A thank you to Brexiteers.

[Barbary]

You talk as if you’d lost, or brexit hasn’t happened. But you won and brexiteers have been in charge since then and we have indeed brexited.
So why are you obsessed with ‘remainers’ ? They’re irrelevant, some people who lost a vote 7 years ago . Very weird behaviour.

I'm not going to be complacent and think remainers/re-joiners are about to stop with their bile. All re-joiner MPs, through voting, should be removed.

 

[Barbary]

So you're an anarchist then?

I doubt I'd be bothered with the electorate, if I was an anarchist.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

This is quite something to behold.

 

[Barbary]

This is quite something to behold.

Are you looking at your tonsils in the mirror?

 

[sleaterkinney]

I doubt I'd be bothered with the electorate, if I was an anarchist.

An anti-capitalist of some description then, if you want independence.

 

[Barbary]

An anti-capitalist of some description then, if you want independence.

I don't follow the logic. If you look at the party that promotes individualism/independence in the UK, the Tories, you couldn't describe them as ant-capitalists. I have left leaning, but I'm not ant-capitalist. I don't like privatisation, but I wouldn't go in totally the opposite direction and have all out nationalisation. I would nationalise the utilities.

 

[Barbary]

The whole idea of natural borders is a bit of a nonsense, but if we wanted to find the "natural" border between Britain/ the UK and Ireland, the sea would be the obvious place to put it.

I understand, from the Irish perspective, a border in Ireland isn't natural. In effect, it is where it is. I have no problems with any country wanting to be independent. The reality is, they are not there yet. But the sea border isn't any good for the GFA. It's created tensions. And no, I don't accept that the EU is legitimate.

I would be interested to know what a Republican Irish person would think of the EU's position in Ireland, following a unification. Is it the best they can think of doing, following a unification, to bow to the EU. Seriously? That would be something for the Scots to consider, also.

 

[philosophical]

No member country ’bows’ to the EU, that would be bowing to yourself.
You could I suppose try bowing in front of a mirror, but the writing on your sweatshirt would be backwards.
The EU is not a foreign country or government to its members, nor to anybody else. It is a sophisticated trading bloc.

 

[sleaterkinney]

I don't follow the logic. If you look at the party that promotes individualism/independence in the UK, the Tories, you couldn't describe them as ant-capitalists. I have left leaning, but I'm not ant-capitalist. I don't like privatisation, but I wouldn't go in totally the opposite direction and have all out nationalisation. I would nationalise the utilities.

But they have no independence, their PM, Liz Truss was ousted by the markets and they accepted it.

 

[Barbary]

No member country ’bows’ to the EU, that would be bowing to yourself.
You could I suppose try bowing in front of a mirror, but the writing on your sweatshirt would be backwards.
The EU is not a foreign country or government to its members, nor to anybody else. It is a sophisticated trading bloc.

The EU is not a country. It is a trading bloc. Asda, with attitude and delusions of grandeur.

 

[Artaxerxes]

The EU is not a country. It is a trading bloc. Asda, with attitude and delusions of grandeur.

Which is it, a horrific undemocratic hellhole or a glorified hyper market?

 

[Barbary]

But they have no independence, their PM, Liz Truss was ousted by the markets and they accepted it.

I think you're talking about what it is to be in government. You take decisions, and some of them backfire. No one at work has independence.

 

[Barbary]

Which is it, a horrific undemocratic hellhole or a glorified hyper market?

Why is there any need to choose? I don't see it as an either or question.

 

[sleaterkinney]

I think you're talking about what it is to be in government. You take decisions, and some of them backfire. No one at work has independence.

So you're saying that the government isn't independent at all?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

The EU is not a country. It is a trading bloc. Asda, with attitude and delusions of grandeur.

Except the EU seems to currently have plenty of fruit and veg, yet my local Asda has empty shelves.

 

[Barbary]

So you're saying that the government isn't independent at all?

No. I'm saying the people at work there aren't independent agents.

 

[Barbary]

Except the EU seems to currently have plenty of fruit and veg, yet my local Asda has empty shelves.

Let's hope some party puts it in their manifesto, come election time, to tick off Asda.

 

[sleaterkinney]

No. I'm saying the people at work there aren't independent agents.

So we are ruled by people who aren’t independent, who or what controls them?

 

[bimble]

true sovereignty is a lack of tomatoes.
Every time you make any agreement with someone you lose a bit of your Freedom so sod them the foreigners and their plentiful food.

 

[domestos]

This may be a bit off-piste but the Press hammered Corbyn for allowing anti-semitism in the Labour Party with little fuss about the reports by former classmates reported in various newspapers that when he was at school, Farridge would march around Dulwich College singing "gas 'em all". This disgusting aberration of humanity should never have been given the oxygen of publicity.

 

[xenon]

(lifts lid on thread again)
Urgh, right, wut?... pfft . Nah.
(puts lid back on)

 

[ska invita]

(lifts lid on thread again)
Urgh, right, wut?... pfft . Nah.
(puts lid back on)

A new low today - seven years on thats impressive

 

[brogdale]

brexit truthers like this think it would have been better if

true sovereignty is a lack of tomatoes.
Every time you make any agreement with someone you lose a bit of your Freedom so sod them the foreigners and their plentiful food.

Here I am this afternoon in Lidl nailing your remoaniacal nonsense!

 

[brogdale]

Last pack in the UK, obvs

 

[bimble]

I got the last red pepper in tescos . It’s a bit of a funny shape.

 

[Pickman's model]

So we are ruled by people who aren’t independent, who or what controls them?

4 letters, begins with j no doubt

 

[teuchter]

At times like these, Scotland's more rational approach to fruit and vegetable consumption starts to show its strength.

 

[Raheem]

At times like these, Scotland's more rational approach to fruit and vegetable consumption starts to show its strength.

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Concern in some quarters about the anglicisation of the under-25s, no doubt.

 

[mojo pixy]

Not the case. At least not the case outside of the remain mindset anyway. There is, of course, the existence of a large alt-right/neo-liberal/southern affluent pro-Brexit bloc. But there is also - and in the vote a decisive one - a working class, pro-change, anti establishment bloc. This latter bloc, where LeFT sought influence, voted Brexit as a response to the world that they saw around them: deindustrialization, falling wages and rising inequality and a papabile sense that they were being economically and culturally expelled from post modern Britain and were without any political representation. As such, planet remain - with its starting point being a militant defence of the status quo - has more common ground with the pro Brexit neo-liberals whose starting point was also a militant defence of the economic status quo than does the working class pro-leave constituency.

We lived through different brexits then you and me, because I never saw any Lexit campaigning in my area (a fairly working class bit of Bristol). The only Leave campaigning I saw either in the local town centre (Kingswood) or in the form of leaflets, was the normal right-wing Leave stuff. I am and was aware of the Lexit arguments, but in my local area those definitely weren't the ones I was seeing promoted anywhere. Nobody but nobody campaigned Lexitly at me. Not even once. If I hadn't been on U75 I'd probably never even have heard the term tbh.

 

[krtek a houby]

I would be interested to know what a Republican Irish person would think of the EU's position in Ireland, following a unification. Is it the best they can think of doing, following a unification, to bow to the EU. Seriously? That would be something for the Scots to consider, also.

Evidently you aren't that interested.