A thank you to Brexiteers.
- Thread starter MrSki
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Obviously when Ireland is free from the UK it won't be looking to rejoin that union. That's the point of the 6 counties leaving the UK.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Indeed. Your position is neutral, albeit with a deep concern about the impact of exit on the free flow of capital and goods (and possibly labour).
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Barbary
New Member
Should Ireland gain unification, the whole of Ireland would automatically be part of the other union. They would have no autonomy. It's a fallacy to think they would have it.
Around Ireland, there would be a border, belonging to the EU. Belonging to Ireland, plus 26 other countries.
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philosophical
Well-Known Member
Every EU member state has autonomy except in areas they may agreeably cede some autonomy for the greater good.
It is a bit like everybody agreeing to drive on the same side of the road for the greater good, and not complaining that they should be able to choose to zig zag all over the place.
Individual member states also have the power of veto in many instances of EU activity and governance.
If somehow there was a United Ireland it would be absolutely fine in the European Union if it so wished to be.
It is the UK that has voted to be cabined cribbed and confined under the auspices of a small group of ultra right evildoers.
It is a bit like everybody agreeing to drive on the same side of the road for the greater good, and not complaining that they should be able to choose to zig zag all over the place.
Individual member states also have the power of veto in many instances of EU activity and governance.
If somehow there was a United Ireland it would be absolutely fine in the European Union if it so wished to be.
It is the UK that has voted to be cabined cribbed and confined under the auspices of a small group of ultra right evildoers.
Barbary
New Member
Individuals acting in an autonomous way can do things which strip them of any benefit that autonomy would have given them:
Throwing yourself under a bus; Becoming addicted to drugs; Acting in a criminal fashion, and becoming incarcerated.
Acting autonomously to abide by the needs of many countries can be done by treaties. There is no need to adopt an external government, thereby giving away autonomy. It is important that the electorate have a direct link to the governments of their land. Having one, or several, that can go over the heads of the electorate is unhealthy to democracy.
Democracy is in decline. Only 4.5% of the world's population is estimated to be living in a full democracy. The USA was demoted some years ago, and before Trump. Before that, the estimation was 9%, so you can infer from that, that roughly a number the size of the USA population still live in a full democracy. 331 million. The world population is reaching 8 billion.
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We'll hang on all the same, ta. Your Brexit hasn't yielded the glorious results promised. But it has opened up a window of freedom for Ireland. The EU didn't try to wipe out the culture, the language, the religion and brutalize our country.
Good luck with your Brexit all the same.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
None of the world's population live in a full democracy. You wouldn't even know one if one nipped you on the arse, being as you can't even tell me what makes a democratic vote without coming unstuck
Barbary
New Member
That's because you're irrational.
Great comeback. Keep up the good work.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
And you're stupid and ignorant. Rationality founded on stupidity and ignorance isn't worth a penny
Barbary
New Member
Listen here, you cretin. I don't make up the terms. But if you think the EU is a beacon, you're definitely an idiot.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
You're fucked in the head. Utterly fucked. I don't know what you think you're responding to but it's clearly not what I've written.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Barbary
New Member
No. You just have an overinflated opinion of your capacity to be intelligent.
Barbary
New Member
I was hoping to find some re-joiner intelligent life forms. Disappointed.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
By no means, by no means. As Einstein said the difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits. And in this thread you've plumbed the depths of abject stupidity, claiming that votes happening in the UK, because they happen in the UK, must be democratic, for example. Claiming that what parliament says is democratic is democratic, even though that body in extremely undemocratic. That the border between the six counties and the 26 in Ireland is a natural border. It's frankly painful seeing you vomit forth such shit, the only saving grace being that I'm sure your parents haven't seen you humiliate yourself so
That's some investment. Reckon you're on a buzz and love the sound of your own voice, rather than listen to any of the replies.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Given the amount of time he's devoted to this thread no one else likes the sound of his voice
Barbary
New Member
You're still a twerp. I doubt you have the intelligence of the dirt under Einstein's little finger nail.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh. We're all in the gutter, as a great irishman once said, but some of us are looking at the stars.
Barbary
New Member
Of course, but some of them will be face down, looking at the gutter.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh, people like you
savoloysam
Pigman's pigman's ha ha charade you are..
The Holbornraty are too good for tomatoes.
bimble
floofy
The day has finally come where we’re advised to enjoy more turnips, brilliant.
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk
Eat Turnips Amid Tomato Shortage, Therese Coffey Says
We should "cherish the specialisms" that we have in this country, the cabinet minister suggested.
ska invita
back on the other side
not a bad innings
im detecting a little fatigue after yesterdays memorable effort though
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I'm back from grabbing lunch, and I can report that tomatoes are indeed available at my local Spar.
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I'm becoming increasingly convinced that these kind of shortages are largely a result of supermarkets being complacent and incompetent. They've had an easy ride ripping off their suppliers until the challenges of Brexit and the Covid pandemic upset their cosy arrangements, and so far they've shown a sluggishness in adapting to the new market conditions.
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