Are You "Anyone But England"?

[Fedayn]

Used to be, can't be arsed any more, more likely to be mildly but not really supportive especially on social media to wind up mates here in Glasgow/Scotland/Beyond

 

[ska invita]

I think there has always been a patriotic/nationalist type progressive trend in the working class that is also compatable with internationalism. Wouldn't necessarily recomend the content but things like the British Road to Socialism?

you mean this CPGB: The British Road to Socialism (1951) ?
its an interesting topic, deserves a thread - ive only got some half baked things to say, would be interested to hear thoughts of those who have already given this their time

 

[The39thStep]

you mean this CPGB: The British Road to Socialism (1951) ?
its an interesting topic, deserves a thread - ive only got some half baked things to say, would be interested to hear thoughts of those who have already given this their time

Yes. I notice over here in Portugal that the left is far more 'patriotic '/proud of Portugal. Might be either that they went through a revolution or that the revolution came out of of dictatorship which was nationalist or might not have anything to do with that. I havent given the subject too much time and probably worth trying to gather some thoughts on this. Anyway I'm off to do some shopping before they close for lunch.

 

[butchersapron]

The british road to moscow.

 

[Pickman's model]

Well I am English (by birth anyway) and I don't support them at all (unless they're playing USA).

I'm proudly ABE, and from some of the reactions in this thread appears to generate a fair amount of petty bitterness from England supporters.
I'm not bitter at all, I just have a personal preference for England opponents in cricket and football in particular. As the previous poster indicated, it's just like how Tottenham fans will support anyone but Arsenal, even if Arsenal were the only English team in the Champions League.

Fans loyalties are weird like that.

I wouldn't support any English team but arsenal in the champions league or other international competition and find it frankly weird that other people will support a team in Europe solely on the basis that they are an English side.

 

[The39thStep]

The british road to moscow.

Follow the yellow brick road we used to call it . On a serious note it was the Trots who started all this all immigration controls are racist , revolutionary defeatism support enemies enemies stuff .

 

[The39thStep]

I wouldn't support any English team but arsenal in the champions league or other international competition and find it frankly weird that other people will support a team in Europe solely on the basis that they are an English side.

Arsenal aren't an English team in my book they just happen to qualify for the Europa league in England

 

[belboid]

Follow the yellow brick road we used to call it . On a serious note it was the Trots who started all this all immigration controls are racist , revolutionary defeatism support enemies enemies stuff .

Not that serious a note. The Aliens Act of 1905 was opposed when no one had even heard of Trotsky

 

[The39thStep]

Not that serious a note. The Aliens Act of 1905 was opposed when no one had even heard of Trotsky

Didn't know that. Who led the opposition? Was that the first immigration control passed by a British parliament ?

 

[Pickman's model]

Follow the yellow brick road we used to call it . On a serious note it was the Trots who started all this all immigration controls are racist , revolutionary defeatism support enemies enemies stuff .

Not up to your usual standard

 

[Shechemite]

IT’S COMING HOME!

 

[krtek a houby]

What To Do In The Event Of England Winning The World Cup

 

[ddraig]

If you aren't English, don't support them. Fair enough.

ABE, though, makes you seem petty and bitter.

bitter about what?
petty in your opinion of course

 

[Pickman's model]

IT’S COMING HOME!

It has lived alone for so long tho

 

[The39thStep]

Need to do some research on what the lefts position was in the 1966 tournamant when we one the world cup.

 

[Pickman's model]

Need to do some research on what the lefts position was in the 1966 tournamant when we one the world cup.

I do hope you enjoy your afternoon but am surprised by your football priorities today

 

[belboid]

Didn't know that. Who led the opposition? Was that the first immigration control passed by a British parliament ?

definitely the first immigratin control in the uk, opposed the the Social-Democratic Federation & the ILP, as well s the likse of the Manchester Guardian.

 

[billbond]

i was in a local public house in London to watch the Liverpool -Madrid final.
Many Liverpool fans were in attendance but i would say 80% of the people watching were cheering for Madrid.
There was much joy after the game.
I think a lot of it has to do with social media when folk see the comments etc.
Ive heard a few times on phones ins Liverpool scouse fans even say they dont consider themselves to be
English !!?

 

[The39thStep]

I do hope you enjoy your afternoon but am surprised by your football priorities today

actually I've had a couple of bottles of beer since I tweeted that so that bit of research is postponed

 

[billbond]

I wouldn't support any English team but arsenal in the champions league or other international competition and find it frankly weird that other people will support a team in Europe solely on the basis that they are an English side.

I bet when you was a kid you did thou like many of us
Am i right or wrong ?

 

[Pickman's model]

I bet when you was a kid you did thou like many of us
Am i right or wrong ?

Wrong, I have never thoued. Or theed.

 

[billbond]

Well I do hope you're right, however England are the better team and should win on paper. Hopefully the Swedes will do an Iceland.

I agree with you about Southgate, he does appear to be a reasonable chap, however the fickle nature of reporters and fans might not have been so complimentary if the disgraceful Columbia had won the penalty shoot out.

Very strange man

 

[billbond]

Wrong, I have never thoued. Or theed.

ok i take it back i was wrong.
Unusual thou, now i am on your path, i think its the media and phone ins that has swung me.
I do thou like Arsenals style of football and wanted them to win more under Wenger, i was slagged off for saying this , but that is the style of football i like.

 

[isvicthere?]

bitter about what?
petty in your opinion of course

Everything I say is my opinion. The very least I demand of my opinion is that it's mine.

 

[ddraig]

Everything I say is my opinion. The very least I demand of my opinion is that it's mine.

Of course
bitter about what?

 

[Spymaster]

bitter about what?

You know what!

 

[ddraig]

You know what!

nope! come on now boys, don't be shy
sure vic or spy can spell it out!

 

[Spymaster]

nope! come on now boys, don't be shy
sure vic or spy can spell it out!

You're bitter because you're a bell end

 

[ddraig]

You're bitter because you're a bell end

nicely back to the insults then??

that's not what vic meant tho is it
it would be good if people could back up their accusations

 

[existentialist]

bitter about what?
petty in your opinion of course

Not just his, though, TBF.

it would be good if people could back up their accusations

Yes, wouldn't it?