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Ello folks.
A mate of mine (Firky) suggested i have a nose around ere as Atos are in the process of trying to send me to work without even assessing me. I've had Crohn's disease pretty bad since i was 13(38 now) which has pretty much left me stuck in the house due to all the other stuff that come's with Crohns ike arthritis, no sleep, not eating and constant pain amongst other things. Last time i was assessed they did a home visit and wrote me off for good. So how they think i'm fit now when i'm a hell of a lot worse than i was i don't know. At the time i got the forms from atos i had just moved doctors so could'nt send any evidence with the forms. I did include 5 pages of notes about my condition's which they just ignored obviously and put me in the back to work group which i am supposed to start attending by the 26th of this month. I am going to apeal the decision but need to get as much info as possible to help with my apeal.
So any help is very much apreciated.
Thanks in advance folks :)

We'll do what we can to help and ignore my occasionally twisted sense of humour as it's just my personal way of coping.

With that in mind, you could always give your Crohns complete freedom to function spectacularly in the middle of your assessment. Might help their usually-chronically- understated assessment notes along a little...
 
so she's either new or good at pretending.

don't know quite how it will go - he is better on most fronts than he was 6 months ago, and did say so (which may have been a tactical error)

I'd go with good at pretending (being the pessimist that I am)

Yeah, if he's said he's improved, they'll probably decide he's going to improve further

Fingers crossed though
 
I wrote to ATOS when they contacted me and said the session would be recorded due to problems with memory. The first doctor assigned to do my assessment chickened out. The second doctor failed to keep an appointment. In my DLA appeal info ATOS say that the second doctor probably wouldn't have agreed to being recorded either. :)
When was this? Didn't they forbid you from making a recording? That's what they said to me. Has the policy changed?
 
For the home assessment that they chickened out on, I demanded that it was recorded due to my short term memory problems and when they said that they didn't "offer" home recordings I went fucking ballistic!
Not cost effective to pay for a minder for each outside assessment!
 
For the home assessment that they chickened out on, I demanded that it was recorded due to my short term memory problems and when they said that they didn't "offer" home recordings I went fucking ballistic!
Not cost effective to pay for a minder for each outside assessment!

that's not what they told us. we were told we could have a recorded home asessmnt.


and this hit my facebook from a freind today.

"Face book has just asked me 'How are you doing Val' Well this is the reply and if anyone has contacts in the press or in the Government please pass it on!
Dear Mr Iain Duncan Smith,
I do hope you are well.
Today I got 2 letters, The one from your estimed department informed me that since a year had passed since my last IV treatment for cancer I was no longer entitled to contributions based Employment Support Allowance (ESA) from 2nd March 2013. It informed me that the 'benefit' would stop and no more money would be paid. It also informed me that I could if I wanted to apply to carry on receiving this benefit as means tested but that if my 'partner' worked 25 hours or more or we had 16k in assets/savings I was ineligible for further help. It also informed me they would keep paying my NI contributions for the moment but if once I had been assessed (by ATOS) as fit to work they would immediately cease. Of course there was a paragraph warning me that if I did not pay my NI contributions my state pension and any further benefit would be affected. So Mr Duncan-Smith that is £400 per month I have to find...
The second letter was an invitation by ATOS to a medical to see if I was fit to work, having been to a previous one they assess my capability to work on repetitive lifting work be asking if I can lift a pint of milk.
Mr Duncan-Smith I do hope sincerely you are not affected by cancer. Mostly people with cancer look normal, no wheelchair, no crutches, no outward signs most of the time, it is very difficult to be treated for this nasty disease and to survive the treatment unscathed. I look just like I did before but now take 4 prescription medications per day due to ongoing treatment and the after effects of chemotherapy, radiotherapy and surgery. I am having investigations into possible arthritic conditions and fibromyalgia due to cancer treatment and life is not what it was.
Mr Duncan-Smith you must think I am lazy or not bothered to work or be part of your Big Society, but nothing could be further from the truth. Due to almost dying from septicemia from chemotherapy treatment I had to sell my award winning business that employed up to 10 others all of whom paid tax....to your government , was about to expand and employ more and that in a recession too. I have never ceased to be active in my local community and do more volunteer work than most people including supporting people with cancer.
I have also become a student and am studying part time at college (part time being 17 hours of lectures and practicals some of which i find jolly hard due to my joint problems) to try and change career, but will not be qualified and able to get employment until September when I qualify.
Mr Duncan-Smith, you and your fellow ministers often say we must get people back to work and often imply that we are slackers, spongers or down right lazy. I am 52 years old and have worked very hard all my life, its hard trying to change career at my age not because I wanted to but due to illness.
Oh and by the way being suddenly £400 down per month is going to be very difficult.....we still have to pay our mortgage and our council tax and actually live below the poverty line according to statistics already. We are trying to sell our house, but to be honest we should probably eat it instead.
Yours faithfully
Me"
 
All assessments should be automatically recorded by a third party independent company, payment by results with deductions for failure to record and recordings given to claimants at the end of the assessment.

The whole basis of ALL privatisations is that the private company does not get properly monitored. This is because they have to be able to claim to be more efficient than the public sector AND make a profit. They can only get to do that if they can get away with cheating. So, for instance, the DWP get no confirmation that ATOS assessments have been carried out by a qualified medical practitioner, let alone a name.

A fair system would be great. It's not going to happen because it couldn't be done cheaper than the old system of direct DWP assessments. The government has absolutely no interest in ensuring the system is fair. All they need is to be able to give ATOS and the like the huge wads of cash that were (unspokenly) promised in return for substantial donations to party funds, and create enough fear in the general public mind to increase UNUM's sales of unemployment insurance policies, also as (unspokenly) promised in return for donations.
 
Is this a live debate? Why is it being held so late at night? Maybe if it was done in the early afternoon more people would turn up. She says, with some sort of strange hope that some politicians give a shite. But I do wonder if that makes any difference.
 
Is this a live debate? Why is it being held so late at night? Maybe if it was done in the early afternoon more people would turn up. She says, with some sort of strange hope that some politicians give a shite. But I do wonder if that makes any difference.

Is what a live debate? :hmm:

If you mean the Child Exploitation one, then that was in November around midday
 
Hi all,
Has anyone had experience of the Independent tier of the ATOS complaints procedure ?
I believe it is in 2 parts - in the 'medical' part we had all of our 3 assessments declared not fit for purpose but I believe there is also an admin response ? anyone know how long this takes to come ?
Thanks,
Dee

http://dwpnegligence.wordpress.com
 
The brutal...system.
So much info and evidence confirms the wrongness of the ATOS assessment procedure.
The ESA50 'form' is designed to lower the points used to score us.

How distressing if you are not the kind of person who can find their way around a keyboard or even understand some words and sentences.
In a few weeks I shall be out of their reach as I become an OAP and already THE SYSTEM IS WORKING!!

I received a letter from The Pension Service telling me about the change ESA/Pension, when it would happen and how.
Then I got a phone call saying that I am entitled to more re my problems and that my DLA is untouched.
I think I shall be out of all this.
Let's see.
 
I just heard that for DLA full mobility (which I have) the distance one can walk has changed.
They snuck that in.
All forms asking about things should always be completed as if it is your WORST day.
 
I just heard that for DLA full mobility (which I have) the distance one can walk has changed.
They snuck that in.
All forms asking about things should always be completed as if it is your WORST day.

I mentioned somewhere earlier that there's mention it's been changed to 20 meters. There's going to be loads of people losing a huge chunk of money per week if that's the case
 
I mentioned somewhere earlier that there's mention it's been changed to 20 meters. There's going to be loads of people losing a huge chunk of money per week if that's the case
Yeah but you can get DLA if you have severe discomfort. If you get the severe discomfort before you even stand up to walk then that counts as well so your effective walking distance is 0 meters. :)
 
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