ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
Take a friend or relative with you. Firstly it will help with the anxiety. More importantly it seems that pretty much everyone who attends an assessment without a witness is declared fit to work.
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Take a friend or relative with you. Firstly it will help with the anxiety. More importantly it seems that pretty much everyone who attends an assessment without a witness is declared fit to work.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
hackedoff this next advice is going to sound odd but there is logic to it.
Don't get dressed up in a suit/nice outfit/ Be clean and presentable but don't make too much of an effort. There are several reports that making an effort with your appearance is being used against candidates as evidence that they are fit to work, even if making that effort ensures they will be spending the next week in bed recovering.
It is human nature that we want to present ourselves in a favourable light to those we meet for the first time, however it is clear that Atos take this as evidence of malingering even when getting to the assessment is a great personal cost to the claimant.
I would urge you again to consider requesting a home assessment.
Don't get dressed up in a suit/nice outfit/ Be clean and presentable but don't make too much of an effort. There are several reports that making an effort with your appearance is being used against candidates as evidence that they are fit to work, even if making that effort ensures they will be spending the next week in bed recovering.
It is human nature that we want to present ourselves in a favourable light to those we meet for the first time, however it is clear that Atos take this as evidence of malingering even when getting to the assessment is a great personal cost to the claimant.
I would urge you again to consider requesting a home assessment.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
It's quite an insult to people that to be clean and well-presented goes against you
equationgirl
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Isn't it just.It's quite an insult to people that to be clean and well-presented goes against you
kittyP
Pluviophile
Yep. Two letters have been apparently sent to us regarding our backdated HB and CTB and we have received neither.
Also another regarding HB that did arrive first class but it was 2 weeks after the date on the letter.
Sorry I know that is not directly ATOS related but thought it worth mentioning.
equationgirl
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Definitely worth mentioning kittyP, it's all part of the same problem.
The dick who did my assesment made a point of saying that the fact I was "well presented" was a contributory factor in my being awarded nul points.
I'd say wear your absolute worst clothes.
equationgirl
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What a wanker of an assessor. Glad you got your decision overturned mate.
kittyP
Pluviophile
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
HILARY MCVEY and the lies of the DAILY MAIL
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...HREE-MILLION-claiming-disability-benefit.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...HREE-MILLION-claiming-disability-benefit.html
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
HILARY MCVEY and the lies of the DAILY MAIL
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...HREE-MILLION-claiming-disability-benefit.html
To be fair, this is someone who has less medical knowledge than most disabled people, no medical qualifications whatsoever, will brainlessly spout the party line regardless and probably earns more per quarter than most disabled claimants get in a year. So it's no great surprise that she has the bedside manner of an Army medical officer ('You're still breathing so you're obviously fit'), a total unwillingness to engage with the facts unless the facts are convenient for whatever crap she's spouting this week (in other words, a typical politician) and possesses all the heavyweight intellectual gravitas of a boiled potato.
People do take that kinda bullshit in though.
And that article - "Just filling in a form and getting it (DLA) for life" - FFS, it should be illegal to allow lies such as that to float out unchallenged into the public consciousness.
True. A dreadful article on lots of levels.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Then there's this one as well
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...come-off-sickness-benefit-ahead-of-tests.html
Are you deliberately trying to raise my blood pressure by posting these articles
In a way Shapps has got a point about IB being used as a way to hide unemployment, but it was the Tories who started doing that in the late 80's/early 90's. And anyway, long term unemployment is debilitating to ones health, so it makes sense for someone who, realistically, is likely to be unemployed for a long time to go on the sick rather than claim JSA with all it's attendant bullshit. And it was conservative policies that made long term unemployment part of the landscape of most communities in the UK, so really it's a case of reaping what you've sown.
What's Calum's List please?
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wobbly
Are you deliberately trying to raise my blood pressure by posting these articles
In a way Shapps has got a point about IB being used as a way to hide unemployment, but it was the Tories who started doing that in the late 80's/early 90's. And anyway, long term unemployment is debilitating to ones health, so it makes sense for someone who, realistically, is likely to be unemployed for a long time to go on the sick rather than claim JSA with all it's attendant bullshit. And it was conservative policies that made long term unemployment part of the landscape of most communities in the UK, so really it's a case of reaping what you've sown.
are you reading my mind or something? cause the use of IB to massage unemployment was the first thing that came to my mind as well
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
I just thought it was a damn cheek of Shapps to accuse Labour of using IB to massage unemployment figures when all they were doing (as with much else) was carrying on a tradition started by his party.
equationgirl
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They didn't really choose though, did they? They chose NOT to put themselves through an extremely stressful experience despite knowing they would be financially much worse off. Hardly a choice when someone opts for being a lot poorer.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Yep, a friend of mine said she's absolutely no way going to an assessment. As far as she's concerned, all her doctors/consultants proof should be enough that she's not fit for work, and if they're going to ignore that evidence, she'd rather starve than go through dealing with ATOS
Which is what ATOS are hoping for - And if she dies during the interim then so much the better -That's the way the system's worked out now.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
If he were an MP, you can bet on it. You only need look at the snidery the media floated Brown and other bachelors' way in the '70s, '80s and '90s to realise that.
kittyP
Pluviophile
This is what my mum said to me.
She said that if all the ATOS business is all too much for me they will help us survive until Badgers is able to earn enough to cover things until I am better.
I would go down as a stat saying that I am off benefits and back to work when I wouldn't be.
Are their any stats for people that are in that position?
People that have had their benefits stopped/stopped claiming them but are not working (including JSA or not).
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
If only it were a "tough medical test", then more people would qualify. As it is, it's an arbitrary one-size-fits-all quasi-medical assessment of capability sometimes carried out by a doctor, but more often than not by a "healthcare professional" with little or no competence in disability/long-term ill-health.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
I bet there isn't
Exactly - And the only bit that corresponds with medical/social security law is the tribunal bit - By which time a lot of claimants have fallen by the wayside for one reason or another.
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