A thank you to Brexiteers.

[brogdale]

are you calling people stupid/manipulated/gullible???

der der de der de der der de der...

 

[bimble]

How come that ‘worried about relationship w EU’ line keeps climbing sharply atter the referendum is it remoaners ?

 

[ska invita]

"What is making this the issue that exercises them more than, for example, the crisis of capitalism, the cost of living crisis, war, environmental catastrophe?"

(a bit of Friday afternoon fun happy weekend brexit thread)

 

[2hats]

What is making this the issue that exercises them more than, for example, the crisis of capitalism, the cost of living crisis, war, environmental catastrophe?

Suspect you might want to examine the x-axis more closely.

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Source: Ipsos Issues Index, June 2022.

 

[ska invita]

Suspect you might want to examine the x-axis more closely.

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Source: Ipsos Issues Index, June 2022.

i was repeating verbatim the question Smokey asked this morning of Remoaners.
Guess you had to be there

 

[ViolentPanda]

Different words mean different things; as a result your posts mean different things. This is true whatever your intention.

It also does nothing to address the two gaping holes in your first offering; the first of which concerns the difference between would and could, while the second I'll leave you and all other remoaners to work out.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

I suppose "remoaners" is slightly better than the "remainiac" trope.
Slightly.

 

[ViolentPanda]

And the "anarcho fantasy" bit?

My own anarcho fantasies tend to involve me getting some of that "free love" I hear so much about, but never see (probably because I have "film star" looks - I look like Shrek!).

 

[ViolentPanda]

Yeah nothing says 'radical' more than being in the E fucking U

Nothing says "reactionary" more than leaving the EU without a fucking plan, like Johnson & his neoliberal knobcheeses deliberately did. I voted "leave", but I didn't vote for a "no deal" Brexit, the like of which was imposed on us after the fact.

 

[ViolentPanda]

The Guardian alerts me to another brexit benefit:

Why is it that every time I hear that arrogant poncing gobshite speak, I want to rip off his lower jaw and take a shit in it?

 

[ViolentPanda]

And those silly Ukrainians went and put an eu flag up in Kherson, the ungrateful bastards.

We are truly an ingratitudinous people.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Thought of any brexit benefits yet?

Syphilis is at an all-time high since we left the EU!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Foolish sounds a bit harsh; millions voted Leave in good faith based on what the campaigns had told them. I think anger might be a more appropriate response from folk who feel that they were misled/used.

Some of us couldn't see that a govt - any govt - would be so criminally stupid as to leave the customs union given the obvious consequences of doing so. We under-estimated how criminally stupid (and absolutely corrupt) our govt was (and is).

 

[ViolentPanda]

I’d take that lot over Farage any day.

Nah. Smarmer can fuck right off. He'd be a Farageista if he thought there was political mileage in it. He truly is a man without qualities.

 

[ViolentPanda]

A low rent Tom Watson.

You're making the assumption that Tom Watson isn't already the lowest-rent Tom Watson around.

 

[eatmorecheese]

Why is it that every time I hear that arrogant poncing gobshite speak, I want to rip off his lower jaw and take a shit in it?

A normal Pavlovian reaction

 

[ViolentPanda]

Sure. Rees Mogg suggested 50 years didn't he, to really see the benefits, and that seems a bit long. Maybe see where we are at around 2030?

Of course, Creepy Rees Smug was careful enough to put a slice of his personal wealth & potential earnings beyond Brexit's reach by incorporating in the RoI, which speaks loudly to his own hypocrisy on the subject of "Brexit benefits", even ones half a century away.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Swedish structural racism would not bother you?

Not as much as Parsnipish structural racism would.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Principal driver appears, to me, reducing number of people on civil service pension

Cutting down the Civil Service employment roll only has any benefit in about 20-30 yrs time though. As it is, the govt has to keep paying into PCSPS & the satellite schemes at current rates, even though they've already kicked Final Salary schemes into touch (except for the Mandarins, of course).

 

[Karl Masks]

Syphilis is at an all-time high since we left the EU!

that explains Mogg

 

[sleaterkinney]

I didn't assume or presume anything. The position adopted was a) a recognition of the political opportunity to divest Britain of the dead weight of the neo-liberal EU and its gathering political federalism (plus the increasing control and punishment beatings of countries who refused to impose savage austerity like Greece by the troika of the IMF, ECB and unelected bureaucrats) with the key organising principle a race to the bottom b) the political opportunity to further widen and deepen the debate about what type of economy and society we should organise and fight for with the opportunity (still extant) to rebuild a national economy based on a shift towards economic democracy c) a chance to boot the established order in the bollocks, including all of the parties represented in the HoC who suported remain and d) a question of class solidarity - leaving aside the foul politics of the leadership of Official Leave and Official Remain - the leave vote where I live and work was overwhelmingly working class and the remain support most strident amongst useless middle class liberals.

I have explained all of this many time before on this groundhog day of a thread...

I mean, none of this was on offer or came to pass. It’s like saying “I voted brexit to ban marmite” . It’s a Groundhog Day of a thread because we can’t argue against something that has never existed.

 

[Pickman's model]

I mean, none of this was on offer or came to pass. It’s like saying “I voted brexit to ban marmite” . It’s a Groundhog Day of a thread because we can’t argue against something that has never existed.

Yes we can. Let me give you an example - god. People have been arguing against god for centuries

 

[inva]

I mean, none of this was on offer or came to pass. It’s like saying “I voted brexit to ban marmite” . It’s a Groundhog Day of a thread because we can’t argue against something that has never existed.

I don't think Smokeandsteam wants EU imposed austerity or unelected bureaucrats here

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Yes we can. Let me give you an example - god. People have been arguing against god for centuries

Well they try and have an argument, but the fucker never answers back.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Well they try and have an argument, but the fucker never answers back.

At least, not in ways that us mere mortals can understand.

 

[sleaterkinney]

I don't think Smokeandsteam wants EU imposed austerity or unelected bureaucrats here

We have that anyway without the EU.

 

[Ax^]

points at the house of lords and the latest unelected pm

 

[inva]

We have that anyway without the EU.

I'm sure left wing leave voters oppose that as well, consistency that's the thing

 

[pogofish]

Carole Malone an express hack and twat

Who just got her backside handed to her by Janey Godley..!

 

[MrCurry]

Whispers the U.K. wants to move the goalposts and change their deal with EU (Twitter thread below). Sounds very much like the cherry picking approach the EU side repeatedly ruled out back in 2016:

 

[Karl Masks]

Who just got her backside handed to her by Janey Godley..!

Brexit benefit?