A thank you to Brexiteers.

[skyscraper101]

What an utter twunt

 

[contadino]

What does Swiss style actually mean ?

Regulatory alignment.

 

[Raheem]

What does Swiss style actually mean?

Free movement, Schengen, contributing to the EU budget, toothpick, corkscrew.

 

[bimble]

Regulatory alignment.

but it's not some simple thing, like yes to regulatory alignment but no to FOM. Between the swiss and the EU there's hundreds of different bits and pieces of legislation and they're constantly haggling both ways aren't they.

 

[Lurdan]

Seeing as "remoaner" seems to have become an accepted term for a group of people whose preferred outcome or arrangement got rejected by the broader populace, and yet keep going on about it, can't we also have moanarchists, or urmoan75 or moanti-capitalists? Any other suggestions?

Cunt

I think moanarchist is quite witty, although a quick google search suggests it's not necessarily original.

Hmmm - I suppose you could have moanarchist-commoanist. Not nearly as witty and a bit of an awkward hybrid.

 

[Pickman's model]

Cunt

Is that a suggestion or simply your opinion of teuchter?

 

[brogdale]

Is that a suggestion or simply your opinion of teuchter?

I'd need to go back and review that.

 

[contadino]

but it's not some simple thing, like yes to regulatory alignment but no to FOM. Between the swiss and the EU there's hundreds of different bits and pieces of legislation and they're constantly haggling both ways aren't they.

Yeah, I think the legal status is made up of a series of bilateral agreements on various subjects between Switzerland and the EU.

The big one, though is an acceptance by the UK government that growth isn't gonna happen while regulatory alignment doesn't exist with our neighbouring trading block. I remember reading a few years ago that regulatory alignment also would mean that the border issue in NI gets solved.

ETA Oh, it seems the EU offered the UK regulatory alignment without fom in June but Johnson rejected it.

 

[andysays]

I think moanarchist is quite witty, although a quick google search suggests it's not necessarily original.

Hmmm - I suppose you could have moanarchist-commoanist. Not nearly as witty and a bit of an awkward hybrid.

Moanarchist sounds like someone unhappy about the continued existence of the Royal family

 

[Pickman's model]

Yeah, I think the legal status is made up of a series of bilateral agreements on various subjects between Switzerland and the EU.

The big one, though is an acceptance by the UK government that growth isn't gonna happen while regulatory alignment doesn't exist with our neighbouring trading block. I remember reading a few years ago that regulatory alignment also would mean that the border issue in NI gets solved.

There is only one solution to the border issue in Ireland and it's not regulatory alignment

 

[bimble]

which countries in the world apart from South Sudan and the UK are not in any regional trading block?

 

[teuchter]

Moanarchist sounds like someone unhappy about the continued existence of the Royal family

That would be a moanti-monarchist.

 

[teuchter]

which countries in the world apart from South Sudan and the UK are not in any regional trading block?

North Korea?

 

[brogdale]

which countries in the world apart from South Sudan and the UK are not in any regional trading block?

Trouble with you remoaniacs; you always exaggerate.

 

[Lurdan]

which countries in the world apart from South Sudan and the UK are not in any regional trading block?

Aren't we in the "final stage of accession" to the Trans-Pacific Partnership?

Shame we can't move the country out there. Reduced transport costs might sweeten that Australian Trade Deal.

 

[Artaxerxes]

North Korea?

So far up China's arse it can floss China's teeth

 

[bimble]

I think Afghanistan Venezuela and Iran, aren’t members of any trading blocs. ETA ok there’s quite a few of us grey bits.

 

[_Russ_]

So far up China's arse it can floss China's teeth

Its another one of those special relationships

 

[bimble]

Brexit very much back in the news now, after that statement from the chancellor about wanting frictionless trade or whatever pie in sky thing he said, and sadik khan piping up to say lets be honest brexit is not working.
I am very happy about this, did think the omerta from press & politicians would last longer than this.
And the tone of the conversation now seems to be almost sane, like people are willing to talk about the actual brexit we are enjoying and not just shut it down with claims that it’s simultaneously too late (get over it) and too early (Covid Russia) to even discuss changing it.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Its grimly fascinating observing the contortions of the political establishment have been going through in order to ignore the throbbing reality of just how shit brexit is. Looks like we are approaching the stage where that is no longer possible with the economy mired in the ditch.

 

[bimble]

Its grimly fascinating observing the contortions of the political establishment have been going through in order to ignore the throbbing reality of just how shit brexit is. Looks like we are approaching the stage where that is no longer possible with the economy mired in the ditch.

Yep they’ll have been closely observing all these polls as well showing that a growing majority of the electorate thinks it’s shit, so the sacred 17 million they’ve been focussed on for six years is done.

 

[bimble]

How did we end up with a country thats basically being blackmailed by this weird little cult of extremists that call themselves the ERG.

 

[TopCat]

The EU certainly never offered the UK a Swiss type arrangement and seem unlikely to do so now or in the future.
The reality for the Swiss is that every bit of Swiss legislation has to be checked for compatibility with EU law and regulations and signed off by the EU in order to proceed.

Can’t see this floating over here.

Good to see remainer hopes up though. Soon I hope to be dashed.

 

[Pickman's model]

The EU certainly never offered the UK a Swiss type arrangement and seem unlikely to do so now or in the future.
The reality for the Swiss is that every bit of Swiss legislation has to be checked for compatibility with EU law and regulations and signed off by the EU in order to proceed.

Can’t see this floating over here.

Good to see remainer hopes up though. Soon I hope to be dashed.

they so regularly are

 

[brogdale]

The EU certainly never offered the UK a Swiss type arrangement and seem unlikely to do so now or in the future.
The reality for the Swiss is that every bit of Swiss legislation has to be checked for compatibility with EU law and regulations and signed off by the EU in order to proceed.

Can’t see this floating over here.

Good to see remainer hopes up though. Soon I hope to be dashed.

Reckon you're right; too many interests are perfectly happy with the outcomes achieved following the referendum.

 

[bimble]

Isn't "swiss style" basically what teresa may was selling but she failed cos of the ERG so we got the hard brexit of their dreams.

 

[Pickman's model]

Isn't "swiss style" basically what teresa may was selling but she failed cos of the ERG so we got the hard brexit of their dreams.

no

don't you remember theresa may's red lines? What are Theresa May's Brexit red lines?

 

[bimble]

idk her former advisor thinks it is more or less the same, what TM failed to get years ago and what they're making noises about wanting now. It's all nonsense anyway but still good that its being discussed, instead of everyone pretending that brexit is done and dusted and must not be mentioned ever again.

 

[TopCat]

Isn't "swiss style" basically what teresa may was selling but she failed cos of the ERG so we got the hard brexit of their dreams.

No it was not the same.

 

[bimble]

No it was not the same.

ok. Are you worried that we might get regulatory alignment would that ruin your brexit?
Do you need it to stay exactly like this for ever, the brexit you want is the one that boris johnson made?