Angela Rayner's time is up
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Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
Hope he gets cautioned for wasting police time.
teqniq
DisMembered
Lots of people in the replies are saying the same thing Also that he won't answer the question because the answer is potentially libelous.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Rigby missed a trick. She could have asked... if the police find that Raynor has no charges to answer, will you resign? Ah well.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Dunno tbh , a Prescott type figure is always useful. Gives a bit of ‘left’ colour.
ska invita
back on the other side
they already tried that at the height of the great purge....i can't remember now how she managed to claw her way back , can anyone recall?
ska invita
back on the other side
My memory is so hazy...iirc they tried to get rid of her, she put up a fight (? how?), and then somehow even ended up as a second in command figure...is that what happened? am i making it up?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Something like this? Power struggle, with the soft left ( Rayner also heavily backed by Unison and GMB.) and the Northern municipalists led by Burnham saying Starmer had gone too far in scapegoating her for the 2021 elections results. This resulted in a stand off as she was seen to be more useful in the 'red wall' areas than the cardboard Starmer. Starmer and the Blairites worried about Burnham as a potential challenger not Raynor so 'an accommodation' was made.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Deputy leader is a directly elected position isn't it so not so easy to chuck her out once she was in.
Plus to be honest she's really not that far removed from Starmer politically is she?
Plus to be honest she's really not that far removed from Starmer politically is she?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
She's a product of Labour NorthWest and Unison's full timers so Burnham-ish originally, then an enthusiast for Corbyn and McDonnell and then the left face of Starmer. Flexible and ambitious.
ska invita
back on the other side
Biding her time to be next leader I expect. Eyes on the prize
That moment she nearly got booted out definitely made her more of a parrot. Playing the dirty game ...
That moment she nearly got booted out definitely made her more of a parrot. Playing the dirty game ...
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I quite like her, forceful but thoughtful, looks like someone that knows how to take the fight to the Tories.
At this stage she’s my bet for the next leader, can’t see anyone who comes close to her profile or talent.
At this stage she’s my bet for the next leader, can’t see anyone who comes close to her profile or talent.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you should take a trip to specsavers
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
You've come out with some right nonsense lately but the idea that talent is the key factor in deciding who ends up leading major political parties may be the grand prize winner.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I suspect he isn't actually far off. Just not for the reasons he thinks.
That's the most depressing thing I've read all day. 'Talent'?!
We've got five years of Starmer, which I can deal with, and then it'll probably be Streeting. And btw, the Tories are about to be wiped out so there won't be any need to take a fight to them.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I remember when Labour lost badly in 2019 Tory friends saying the same about Labour not being a threat for a decade. I don’t rule out the Tories winning the next election…That's the most depressing thing I've read all day. 'Talent'?!
We've got five years of Starmer, which I can deal with, and then it'll probably be Streeting. And btw, the Tories are about to be wiped out so there won't be any need to take a fight to them.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
You clearly know little of politics if you think talent (in her case political) doesn’t play a major factor in success.
If Boris comes back, then they'll possibly recover but otherwise I can't see them being a threat for a generation
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Starmer isn't going to stand down after five years. Two elections at least, may try and do a Blair/Brown and swap halfway through the next one, tho he'd be wise not to.
Far too far off too predict the next leader, Streetings arrest for financial malpractice in 2028 will bugger his chances up. Andy Burnham will need to ride in and save the day.
Far too far off too predict the next leader, Streetings arrest for financial malpractice in 2028 will bugger his chances up. Andy Burnham will need to ride in and save the day.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Liz Truss got to be prime minster.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I can’t see him coming back or turning things around if he did. What the Tories need to do is pick a leader from a newer generation that has basically no major public profile. They need someone like Labours Darren Jones.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Yup, and guess who was very happy about that? Her talent: making hedge funds richer.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I wasn't aware it was even possible to post on U75 from a parallel fucking universe, but here in this one where the rest of us live it was the financial markets that got Truss thrown out of office.
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
I honestly think Starmer might get booted by his own inner circle sooner than people think. The bloke's a liability. He's so lacking in charisma that I think he personally will adversely effect Labour's popularity even before the next general election. I don't think a Labour landslide in 2024 is the same guarantee of a two term govt that it was in 1997. (We've just seen the Tories spunk an eighty seat majority in the space of 4 and a half years. Such a turnaround would have been unthinkable back in the day.)
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Who is the most charismatic alternative to Starmer that his inner circle would put up, sooner than people think?
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