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All NHS bills are bad news
Are we really going to sit by while they destroy the NHS?
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All NHS bills are bad news
Curiouscarl
Active Member
Yes.
They'll do it and get away without any real fuss.
The British government rely on their citizens docility.
They'll do it and get away without any real fuss.
The British government rely on their citizens docility.
not-bono-ever
meh
fuck them and fuck the patsys that support them
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
Of course, Those supports are not likely to need publicly funded facilities as they can afford the private sector ...
and s*d the rest of us.
The median Tory voter is actually often poorer and less likely to work than a Labour voter (the Tories win the unemployed vote, for example, while Labour always enjoys an easy majority among the working population). One would therefore assume Tory voters are either just dumber (and studies do show they have lower IQs) and/or more ignorant and gullible/misinformed/misanthropic/antisocial [pick your prejudice, I guess] for the most part.
StoneRoad
heckling from the back!
These days, I live in a constituency that would vote in a donkey if it wore a blue rosette.
It is pretty rural & right wing. In some areas, more sheep than people !
Not to mention how well-to-do most of the people are in comparison to the national average. The majority are house-owners, have multiple cars, sprogs go away to private schools, pre-plague expensive holidays & sports, "ladies who lunch".
There are pockets in most of the market towns with people at the other end of the spectrum. Mostly renting and working for a living, but barely getting by [with a food bank] ...
[I have lived in areas with other political & social aspirations ... ]
It is pretty rural & right wing. In some areas, more sheep than people !
Not to mention how well-to-do most of the people are in comparison to the national average. The majority are house-owners, have multiple cars, sprogs go away to private schools, pre-plague expensive holidays & sports, "ladies who lunch".
There are pockets in most of the market towns with people at the other end of the spectrum. Mostly renting and working for a living, but barely getting by [with a food bank] ...
[I have lived in areas with other political & social aspirations ... ]
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I live in a constituency that did exactly this. It wasn’t the well-to-do types voting Tory, either. It was quite the opposite that swung it.
Unless you are counting retired as unemployed, I find that hard to believe.
Unemployed working age adults. Indeed, it seems crazy, but the fact anyone who isn't a billionaire votes Tory anyway is proof Turkeys regularly vote for Christmas, so it shouldn't be that surprising.
Edit: I'll try and find y'all said juicy stats for the 2019 election later on.
Struggling to find statistics for 2019, but in 2017, 28% of unemployed voters voted Tory, compared to 54% Labour.
Majority of every worker group support Labour except the retired, poll finds
Majority of those in work, unemployed or in education back Labour over the Tories, survey reveals
www.independent.co.uk
I can't find anything on 2019 but I find it unlikely that it was such a dramatic swing in only 2 years.
Struggling to find statistics for 2019, but in 2017, 28% of unemployed voters voted Tory, compared to 54% Labour.
Majority of every worker group support Labour except the retired, poll finds
Majority of those in work, unemployed or in education back Labour over the Tories, survey reveals
I can't find anything on 2019 but I find it unlikely that it was such a dramatic swing in only 2 years.
Yeah you're probably right. My brain has a tendency to collect unusual/random facts and that was one of them that had stuck from 2019, but I can't find any current source for it now and YouGov gives it 32% to 46% for 2019. Brain fart I guess.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Unsurprisingly it got voted through due to the vermin's majority so it's down to the lords next.
Such a shite state of affairs when our last line of defence is this bunch of old establishment duffers.
Rubs salt into the wound when you consider that they often succeed in protecting the populace from the elected representatives.
All so weird.
ska invita
back on the other side
Lords is an irrelevance - its no line of defence.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Very urbans. +4 points
Plenty of times when I used to be in Amnesty where the Lords quashed some dodgy bills. But hardly an irrelevance given their position.
Would have to dig for examples. They chucked out the appeal on fox hunting but that was ages ago tbf.
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Humberto
Relax
My understanding is that they can return the Bill, to the Commons and after several times (used to be three?) they are bound to ratify it.
Dentistry is de facto private round here, you cannot get in anywhere for love or money, people are advised to go to A and E where you can access painkillers and antibiotics in extreme cases. I am still registered at my old dentists. Saw a dentist yesterday advertising a private check up for £30.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Aye, same here if you're a new patient.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i had to book a check up some months back (nhs) - booked in may for august
Curiouscarl
Active Member
Javid tells NHS England to give private hospitals up to £270m in case of Omicron surge
Independent healthcare sector accused of ‘acting as a parasite’ after ‘minimum income guarantee’ deal
Hospital crisis being brutally amplified by systematic Tory failings and mismanagement of the pandemic:
www.itv.com
How crowded NHS hospitals are keeping patients in need of operations out | ITV News
There are 200 patients at the Royal Bournemouth Hospital who don't need to be there - but they have nowhere to go. | ITV National News
www.itv.com
not a trot
Well-Known Member
Wifes elderly aunt was in that position.She's a lifelong Tory voter and believes she would have been treated better if she was an illegal immigrant. Her words, so fuck her.Hospital crisis being brutally amplified by systematic Tory failings and mismanagement of the pandemic:
How crowded NHS hospitals are keeping patients in need of operations out | ITV News
There are 200 patients at the Royal Bournemouth Hospital who don't need to be there - but they have nowhere to go. | ITV National News
Yeah I've encountered a huge number of people with similarly delusional, self-defeating views and perceptions. It's why conservative parties the world over are able to win elections despite really only representing the interests of a handful of billionaires.
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