Athens Greece: Cops murder a 16 year old
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Same here, (took me a while to remember how).
thanks Stella and Dimitri for the reports.
thanks Stella and Dimitri for the reports.
SpookyFrank
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Of course it did. And Kennedy's head flew backwards because he heard the echo of the sound of the bullet before the bullet hit him. I always wondered what sort of idiot would believe an explanation dependant entirely on the fact that pulling a trigger temporarily renders the laws of physics null and void
Dimitris
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Bounced of a wall eh?? Well let me inform you on the latest news about all this.... Of course it is IRRELEVANT how Alexis was hit the point is that the police man FIRED with his gun at a teenager.. If you read the greek law it says (a free translation of only the essential articles):
* A police man is only allowed to shoot if his life is in danger. He must have used any other appropriate method to stop the attack and fail so he has no other alternative than fire. He MUST fire a WARNING SHOT first, before shooting against the attacker. When shooting at the attacker his aim should be to INJURE the attacker and not kill.
* Warning shots are shots that are fired in a way that do not injure anyone NOT EVEN ACCIDENTALLY
* Police officers ARE NOT ALLOWED to shoot at anyone who is under 18, except if their life is in danger and have no other alternative. Even in this case they should shoot ONLY warning shots.
So according to this law even if he shot at the air and the bullet hit at a lamp post and changed direction, as his lawyer said, the shot IS NOT a warning shot because he should see the lamp post and try to avoid it when shooting.
So because of this, the defence line of the cop has changed, he now says that he shot TWICE on the air as warning shots and when he was putting his gun back in position it fired accidentally for a THIRD time and that was the shot that hit Alexis. It hit him on the chest although the 3rd shot was low because Alexis had dunked and was not standing up, so his body was lower.
But... WHERE IS THE THIRD BULLET SHELL ??? ONLY 2 HAVE BEEN FOUND
Also.... the eye witnesses say that the cop fired TWICE and Alexis was killed with the SECOND SHOT .. This is why we only have 2 bullet shells and not 3.
The ballistic report is not published yet. The journalists say it is ready but for some reason they dont publish it yet. All this theory that the bullet was damaged and foreign material was found on the bullet come from "confidential sources" of the journalists.
One of these "leaks" from one "confidential source" was that on the bullet they have found asphalt (road material) .. This fits with the theory of the 3rd bullet a lot, as the gun should be pointing down while he was putting it back in position...
The problem with this theory??? ..... THERE IS NO ASPHALT THERE The alley that Alexis was shot is a PEDESTRIANS AREA...
The only REAL FACTS that we have up to now for this whole story is what the witnesses are saying... All the rest is media bullshit propaganda and we should be very critical of what they say.
* A police man is only allowed to shoot if his life is in danger. He must have used any other appropriate method to stop the attack and fail so he has no other alternative than fire. He MUST fire a WARNING SHOT first, before shooting against the attacker. When shooting at the attacker his aim should be to INJURE the attacker and not kill.
* Warning shots are shots that are fired in a way that do not injure anyone NOT EVEN ACCIDENTALLY
* Police officers ARE NOT ALLOWED to shoot at anyone who is under 18, except if their life is in danger and have no other alternative. Even in this case they should shoot ONLY warning shots.
So according to this law even if he shot at the air and the bullet hit at a lamp post and changed direction, as his lawyer said, the shot IS NOT a warning shot because he should see the lamp post and try to avoid it when shooting.
So because of this, the defence line of the cop has changed, he now says that he shot TWICE on the air as warning shots and when he was putting his gun back in position it fired accidentally for a THIRD time and that was the shot that hit Alexis. It hit him on the chest although the 3rd shot was low because Alexis had dunked and was not standing up, so his body was lower.
But... WHERE IS THE THIRD BULLET SHELL ??? ONLY 2 HAVE BEEN FOUND
Also.... the eye witnesses say that the cop fired TWICE and Alexis was killed with the SECOND SHOT .. This is why we only have 2 bullet shells and not 3.
The ballistic report is not published yet. The journalists say it is ready but for some reason they dont publish it yet. All this theory that the bullet was damaged and foreign material was found on the bullet come from "confidential sources" of the journalists.
One of these "leaks" from one "confidential source" was that on the bullet they have found asphalt (road material) .. This fits with the theory of the 3rd bullet a lot, as the gun should be pointing down while he was putting it back in position...
The problem with this theory??? ..... THERE IS NO ASPHALT THERE The alley that Alexis was shot is a PEDESTRIANS AREA...
The only REAL FACTS that we have up to now for this whole story is what the witnesses are saying... All the rest is media bullshit propaganda and we should be very critical of what they say.
Col_Buendia
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Derf's comments on this thread have been absolutely stomach-churning.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
What a charmer.
Fedayn
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Dimitris
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Let me update you about today's demo in Athens.
A pupil and student demo was organized for 12 o clock today, starting from Propylaia as usual. More than 10000 attended, the vast majority of them school kids and teenagers. It was again an angry demo, the school kids have been proven to be the BEST demonstrators during these days, focused and determined, they really seem that they are on the streets FOR A REASON. During the last 2 days, 25 police departments have been attacked all by school kids and teenagers. This is the best answer to the system and the media, who only talk about "vandals with covered faces" ... Well NO pupil had a covered face at all the demos.
The police was provocative from the very beggining of the demo. Chemicals were continiously thrown during the whole demo, as well as a lot of clashes with the police. They were hitting visiously and throwing chemicals, although we are talking about young school kids....
In Korai str they arrested and visiously hit a 13 years old girl.. A lot of journalists and reporters that were there they were filming them and shouting at them to stop hitting the girl.. The result was chemicals against the reporters and they started beating them... One journalist got badly hit. At a small alley near Panepistimiou str the RIOT police went in, in order to wait for the demo and hit it from the side. The people who were on that alley (the alley is full of cafes) starting shouting at the police to get out of there and a lot starting throwing at them glasses, chairs and stones. They threw chemicals against them but they had to run out of there as they were being attacked a lot. They turned to Panepistimiou str again where people of the public (even random pedestrians) were shouting at them and throwing them stones. Some of them tried to arrest a boy (about 15 years old) who was on the demo (not throwing stones) because he had his head covered (not face just head)..... The public managed to rescue the boy as they pulled him from them. Four pupils were arrested.
A lot of tension started also at Syntagma square, where a lot of chemicals were also thrown as well as stunt grenades. These grenades have been used a lot throughout the week.
Some comrades broke in the office of Mr Kougias, the lawyer of the cop, and trashed it completely. Kougias told the press that these actions are not going to hold him back from defending the cop.....
An another "happening" from todays events was this :
A petrol bomb was thrown against this cop outside the Law Department of the University of Athens as an answer to the "fuck you" gesture that he did a few seconds before, to the comrades that have taken over that building. The other cops around quickly put out the fire and the cop was not injured. This triggered violence around the area of the Law Department for quite enough time.
The demo finished when heavy rainfall started.
A "sit down" demonstration (if I am using this term correctly) was also taking place at Syntagma square. At the beggining the MAT (RIOT police) was there and were trying to create trouble with the demonstrators but it was a peacefull demo so they left. Normal police went to replace them, they stayed at that point for some time and when they realised that the guys were not "terrorists" they left. An another sit down demo has been organized for 10 o clock tonight but I dont know if it will happen because of the rain.
Also a bicycle demo is about to take place today, normally bicycle demos have a lot of crowd but today because of the rain I am not sure how many will be there.
NOTHING IS OVER YET.. WE ARE ONLY IN THE BEGINNING.
NO PEACE NO JUSTICE
A pupil and student demo was organized for 12 o clock today, starting from Propylaia as usual. More than 10000 attended, the vast majority of them school kids and teenagers. It was again an angry demo, the school kids have been proven to be the BEST demonstrators during these days, focused and determined, they really seem that they are on the streets FOR A REASON. During the last 2 days, 25 police departments have been attacked all by school kids and teenagers. This is the best answer to the system and the media, who only talk about "vandals with covered faces" ... Well NO pupil had a covered face at all the demos.
The police was provocative from the very beggining of the demo. Chemicals were continiously thrown during the whole demo, as well as a lot of clashes with the police. They were hitting visiously and throwing chemicals, although we are talking about young school kids....
In Korai str they arrested and visiously hit a 13 years old girl.. A lot of journalists and reporters that were there they were filming them and shouting at them to stop hitting the girl.. The result was chemicals against the reporters and they started beating them... One journalist got badly hit. At a small alley near Panepistimiou str the RIOT police went in, in order to wait for the demo and hit it from the side. The people who were on that alley (the alley is full of cafes) starting shouting at the police to get out of there and a lot starting throwing at them glasses, chairs and stones. They threw chemicals against them but they had to run out of there as they were being attacked a lot. They turned to Panepistimiou str again where people of the public (even random pedestrians) were shouting at them and throwing them stones. Some of them tried to arrest a boy (about 15 years old) who was on the demo (not throwing stones) because he had his head covered (not face just head)..... The public managed to rescue the boy as they pulled him from them. Four pupils were arrested.
A lot of tension started also at Syntagma square, where a lot of chemicals were also thrown as well as stunt grenades. These grenades have been used a lot throughout the week.
Some comrades broke in the office of Mr Kougias, the lawyer of the cop, and trashed it completely. Kougias told the press that these actions are not going to hold him back from defending the cop.....
An another "happening" from todays events was this :
A petrol bomb was thrown against this cop outside the Law Department of the University of Athens as an answer to the "fuck you" gesture that he did a few seconds before, to the comrades that have taken over that building. The other cops around quickly put out the fire and the cop was not injured. This triggered violence around the area of the Law Department for quite enough time.
The demo finished when heavy rainfall started.
A "sit down" demonstration (if I am using this term correctly) was also taking place at Syntagma square. At the beggining the MAT (RIOT police) was there and were trying to create trouble with the demonstrators but it was a peacefull demo so they left. Normal police went to replace them, they stayed at that point for some time and when they realised that the guys were not "terrorists" they left. An another sit down demo has been organized for 10 o clock tonight but I dont know if it will happen because of the rain.
Also a bicycle demo is about to take place today, normally bicycle demos have a lot of crowd but today because of the rain I am not sure how many will be there.
NOTHING IS OVER YET.. WE ARE ONLY IN THE BEGINNING.
NO PEACE NO JUSTICE
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Dimitris
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WE VIZITED YOUR PARLIAMENT
Other photos of today
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=942717
Other photos of today
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=942717
When people start talking about themselves in the third person it IS time to
visit a psychiatrist.
In Greek law, mentally ill people are not send to prisons but to special
institutions that can help them with their condition,
because they are beyond judgement on account of their condition you know,
therefore
instead of an appropriate reply to anyone with a brain ,
I'll give you this
at about 00.40 seconds there is something for you derf
Oh, and happy holidays at that planet of yours
visit a psychiatrist.
In Greek law, mentally ill people are not send to prisons but to special
institutions that can help them with their condition,
because they are beyond judgement on account of their condition you know,
therefore
instead of an appropriate reply to anyone with a brain ,
I'll give you this
at about 00.40 seconds there is something for you derf
Oh, and happy holidays at that planet of yours
live cameras from Athens
This is from Patision str in front of the Politechnic , which you can see on the right at about the middle of the image
(it doesn't work now, 10.51pm-Greek time)
http://mfile.akamai.com/61609/live/reflector:45051.asx?prop=e
This from Sintagma square in front of the Parliament
http://mfile.akamai.com/61609/live/reflector:50061.asx?prop=e
I don't know for how long but now the pages show live
This is from Patision str in front of the Politechnic , which you can see on the right at about the middle of the image
(it doesn't work now, 10.51pm-Greek time)
http://mfile.akamai.com/61609/live/reflector:45051.asx?prop=e
This from Sintagma square in front of the Parliament
http://mfile.akamai.com/61609/live/reflector:50061.asx?prop=e
I don't know for how long but now the pages show live
audiotech
wav, aiff, mp3, ogg, flac
Moscow.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3tnO0hZZIUA
An idiot who believes the riots were started by european "communists", "lefties" and "extreme liberals".
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2qt51Mt0Y38
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3tnO0hZZIUA
An idiot who believes the riots were started by european "communists", "lefties" and "extreme liberals".
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2qt51Mt0Y38
Radical leftists take over the tv station Super B in Patra. They went live at 21.37pm
About 100 students are participating in a sit down demo at Syndagma, in front of the monument to the unkown soldier, holding candles.(22.58 pm) See it live from the camera
http://mfile.akamai.com/61609/live/reflector:50061.asx?prop=e
About 100 students are participating in a sit down demo at Syndagma, in front of the monument to the unkown soldier, holding candles.(22.58 pm) See it live from the camera
http://mfile.akamai.com/61609/live/reflector:50061.asx?prop=e
Bristol Chris
Active Member
Police stations and vehicles attacked in Bristol:
Source: Bristol IndyMedia (reported Wednesday 10th December)
Source: IndyMedia uk (reported Thursday 11th December)
Source: Bristol IndyMedia (reported Wednesday 10th December)
Source: IndyMedia uk (reported Thursday 11th December)
About 100 students are participating in a sit down demo at Syndagma, in front of the monument of the unkown soldier, holding candles. See it live on this link
http://mfile.akamai.com/61609/live/reflector:50061.asx?prop=e
The group of bikers just joined them (11.17pm- Greek time)
Lovely disruption of traffic and not mayhem at all ( to poke at the economist's journalist)
11.25pm oh well, the Greeks in their cars couldn't participate more in this, they were in a hurry to go ... where I wonder, who's going to work on Friday night... anyway the feed shows again the sit down demo
The singing has started... (12.04am-Greek time)
http://mfile.akamai.com/61609/live/reflector:50061.asx?prop=e
The group of bikers just joined them (11.17pm- Greek time)
Lovely disruption of traffic and not mayhem at all ( to poke at the economist's journalist)
11.25pm oh well, the Greeks in their cars couldn't participate more in this, they were in a hurry to go ... where I wonder, who's going to work on Friday night... anyway the feed shows again the sit down demo
The singing has started... (12.04am-Greek time)
Bristol Chris
Active Member
albionism
A successful virus clinging to a speck of mud.
Also, on the video of the murder of Alexis, only two shots can be heard.
Has the court delivered that verdict yet or are you just happy to call them murderers without the right of a trial?
So much for free and fair.
So you see a rough video that could have been edited by anyone and hear two shots. You can't see shit all detail but that's enough to convict as they are pigs so must have done it.
Arson attacks carried out against banks at Kalamakiou Avenue,
just after 1.05 am(saturday). They threw flammable liquid at 4 banks
but also at offices of the local committee of New Democracy
(the ruling party).
They were the branches of Agrotiki Bank and General Bank
at 13 Kalamakiou ave, Citybank's branch at no 18 and
the branch of National Bank at Thoukididou str and Eponiton str.
There were great material damages caused by the fire
both at the branches and the offices.
5 fire trucks with 15 firemen were quickly at the scene
and after about an hour the fire was under control.
the Polytechnic university is still occupied by a small number of people from
radical left groups(5.00 am)
(from Zougla.gr's latest reports)
just after 1.05 am(saturday). They threw flammable liquid at 4 banks
but also at offices of the local committee of New Democracy
(the ruling party).
They were the branches of Agrotiki Bank and General Bank
at 13 Kalamakiou ave, Citybank's branch at no 18 and
the branch of National Bank at Thoukididou str and Eponiton str.
There were great material damages caused by the fire
both at the branches and the offices.
5 fire trucks with 15 firemen were quickly at the scene
and after about an hour the fire was under control.
the Polytechnic university is still occupied by a small number of people from
radical left groups(5.00 am)
(from Zougla.gr's latest reports)
Many thanks for all the updates here, this is very useful. Dimitris I've copied part of your posts into an article on libcom, I hope you don't mind.
http://libcom.org/library/greek-riots-eyewitness-reports-12-december-2008
http://libcom.org/library/greek-riots-eyewitness-reports-12-december-2008
Dimitris
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20/12/2008 - global resistance day against state murders
20/12/2008 - global resistance day against state murders
Today in the general assembly of the taken over Polytechnic building was decided to nominate, Saturday 20 of December 2008, as a european and global day of resistance to state murders, in the memory of all the youth, immigrants and activists that have been murdered by the state. In memory of Carlos Juliani, the dead youth in France, Alexis and many more from around the world. Our lifes do not belong at their states and their murderers! The memory of our murdered brothers, friends and comrades stays alive through our struggle ! We do not forget our brothers, we do not forgive their killers.
SPREAD THIS MESSAGE EVERYWHERE
Feel free to change it a bit if you like, translate it on ANY language and flood the net with it.
20/12/2008 - global resistance day against state murders
Today in the general assembly of the taken over Polytechnic building was decided to nominate, Saturday 20 of December 2008, as a european and global day of resistance to state murders, in the memory of all the youth, immigrants and activists that have been murdered by the state. In memory of Carlos Juliani, the dead youth in France, Alexis and many more from around the world. Our lifes do not belong at their states and their murderers! The memory of our murdered brothers, friends and comrades stays alive through our struggle ! We do not forget our brothers, we do not forgive their killers.
SPREAD THIS MESSAGE EVERYWHERE
Feel free to change it a bit if you like, translate it on ANY language and flood the net with it.
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
There is a new blog from the comrades of the taken over polytecnic building
http://katalipsipolytexneiou.blogspot.com/
They have also started broadcasting on the radio, you can listen to it here
http://147.102.219.129:8000/
http://katalipsipolytexneiou.blogspot.com/
They have also started broadcasting on the radio, you can listen to it here
http://147.102.219.129:8000/
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