Shippou-Sensei
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I may be domestically extreame but nothing in my life is that active
Are you under surveillance? Police monitor 9000 activists
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Fez909
toilet expert
Kidda - my mistake. it's not new, but i read it the other night for the first time
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/apr/11/domestic-extremist-police-databases#B fwiw..
The problem with that is
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/25/david-davis-spy-agencies-law said:
Fez909
toilet expert
See tufty's post, which I quoted three posts above you.
Buckaroo
Donkey piss and tractors
There are files and there are other files and if they don't want you to know what they know they won't tell you.
I think you might be able to access some of the information stored about you by the police via the 'Data Protection Act 1998', as for intelligence agencies I am sure they're exempt from the act. Here is a link to the legislation :
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/29/contents
Just found this link about submitting requests to organisations that hold data on you.
http://www.ico.org.uk/for_the_public/personal_information
It is worth the read.
http://www.ico.org.uk/for_the_public/personal_information
It is worth the read.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I told this story on U75 once before but perhaps it suits this thread.
I was out one Sunday photographing around the local place and not thinking anything of it I stopped near an army base where I walked around a bit taking photos of the trees mainly.
Monday morning there was a knock on my door and two police detectives in plain clothes were there, they asked me if I had been near xyz army base, I said possibly, they asked if I had been taking photographs I said probably, they asked if they could see the photographs, I said I don't see why not, so I had them in the house, and showed them the images from that session. They seemed satisfied and duly left.
Big Brother is watching
I was out one Sunday photographing around the local place and not thinking anything of it I stopped near an army base where I walked around a bit taking photos of the trees mainly.
Monday morning there was a knock on my door and two police detectives in plain clothes were there, they asked me if I had been near xyz army base, I said possibly, they asked if I had been taking photographs I said probably, they asked if they could see the photographs, I said I don't see why not, so I had them in the house, and showed them the images from that session. They seemed satisfied and duly left.
Big Brother is watching
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I told this story on U75 once before but perhaps it suits this thread.
I was out one Sunday photographing around the local place and not thinking anything of it I stopped near an army base where I walked around a bit taking photos of the trees mainly.
Monday morning there was a knock on my door and two police detectives in plain clothes were there, they asked me if I had been near xyz army base, I said possibly, they asked if I had been taking photographs I said probably, they asked if they could see the photographs, I said I don't see why not, so I had them in the house, and showed them the images from that session. They seemed satisfied and duly left.
Big Brother is watching
I should ask to see a warrant next time if I were you. I'm not saying there was anything illegal in your house but as a matter of general principle like.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
and phone the local constabulary to see whether they are in fact police acting on orders
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Thora
Differently Ethical
I wouldn't want to send them all my address, ID, photo etc - if they haven't been watching you they would after that, surely!Kidda - my mistake. it's not new, but i read it the other night for the first time
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/apr/11/domestic-extremist-police-databases#B fwiw..
weltweit
Well-Known Member
Actually there was a slightly embarrassing image on my computer, a lets call it an exotic studio shot (just adult stuff) and I was slightly wrong-footed because they saw it before I could close the window.
Well I did have a thought, gosh lucky I don't smoke hash anymore! but do you think I really should have asked for a warrant? At the time I just thought it easier to show them the photographs.
Would you do that Pickman's? honestly?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yes. wouldn't you or would you simply let a couple of clowns in some uniform bowl about your house?
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I am afraid I am rather used to the police pretty much doing whatever they want despite my wishes, it was the police that forcibly took me away when I was ill, twice. Added to that I don't really know my rights.
comrade spurski
Well-Known Member
was taking photos on the banks of the thames one summers evening around 5 years ago with a mate...was on the beach near the london eye photographing the scenery from a different angle. Noticed a helicopter above us for 20 mins or so but assumed it was a tourist thing until 6 police and 7 or 8 pretend police called us up and demanded to know what we were doing and stated that we were being stopped and questioned under the anti terrorism act. One of the old bill then spoke to someone on his radio and looked up to the helicopter than then left. I kind of raised an eyebrow and he said they'd been watching as as we'd been acting suspiciously...I asked how and they said by taking photos of london landmarks like bridges!
The funny thing was that one of the old bill looked at my photos and started to compliment us on them and then started to give us tips and explained that he was a keen photographer. Was a very surreal evening
The funny thing was that one of the old bill looked at my photos and started to compliment us on them and then started to give us tips and explained that he was a keen photographer. Was a very surreal evening
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
next time you are unwell try the nhs, who provide a more humane service.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
At this very moment I am trying to get to see my GP, the earliest I can get an appointment is two weeks away! About as much use as a chocolate teapot!
weltweit
aye. if it happens again, try get yourself to a place of safety that isn't a a police station (so a&e, pretty much).
aslo useful bit of information: if the police are trying to pick you up for being 'unwell', they can (in theory) only get your from your home/private property with a warrant - according to 'how it's supposed to work', they need a section 135 + a warrant if you're on private property. they can use ection 136 and no warrant required if you're in a public place.
in theory
fwiw, i knew my rights. but they told me i didn't have any, and then dragged me down my stairs/out the house in handcuffs (i didn't want to have them in my home, or to go with them, because i didn't trust them).
/offtopic
gggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
aye. get yourself to a place of safety that isn't a a police station (so a&e, pretty much).
aslo useful bit of information: if the police are trying to pick you up for being 'unwell', they can (in theory) only get your from your home/private property with a warrant - according to 'how it's supposed to work', they need a section 135 + a warrant if you're on private property. they can use ection 136 and no warrant required if you're in a public place.
in theory
Theory is all very well, I was on my property when they arrested me and two or three of them searched the house without any kind of warrant that I could see, the front door was already open.
The second time four of them carried me out shoulder high!
I don't regret, I needed help at the time although I didn't know it.
glad to hear you' were/are ok, weltweit.
so yeah. he got hold of a uniform (no questions asked, taps nose etc*), and then "raided" her house at stupid AM while she was asleep. daft fucker didn't realised that she might actually take it seriously..
((northern hippies and their fetishes))
*i haven't actually sat and thought about that bit before. time to get me 'hmm'face out.
a friend of a friend of a friend etc etc . had a partner who had a bit of a uniform thing, and a bit of a wrongheaded fantasyhotness for policemen. so he decided to make her fantasies come true.
so yeah. he got hold of a uniform (no questions asked, taps nose etc*), and then "raided" her house at stupid AM while she was asleep. daft fucker didn't realised that she might actually take it seriously..
((northern hippies and their fetishes))
*i haven't actually sat and thought about that bit before. time to get me 'hmm'face out.
exiledinwales
Member
A few years ago at the Anarchist bookfair in London I got stopped by two undercovers outside just driving out in their unmarked car. They flashed some pic of someone they were apparently after (sounded like made up bollocks, why would they not be in uniform, happens to coincide with 'radical' bookfair etc). Anyway, started trying to get intel on me but I refused to give them anything but the bare minimum. They had already 10-20 names of people written down. They pretended to do a check on me with a radio, it was all nonsense. Just standard/routine intimidation or something at these kinds of events I suppose. What was interesting though was that they specifically mentioned not to worry cos there is no database or anything that you're going on. It was bizarre at the time cos it came from nowhere. I immediately thought well if that was the case why would you say that? Well now it turns out there is a database, shock horror. And we're probably not being told the half of it.
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