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Army to review female close combat roles

The f104 wasnt a bad fair weather interceptor.
Just a lousy all weather low level strike plane made worse by pilots training in texas nice weather lack of hills
Coming back to germany hills bad weather lockheed martin paid massived bribes to flogg it to the germans.
The germans could have brought thr british lighting which wouldnt have been much better in the role but at least had a ejector seat that went up:facepalm:

Imagine if that was a product of Mig or Sukhoi, we'd never hear the end of it.
 
No we wouldnt soviets were utterly paranoid about any info about anything.
The russians kept any panther tank they captured working as long as possible
Even going as far as too translate the manuals.
 
They're quite handy, actually, what with the usual pair of .50s, and pair of 7.62s, and the grenade launchers and the armour. Very effective tool for clearing the enemy from the streets, and handy for demos on the housing where the pesky enemy are hiding, too!
And yes, tanks are more easily-destroyed in an urban environment, but only if the enemy has suitable materiel for tank-busting.

In Budapest in '56, they dealt with snipers by just blowing away the ground floors of the buildings they were shooting from.
 
So what. Women can be just as effective as men in all that kind of thing. Is that it? Or fucking what?

I always thought that war was held up as the greatest folly of the male brain: overgrown boys engaged in a supercharged testosterone contest to the death. Overgrown boys carrying steel phallic symbols, trying to out-dick each other. A stupid and wasteful male answer to problem-solving.

So.... let's get women in. :)
 
There was a former senior military man on the radio saying he thought it was a point of principle that women should not serve in infantry units. He went on about carrying heavy loads and then having to close with and kill the enemy with bayonets and then said it was a principle that women should not do such roles.

He never specified what that principle was though. Wish I could remember who it was.
 
...Wish I could remember who it was.

the Very Rev. Dannat has been on the TV - perhaps it just shows how out of touch some very senior Officers are with modern combat operations: when he was head of the Army, female soldiers were using bayonets on the Taleban, and female Apache and fast jet pilots were putting 30mm explosive rounds into individual Taleban and dropping 500lb bombs in them - somewhat disapointing that he didn't notice...
 
the Very Rev. Dannat has been on the TV - perhaps it just shows how out of touch some very senior Officers are with modern combat operations: when he was head of the Army, female soldiers were using bayonets on the Taleban, and female Apache and fast jet pilots were putting 30mm explosive rounds into individual Taleban and dropping 500lb bombs in them - somewhat disapointing that he didn't notice...
Yes, could well have been him!
 
Something appears wrong with my Internets. I typed Urban 75 into the search bar but appear to have been directed to a thread in ARSE....

(Even down to an informed debate on FIBUA getting side tracked in to comments about nuns in suspenders.)
 
having been raised by a pair of two-stripe to nothing cunts I can confirm that it is probably not a good thing to have a woman on the sharp end. Mainly because I don't like the idea. They say dying men call for mum, medic and mates. Thats really shit isn't it? we are on the verge of quantum computation and the possibility of real immortality yet we send young folk out to end up cradling their lower intestine and shouting for mummy while looking so very shocked because IT WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN TO ME.

if equality means you have to eat the same shit as a worker with a penis then fuck equality. One out, all out.
 
DotCommunist I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean it stinks for blokes to do this so women should not do it even given the opportunity? What about if some do want to do it?
 
In Budapest in '56, they dealt with snipers by just blowing away the ground floors of the buildings they were shooting from.

Allegedly a soviet tank officers view of the various german villagers between them and the rhine that baor had various plans to turn into hardpoints.
"Mmm they are only kilotons apart:eek:"
 
I think it's a terrible idea for women to be in the infantry itself or in tank crews. The physical closeness of those groups is not conducive to well disciplined mixed groups. Women can handle similar loads to infantrymen, in fact the medics normally carry more weight. I would also suggest that stories of women soldiers closing with the Taliban and engaging in CQB with bayonets is a load of balls. Women medics in patrols can accompany the patrols but can only engage the enemy to protect themselve or their patients. It's a little detail called the Law ofArmed Conflict, part of which is concerned with the protection and actions of medics. There are plenty of roles in the Armed Forces that men and women can and do serve equally, the infantry and the tanks just aren't areas that lend themselves to those roles.
 
DotCommunist I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean it stinks for blokes to do this so women should not do it even given the opportunity? What about if some do want to do it?

I think one of the things he is saying is that the fantasy of war and strong men and women being as good as/strong as/ capabale as men is just that, that the reality of war and the terror of imminent death is that both men and women become children again.
 
Army to review female close combat roles
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27331365

Female soldiers give views on close combat question
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27335442

My view is the more the merrier, as long as I don't have to serve in a front line unit myself I don't really mind who else does! If someone passes the required tests they should be able to do it!

Would not wish the armed forces on anyone....people deserve better than killing, being killed or being physically and psychologically damaged in wars drempt up by fuckers like Blair and co.
 
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