Afghanistan: Mission Accomplished
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A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Pritti's angling for Thursday week.
Gramsci
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Some reporting from Kabul
Afghanistan Has a New Government: The country wonders what the new normal will look like
Afghanistan has a new government. Its exact shape is not yet clear, but its contours can be discerned from a combination of messaging, how the Taleban entered and then took control of Kabul and reports from areas that had come under their control over the last few weeks, months and years. So...www.afghanistan-analysts.org
Artitcle says chaos at airport was mainly down to the US taking it over. Civilian flights were cancelled and US were prioritising getting their own people out. Leaving civilian Afghans unable to get out. Nice of US to look after number one.
It also suggests Taliban had done deals with regional leaders/ politicians to get them to surrender. Which would have been made some time ago.
What they deals are the article does not go into. Last Taliban government was extremely harsh on some of the non Pashtun minorities.
The last time the Taliban came to power after a bloody conflict they gained a destroyed country with no infrastructure and no money. Rife with extremists and Al Quida.
This time they benefit from 20 years of development, vast amounts of funds and experience of already governing over half the country all be it the impoverished rural bits.
It makes perfect sence they want to retain the civil service including workers.
This time they benefit from 20 years of development, vast amounts of funds and experience of already governing over half the country all be it the impoverished rural bits.
It makes perfect sence they want to retain the civil service including workers.
I donated to this charity today. I saw the guy being interviewed. Yes, he's a former royal commando, but he went back to Kabul to set up a charity for homeless animals and employs about 25 Afghans there as vets. He's refusing to leave until they're allowed to come to the UK. He seems a genuinely good man.
www.mirror.co.uk
This is his charity, you can donate there if you like for him to get them out, although it seems unlikely. I'm more of an animal person than a people person I have to admit and this is pretty sad.
www.nowzad.com
Ex-Royal Marine in Kabul forced to put dogs down with Taliban just minutes away
Former Cammando Pen Farthing set up a charity in 2007 to save street animals in Afghanistan. He says he is trying to help evacuate most of the animals, but as the Taliban closes in will have to put down those that are old or injured
www.mirror.co.uk
This is his charity, you can donate there if you like for him to get them out, although it seems unlikely. I'm more of an animal person than a people person I have to admit and this is pretty sad.
Nowzad; winning the war for animals
We started from one small act of kindness by a Royal Marine in a remote desert outpost in Helmand Province and now with the amazing donations of our Nowzad family of supporters we are making a difference for animal welfare in Afghanistan, as well as reuniting serving soldiers and ex-pats in...
www.nowzad.com
I wonder when the US and it's allies will start bombing again
ska invita
back on the other side
soon as people start having weddings again
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
a long long time away unless the taliban seriously break the terms of the peace agreement
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Excellent Twitter thread on the historical antecedents of the Taliban and the long run (and largely historically clueless) interventions from outsiders:
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
There's no 'suggestion' about it. It's very clear from the speed of the takeover and the lack of resistance that local leaders have waved them in. One can't really blame them but I doubt they'll be far down the line once the head-chopping begins.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh the new rules won't be waived
eatmorecheese
He's fallen out of the car again
Headlines and chatter will fade, then the same shit will resume. For 'our values'
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh we're worthlessHeadlines and chatter will fade, then the same shit will resume. For 'our values'
Combustible
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I don't know why you would think that. The fact that the Taliban had a good relationship with tribal leaders and understood their political dynamics, whereas the western countries remained clueless, is a major reason that the Taliban are in the position they find themselves in.
gawkrodger
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and a superpower which is, at the least, expressing interest in working with them
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
so how come it took them 20 years if they were so linked in?
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
I can already hear the haunting burial track that Adam Curtis will play over the top of this footage, mixed with his narration drawn from parts of the wikipedia entry on 'Taliban'.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
It's pretty obscene that people are worrying about evacuating dogs when so many human lives are at risk.I donated to this charity today. I saw the guy being interviewed. Yes, he's a former royal commando, but he went back to Kabul to set up a charity for homeless animals and employs about 25 Afghans there as vets. He's refusing to leave until they're allowed to come to the UK. He seems a genuinely good man.
Ex-Royal Marine in Kabul forced to put dogs down with Taliban just minutes away
Former Cammando Pen Farthing set up a charity in 2007 to save street animals in Afghanistan. He says he is trying to help evacuate most of the animals, but as the Taliban closes in will have to put down those that are old or injured
This is his charity, you can donate there if you like for him to get them out, although it seems unlikely. I'm more of an animal person than a people person I have to admit and this is pretty sad.
Nowzad; winning the war for animals
We started from one small act of kindness by a Royal Marine in a remote desert outpost in Helmand Province and now with the amazing donations of our Nowzad family of supporters we are making a difference for animal welfare in Afghanistan, as well as reuniting serving soldiers and ex-pats in...
He's also trying to evacuate his staff. He's said he's aware the UK is full of bigoted anti-immigration cunts (to paraphrase, he put it much more politely) so doesn't them to have to rely on the state if possible so is asking for donations.
JimW
支那暗杀团
Waiting for the beast to wear itself out and the prospects of a successful new order to entirely evaporate. Hence the various local powers have calculated they now have a better chance of maintaining their interests versus a Taliban regime than a US-backed kleptocracy and the Taliban aren't silly enough to upset the balance that's got them there. Like good old high feudal relations between the crown and the barons.
David Clapson
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It's not black and white. A few of the leaders who were former members of the Northern Alliance are deadly enemies of the Taliban and might be executed or jailed. But the Taliban gets many of its recruits from the tribes. Most Afghans are borne into a tribe. They go to their local madrassa and then they might be recruited into the Taliban, but their families might be loyal to the local warlord. The Taliban would shrink if it put all the tribal leaders on the hitlist.
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steveseagull
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Watching the Taliban news conference
Translators and contractors who worked with the west will be pardoned
There will be no unnecessary knocks on doors or vehicle check points
Women will be required to wear a hijab but not a burka
Women and girls will be allowed to go to school and work
They will not allow any foreigners (foreign fighters) use the country to attack other countries
Make of that what you will
Translators and contractors who worked with the west will be pardoned
There will be no unnecessary knocks on doors or vehicle check points
Women will be required to wear a hijab but not a burka
Women and girls will be allowed to go to school and work
They will not allow any foreigners (foreign fighters) use the country to attack other countries
Make of that what you will
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Combustible
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They were up against the world's strongest superpower and their allies. And from many accounts it seems that a lot of the tribal and regional leaders nominally went along with the occupation and new Afghan government (hence the speed of the Taliban's collapse in 2001), since they were the ones with the money and weapons, but they fully expected this to be temporary and for the Taliban to return.
Flavour
hang the bankers
tbf bitter lake is probably the best thing he's ever done as it is slightly less unhinged and a bit more focused on a single topic with less "meanwhile, at the very same time, in a forest in bolivia" moments
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Poverty stats. Afghanistan has about 1.3 GW of Electricity generation capacity - well 600 MW in country and an import capacity of 700 MW foe 40 million people. To put that into perspective we have about 55GW installed capacity in the UK.
600 MW is also one unit of an old coal or nuclear power station or a couple of modern CCGT units.
600 MW is also one unit of an old coal or nuclear power station or a couple of modern CCGT units.
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steveo87
22/11/2022 - got a maths joke.
This is the worst part, for me personally.Headlines and chatter will fade, then the same shit will resume. For 'our values'
I feel incredibly sad and a bit lost over this, I can't say for exactly why, but it's hit me like a brick.
But I know that in a couple of weeks, it'll just be another 'thing' to me, like Libya, or Hong Kong, or Georgia, or Ukraine....
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
er the taliban collapsed before the occupation and formation of a new afghan government: i think you've things rather arse over tit
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