A thank you to Brexiteers.

[two sheds]

He had already done it, bimble’s quote was Biden trying to placate Macron. bimble is trying to make it in to a Brexit thing when it was most clearly not, a cracking example which is why this is the most toxic thread on the boards.

We've not seen the half of it yet

English cricket is in disarray – and it’s a metaphor for the whole country | Martin Kettle

Cricket is ruled by upper-class white men, deluded about their abilities. It’s hard not to see a parallel between the Ashes shambles and Brexit, says Guardian columnist Martin Kettle

www.theguardian.com

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The most toxic threads on these boards are the trans/terf ones

Which is why I have not posted on a single one, in spite of having a daughter who considers herself trans but I can’t ask the community here for help/advice cos of the way that shit goes.

 

[The39thStep]

The most toxic threads on these boards are the trans/terf ones

Surely not before Brexit, everything was better before then .

 

[Yossarian]

The most toxic threads on these boards are the trans/terf ones

If you wanted to trigger a total board meltdown you could try a "Will Brexit affect the rights of trans motorists?" thread.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

I would say this thread isn't anywhere near as toxic as the trans threads because no one really gives a fuck outside of this bubble, if Bimble is pishing her pants about an empty shelf while the rest of us are dealing with covid then no one really cares. I don't think urban quite realises that people still balls deep in the brexit thing after 2 years of this hellish pandemic are just cranks. Me seeing Brogdale- and apparently sound person- on here day in day out is just fucking WEIRD. I've seen some pure FBPE shit on fb and even half of those guys abandoned ship when covid hit.

Get a fucking grip, guys.

 

[Gramsci]

Back to the smaller more mundane total fuckups that are presented with Brexit. Getting goods shipped between here and germany. Just when you think you've got paperwork sorted another identical box being returned after repairs spends two weeks in Stanstead before being shipped back to Germany.

Company I sometimes work for regularly moves stuff between France/ Italy/ UK. Its had to employ extra person to deal with the extra paperwork. Even then things can go wrong. One lorry got held up overnight due to oversight ( not the fault of the company) in paperwork.

With 1st January few days away its only going to get more complicated.

Extra customs checks at borders from the first on January.

This was predictable consequence of Brexit. Tories had years to sort this out.

It could be argued it will only affect certain industries. ( fashion in this case) So who cares. They need to get with the programme of Brexit etc.

When people were encouraged to vote for Brexit was this really explained to them? I don't think so. It was all about getting control of our borders ( less immigrants) and getting back our sovereignty.

For some SME and those who depend on them for a living Brexit hasn't and won't be a good thing.

Maybe in long term this is all a price worth paying. So far I haven't seen anything positive.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Company I sometimes work for regularly moves stuff between France/ Italy/ UK. Its had to employ extra person to deal with the extra paperwork. Even then things can go wrong. One lorry got held up overnight due to oversight ( not the fault of the company) in paperwork.

With 1st January few days away its only going to get more complicated.

Extra customs checks at borders from the first on January.

This was predictable consequence of Brexit. Tories had years to sort this out.

It could be argued it will only affect certain industries. ( fashion in this case) So who cares. They need to get with the programme of Brexit etc.

When people were encouraged to vote for Brexit was this really explained to them? I don't think so. It was all about getting control of our borders ( less immigrants) and getting back our sovereignty.

For some SME and those who depend on them for a living Brexit hasn't and won't be a good thing.

Maybe in long term this is all a price worth paying. So far I haven't seen anything positive.

People voted leave for their own reasons and they differ widely- let me ask you when you voted remain was it explained to you that the institution you were asked to support was responsible for the deaths of 30,000 migrants at the time?

 

[Maltin]

Company I sometimes work for regularly moves stuff between France/ Italy/ UK. Its had to employ extra person to deal with the extra paperwork. Even then things can go wrong. One lorry got held up overnight due to oversight ( not the fault of the company) in paperwork.

With 1st January few days away its only going to get more complicated.

Extra customs checks at borders from the first on January.

This was predictable consequence of Brexit. Tories had years to sort this out.

It could be argued it will only affect certain industries. ( fashion in this case) So who cares. They need to get with the programme of Brexit etc.

When people were encouraged to vote for Brexit was this really explained to them? I don't think so. It was all about getting control of our borders ( less immigrants) and getting back our sovereignty.

For some SME and those who depend on them for a living Brexit hasn't and won't be a good thing.

Maybe in long term this is all a price worth paying. So far I haven't seen anything positive.

Didn’t you read the previous post? COVID is the only thing anyone is interested in now. Get a grip!

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Didn’t you read the previous post? COVID is the only thing anyone is interested in now. Get a grip!

Very childish response, there is space for linking things to the leave vote but this isn't the place for it. This thread is a dead end.

 

[Yossarian]

Didn’t you read the previous post? COVID is the only thing anyone is interested in now. Get a grip!

It appears that poster has now been sucked back in.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

It appears that poster has now been sucked back in.

who me?

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Yeah I'll speak for maybe 2 hours but this thread has been going years, that's the thing I'm identifying as a problem. It's not normal guys, let it go.

 

[Gramsci]

People voted leave for their own reasons and they differ widely- let me ask you when you voted remain was it explained to you that the institution you were asked to support was responsible for the deaths of 30,000 migrants at the time?

My partner is a immigrant and many of my ( working class) workmates are either immigrants or second generation.

Brexit was pushed by the right in this country for years by Farage and UKIP.

I remember at time of referendum white working class Londoner I now whose partner is Chinese asked me about which way to vote as he was swaying. I explained to him that there are two sides.

Some time after I bumped into him. Told me he voted Remain as in run up to referendum there was so much anti immigrant stuff. Even though that was about EU migrants he correctly saw that this was about immigration in general.

So voted Remain. As I did.

On EU being racist. TBF if EU ended tomorrow I don't see countries lile Poland introducing immigration policies that are any more restrictive than EU. There are voters across European countries who are going to vote for parties that restrict immigration whether they are in EU or not.

BTW since UK has left I don't see things improving for migrants trying to come to this country. So don't see how Brexit has helped.

Brexit was pushed by the right for years. As my workmate saw anti immigrant sentiment in this country would only be bolstered by Brexit vote.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

My partner is a immigrant and many of my ( working class) workmates are either immigrants or second generation.

Brexit was pushed by the right in this country for years by Farage and UKIP.

I remember at time of referendum white working class Londoner I now whose partner is Chinese asked me about which way to vote as he was swaying. I explained to him that there are two sides.

Some time after I bumped into him. Told me he voted Remain as in run up to referendum there was so much anti immigrant stuff. Even though that was about EU migrants he correctly saw that this was about immigration in general.

So voted Remain. As I did.

On EU being racist. TBF if EU ended tomorrow I don't see countries lile Poland introducing immigration policies that are any more restrictive than EU. There are voters across European countries who are going to vote for parties that restrict immigration whether they are in EU or not.

BTW since UK has left I don't see things improving for migrants trying to come to this country. So don't see how Brexit has helped.

Brexit was pushed by the right for years. As my workmate saw anti immigrant sentiment in this country would only be bolstered by Brexit vote.

I'm already aware that you think those living on the continent shouldn't have a fairly decent level of social democracy operating where they live on the basis that your anecdotal evidence proves most of them are racist. I've read your other posts on this subject. I can't really be arsed with dealing with your other sentences here, I voted leave. I know sound people that voted remain. I know arseholes that voted leave. I know arseholes that voted remain. Politics for me spans way beyond this one vote in 2016.

 

[MrSki]

I would say this thread isn't anywhere near as toxic as the trans threads because no one really gives a fuck outside of this bubble, if Bimble is pishing her pants about an empty shelf while the rest of us are dealing with covid then no one really cares. I don't think urban quite realises that people still balls deep in the brexit thing after 2 years of this hellish pandemic are just cranks. Me seeing Brogdale- and apparently sound person- on here day in day out is just fucking WEIRD. I've seen some pure FBPE shit on fb and even half of those guys abandoned ship when covid hit.

Get a fucking grip, guys.

Do you realise this thread was started almost a year after the pandemic started? It was the Government's hunger for popularity that stopped them delaying a political & economic transition that meant they had their eyes on two balls at once & dropped them both.

People have to try and live through both & surely it is okay to discuss both?

 

[Artaxerxes]

I'm already aware that you think those living on the continent shouldn't have a fairly decent level of social democracy operating where they live on the basis that your anecdotal evidence proves most of them are racist. I've read your other posts on this subject. I can't really be arsed with dealing with your other sentences here, I voted leave. I know sound people that voted remain. I know arseholes that voted leave. I know arseholes that voted remain. Politics for me spans way beyond this one vote in 2016.

Sure but brexits far more long lasting than one vote. The ripples will last decades.

It's fine to occasionally pop up and say look at this shower of cunts and this direct lie, it doesn't make you full fbpe loon spud. I'm not going to give the government a pass just because I can't change leave winning.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Do you realise this thread was started almost a year after the pandemic started? It was the Government's hunger for popularity that stopped them delaying a political & economic transition that meant they had their eyes on two balls at once & dropped them both.

People have to try and live through both & surely it is okay to discuss both?

Yes, I know when it was started I'm very familiar with urban. You've not understood the point of my post, and your contributions to this thread have been consistently pointless to boot.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Sure but brexits far more long lasting than one vote. The ripples will last decades.

It's fine to occasionally pop up and say look at this shower of cunts and this direct lie, it doesn't make you full fbpe loon spud. I'm not going to give the government a pass just because I can't change leave winning.

The problem is you are assuming everything that happens in the UK from 2016 onwards is a result of brexit, when the forces in operation right now are numerous and quite strong. Look at your analysis of the lorry driver crisis- IT'S BREXIT! and yet shortages in Poland and Germany were worse than ours.

 

[Flavour]

Yeah I'll speak for maybe 2 hours but this thread has been going years, that's the thing I'm identifying as a problem. It's not normal guys, let it go.

there are lots of posters who are living with the consequences of brexit and continue to have their lives made difficult by it on a daily basis.

 

[Artaxerxes]

The problem is you are assuming everything that happens in the UK from 2016 onwards is a result of brexit, when the forces in operation right now are numerous and quite strong. Look at your analysis of the lorry driver crisis- IT'S BREXIT! and yet shortages in Poland and Germany were worse than ours.

I didn’t know I reported heavily on the hgv crisis. Hope I got paid for it.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

there are lots of posters who are living with the consequences of brexit and continue to have their lives made difficult by it on a daily basis.

Sure, I don't think this thead serves them well, though.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

I didn’t know I reported heavily on the hgv crisis. Hope I got paid for it.

it was a sort of royal YOU. I said this thread was shite, you defended it. So I then just used shorthand from there.

 

[Artaxerxes]

it was a sort of royal YOU. I said this thread was shite, you defended it. So I then just used shorthand from there.

I shall practice my curtesy

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

I shall practice my curtesy

Yeah I mean i was taking the piss but a new curtesy for the working class would be fun

 

[MrSki]

Yes, I know when it was started I'm very familiar with urban. You've not understood the point of my post, and your contributions to this thread have been consistently pointless to boot.

Thank you very much for your constructive overview of my posts.

A lot of my posts have been pointing out the stupidity of Brexit but I suppose you don't think Brexit was a stupid idea? Especially the timing of its implementation.

If you think Brexit is great than you are going to find anyone who is willing to disagree with your ideas is pointless.

Don't talk about how shite Brexit is because you should be focusing on the pandemic when Brexit was introduced in the middle of a pandemic?

Really is that what you are trying to say or have I once again misunderstood your post?

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Thank you very much for your constructive overview of my posts.

A lot of my posts have been pointing out the stupidity of Brexit but I suppose you don't think Brexit was a stupid idea? Especially the timing of its implementation.

If you think Brexit is great than you are going to find anyone who is willing to disagree with your ideas is pointless.

Don't talk about how shite Brexit is because you should be focusing on the pandemic when Brexit was introduced in the middle of a pandemic?

Really is that what you are trying to say or have I once again misunderstood your post?

We have lived under neoliberal capitalism for as long as I've been alive. Yes I voted leave. I could have easily voted remain in slightly different circs. How someone voted doesn't matter to me at the end of the day, because real politics = everything around that. I know both leave and remain voters that don't differ from me remotely in terms of their politics.

 

[brogdale]

We have lived under neoliberal capitalism for as long as I've been alive. Yes I voted leave. I could have easily voted remain in slightly different circs. How someone voted doesn't matter to me at the end of the day, because real politics = everything around that. I know both leave and remain voters that don't differ from me remotely in terms of their politics.

That's what makes the thread so compulsive.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

That's what makes the thread so compulsive.

nah you've got shit taste man, you should take up corrie instead. merry christmas

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

I'm away and going to shut this window, I didn't mean to get in a huge debate and I can't be arsed, genuinely. Good night

 

[brogdale]

I'm away and going to shut this window, I didn't mean to get in a huge debate and I can't be arsed, genuinely. Good night

Night HC