Assange to face extradition

[Kesher]

So why haven't they interviewed him?

 

[butchersapron]

So why haven't they interviewed him?

I don't know. Maybe he refused and started playing games. Are you suggesting the agreement wasn't reached with Ecuador? As far as i can tell the swedes were fobbed off until a week ago by bureaucratic moves by the embassy and that sweden has set the wheels in motion for an interview to happen.

You people like RT don't you? Here's RT on it.

 

[danny la rouge]

So why haven't they interviewed him?

Because he doesn't want them to. Under Swedish law he can't be formally charged until he has been formally interviewed first. That's why he has been pursuing all his appeals.

 

[danny la rouge]

I don't know. Maybe he refused and started playing games. Are you suggesting the agreement wasn't reached with Ecuador? As far as i can tell the swedes were fobbed off until a week ago by bureaucratic moves by the embassy and that sweden has set the wheels in motion for an interview to happen.

You people like RT don't you? Here's RT on it.

The end of that article gives a clue as to what Assange might be waiting for:

"The more serious rape allegation only expires after 10 years, meaning it would be dropped in 2020."

Six years.

 

[butchersapron]

The end of that article gives a clue as to what Assange might be waiting for:

"The more serious rape allegation only expires after 10 years, meaning it would be dropped in 2020."

Six years.

I read, when the other two ran out of time, that they have an option to simply re-classify the rape allegation in 2020, effectively going back to day one. I can't find anything backing that up right now, but i def did read it.

 

[danny la rouge]

I read, when the other two ran out of time, that they have an option to simply re-classify the rape allegation in 2020, effectively going back to day one. I can't find anything backing that up right now, but i def did read it.

Oh ok.

 

[butchersapron]

Oh ok.

I agree that Assange is going to try and wait till 2020 if he has to btw

 

[Kesher]

I've just heard the vice-chairman of the UN working panel on RT: he believes that the UK and Sweden are just doing the U.S's bidding and that Assange would be extradited to the U.S from Sweden where he would likely spend most of his life in prison.

 

[butchersapron]

I've just heard the vice-chairman of the UN working panel on RT: he believes that the UK and Sweden are just doing the U.S's bidding and that Assange would be extradited to the U.S from Sweden where he would likely spend most of his life in prison.

Blimey.

 

[brogdale]

I've just heard the vice-chairman of the UN working panel on RT: he believes that the UK and Sweden are just doing the U.S's bidding and that Assange would be extradited to the U.S from Sweden where he would likely spend most of his life in prison.

"believes"?

 

[Kesher]

I'm paraphrasing

 

[brogdale]

I'm paraphrasing

Yeah fine, but there's a crucial difference between 'believes' and citing something as fact for the basiis of their finding. No?

 

[Spymaster]

Do you think hiding in a room for five years is a rational decision to those allegations?

Er, yes. Absolutely ......

 

[Spymaster]

The bastard's on the embassy balcony now, gobbing off as if he's "won".

"It's a historic decision that's legally binding" .... "the UK and Sweden have lost" ....

Someone should egg the cunt.

Come on Jules, step outside .....

 

[Spymaster]

He's getting heckled and says "can someone close that person up?"

 

[MAD-T-REX]

Because he doesn't want them to. Under Swedish law he can't be formally charged until he has been formally interviewed first. That's why he has been pursuing all his appeals.

Yup. Assange's strategy from day one has been to delay/avoid the interview as his indictment for rape will inevitably follow. He doesn't want the interview to happen, regardless of what he claims.

 

[danny la rouge]

Yup. Assange's strategy from day one has been to delay/avoid the interview as his indictment for rape will inevitably follow. He doesn't want the interview to happen, regardless of what he claims.

If he did...there's a police station a minute's walk away.

 

[Spymaster]

What's his team's schizzle about the Swedish prosecutor not getting stuff done in a timely fashion/being incompetent?

 

[butchersapron]

It's chaff.

 

[Spymaster]

Clearly, but what are they trying to hang that hat on?

 

[brogdale]

'Interesting' timing from the Danish justice minister to reveal their government's complicity in US plans to extradite Snowden.

 

[Sirena]

 

[butchersapron]

Blimey.

 

[butchersapron]

Clearly, but what are they trying to hang that hat on?

Nothing really. The original negotiations was to do with a may 2015 request to interview him. The swedes thought that would carry over - but no - have been told to put in new request post-agreement. Done.

 

[danny la rouge]

Yes, banner waving men, that's what this is about.

What's your opinion on victims of rape being labelled honey trapping liars? How long do you think consenting to sex lasts for? Do you have to be awake when the man takes you up on that once given consent? How many rape allegation fugitives do you idolise?

Fucking morons.

 

[danny la rouge]

The parallels with the Tommy Sheridan debacle are depressing. The hero-worshipping beatification, the misogyny, the disregard for victims, the feeling that their hero is above the usual standards of decency. And the stupid polarising mentality that says if you think he should answer the charges, then you're "a neocon liar" (seen today on Twitter).

Just because someone once did something you admired doesn't mean they didn't also do something appalling. Welcome to messy reality, kids. Maybe the Lone Ranger was a racist.

 

[danny la rouge]

How did the UN get it so wrong on Julian Assange?| Joshua Rozenberg

"Of course, he knew he would be arrested for breach of his bail conditions. Of course, he knew he would face extradition to Sweden. Of course, he knew that he might face extradition to the United States once proceedings in Sweden were at an end. But that does not mean he was detained, and still less that his detention was of an arbitrary character. How, then, did the majority of the working party get it so wrong?"

 

[danny la rouge]

Nice taking apart of the UN working group's opinion:

The UN working group’s Assange opinion

 

[danny la rouge]

This from 2012 is also good (though out of date on the point about Assange being interviewed in London):

The legal mythology of the extradition of Julian Assange

"Then there is the rational explanation. In view of the significant protections he would have against onward extradition to the United States from Sweden, it would appear that the only rational (as opposed to subjective) explanation for his refusal is not that he is seeking to avoid any onwards extradition; it is that he simply wants to avoid interrogation and any prosecution for allegations of sexual assault and rape in Sweden."

 

[butchersapron]

Nice taking apart of the UN working group's opinion:

The UN working group’s Assange opinion

Nothing left after that. Do read people.