Anti fascist call outs, activities etc

[Nigel]

So all in all what's the reckoning on UAF/SUTR performance and tactics at the weekend ?
They refused to be stuck away from any action in Embankment !
I'm not trying to get online discussion of tactics as that could be counterproductive just personal perspective on issue without too much disclosure !

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Were UaF not part of the original picket (?) by Waterstones? If not then they should have been there but then my critique is about getting ourselves kettled.
Drop the masks and flags, blend in with the tourists. In nearby bars or museums or whatever. Then appear en-masse at the right moment.
Easier said than done I know but there were quite a lot of antifascists on the periphery that were free to move about as they weren't dressed in demo chic.
Unfortunately the picket that the police successfully beat along Whitehall formed the centre of gravity that everyone followed. I think there was like twenty of us max when the fash march appeared and we still weren't clocked as Antifa.
The irony of the disguise. It indicates who you are.

 

[Nigel]

Were UaF not part of the original picket (?) by Waterstones? If not then they should have been there but then my critique is about getting ourselves kettled.
Drop the masks and flags, blend in with the tourists. In nearby bars or museums or whatever. Then appear en-masse at the right moment.
Easier said than done I know but there were quite a lot of antifascists on the periphery that were free to move about as they weren't dressed in demo chic.
Unfortunately the picket that the police successfully beat along Whitehall formed the centre of gravity that everyone followed. I think there was like twenty of us max when the fash march appeared and we still weren't clocked as Antifa.
The irony of the disguise. It indicates who you are.

Yeah think so they were on the other side of road near Trafalgar Square when it looked like they were being kettled !
Sympathetic to what your saying on our part !
There were so many plod there it would have been extremely difficult for a successful outcome I think !

 

[Red Sky]

Yeah think so they were on the other side of road near Trafalgar Square when it looked like they were being kettled !
Sympathetic to what your saying on our part !
There were so many plod there it would have been extremely difficult for a successful outcome I think !

It's difficult to say what a successful outcome would be in central London. Both sides outnumbered by the police.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

It's difficult to say what a successful outcome would be in central London. Both sides outnumbered by the police.

I agree with this. It's almost a pointless exercise. But needs must.

 

[Red Sky]

I agree with this. It's almost a pointless exercise. But needs must.

Not arguing against mobilising it's always worth doing that. The trouble is that no one knew how big a "bounce" the far right would get. If there had been a couple of thousand of them then gathering in small groups waiting for the moment might have ended up a very bad idea.

 

[TopCat]

Not arguing against mobilising it's always worth doing that. The trouble is that no one knew how big a "bounce" the far right would get. If there had been a couple of thousand of them then gathering in small groups waiting for the moment might have ended up a very bad idea.

I have to agree with this. I thought they could get 1500 or so and even if we were in one big group we would have been vulnerable.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Fair point. It's easier to critique in hindsight rather than foresight.
Although,
If you're not dressed in demo chic and the far right did have a bounce I'm not sure how antifascists would be at risk by blending in with tourists. The point I'm making pertains to the tactics of the state rather than fash numbers.

 

[TopCat]

Fair point. It's easier to critique in hindsight rather than foresight.
Although,
If you're not dressed in demo chic and the far right did have a bounce I'm not sure how antifascists would be at risk by blending in with tourists. The point I'm making pertains to the tactics of the state rather than fash numbers.

I pretty much agree with you.

 

[Red Sky]

Physical Resistance festival


Anti-fascist cultural event happening in Brighton this weekend.

Cracking day yesterday by all accounts.

Good bouts, excellent atmosphere.

Football today.

 

[malatesta32]

A tribute to Saffiyah Khan
https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/…/04/11/anti-fascist-hero/

 

[Red Sky]

A tribute to Saffiyah Khan
https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/…/04/11/anti-fascist-hero/

"whiff of the prison yard" ? What's that smell like then?

 

[DaveCinzano]

What A Difference A Fortnight Makes, etc.

However, we are not the kind of people to draw comparisons between mucky sports socks and the lady Infidels despite the fact that they’re both baggy, smelly and take as much spunk as you can throw at them! No! Absolutely not cos that’s just rude! We would merely suggest that, whilst awaiting the return of their incarcerated beaus, female fascists prune their ‘Lady Flowers’ which are no doubt sprouting like Chris Bonnington’s beard down the sides of their odiferous leggings – to paraphrase Milton’s Paradise Lost.

In a casual acceptance of misogynist violence he also claims she was ‘lucky’ she still had her teeth which sounds like bullying women to me – and just the thing the EDL were protesting against on Saturday.

Crossland described Saffiyah as ‘dirty’ and unwashed’ which is enormously ironic given his inability to shave properly and who has a strong whiff of the prison yard about him.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I'm guessing we're not the target audience.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I'm guessing we're not the target audience.

Who is, then?

 

[Pickman's model]

A tribute to Saffiyah Khan
https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/…/04/11/anti-fascist-hero/

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Who is, then?

The fash.

 

[DaveCinzano]

The fash.

Ah, a cunning ploy to seem as dickish as possible. My mind cannot even conceive of the tactical edge that this might be designed to draw, so it must be fiendishly clever.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Ah, a cunning ploy to seem as dickish as possible. My mind cannot even conceive of the tactical edge that this might be designed to draw, so it must be fiendishly clever.

Me neither. But I'm guessing it's to wind them up and we're just, err, inconvenient critics?

 

[malatesta32]

"whiff of the prison yard" ? What's that smell like then?

porridge. and old trainers.

 

[malatesta32]

What A Difference A Fortnight Makes, etc.

just keeping you on your toes, luvvy!

 

[Red Sky]

porridge. and old trainers.

Good one.

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

Good one.

It's an ancient pop culture reference: "They smelt of pubs, and Wormwood Scrubs, and too many right wing meetings" The Jam/Paul Weller, Down In The Tubestation At Midnight.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

just keeping you on your toes, luvvy!

You think that misogynist shit is OK, then?

 

[albionism]

On the off chance that there's anyone
from Melbourne on these boards.

 

[albionism]

On the off-chance there's anyone from the Brisbane
area on these boards, get yourself down to this!

 

[Anudder Oik]

A spanish fascist and his chums intend to go hunting Catalans in Camden town tonite, according to this tweet that just appeared in a local catalan newspaper. They intend to do a route and smash windows where they see independentist flags, then have some beers.

Here's the tweet where he makes it an open invite.

'Españoles en Londres', un grupo de Facebook que invita a «cazar independentistas»

 

[Anudder Oik]

It would seem it was yesterday and the police were warned.

 

[Pickman's model]

A spanish fascist and his chums intend to go hunting Catalans in Camden town tonite, according to this tweet that just appeared in a local catalan newspaper. They intend to do a route and smash windows where they see independentist flags, then have some beers.

Here's the tweet where he makes it an open invite.

'Españoles en Londres', un grupo de Facebook que invita a «cazar independentistas»

Yeh. It helps if callouts are for events in the future and not the past

 

[Anudder Oik]

Yeh. It helps if callouts are for events in the future and not the past

You are right, however, this bit of news just went up half an hour ago in a local newspaper here, so I thought it was tonite. Tomorrow in Barcelona there will be a rally of thousands of anti-catalan protestors waving spanish flags and celebrating the violence dished out by the police during the referendum. Today, in the city where I live, they were out in force, at least 3000 knuckle draggers, chanting "viva la guardia civil". They are mobilizing everywhere now as a reaction to the catalan referendum and so the specimen in London might very well feel boosted by what is happening in Spain this weekend.

If anyone is in Camden, then they should be aware of what might happen there this weekend. The scum in the tweet says they were meeting up at Camden lock to do a recce (yesterday) and that if the Catalans didn't take down the flags they would return and break their windows. All members of this group will have a spanish flag on their clothes or even be draped in a whole flag, so not difficult to spot. Anyone sporting a spanish flag this weekend should be considered as dodgy as fuck.