A thank you to Brexiteers.

[philosophical]

None of the people in that photograph above have a solution to a post leave land border between the UK and the EU.
They didn’t have to. The nature of that land border is down to those who promoted and voted leave.
And it is now over five years of waiting for the leave voters to come up with something that honours what was voted for.

 

[Ax^]

look if the majority of leave voters did not care about how wales or scotland voted its a bit of a push to ask them to care about
the situation in ireland

the tory party just got around it by throwing money are foster whilst stermount was suspended at the time due to the sniff of corruption

 

[isvicthere?]

If only people would stop electing the wrong people, and generally voting the wrong way. You can't trust people. It's people who like Coldplay and voted for Hitler.

But people like lager and nuts!

 

[Ax^]

not sure if im more annoyed with people who like coldplay


or people who voted for Boris

 

[Artaxerxes]

look if the majority of leave voters did not care about how wales or scotland voted its a bit of a push to ask them to care about
the situation in ireland

the tory party just got around it by throwing money are foster whilst stermount was suspended at the time due to the sniff of corruption

Reminder, the residents of Wales voted Leave. The government of Wales repeatedly pretending this wasn't the case has been one of the more irritating aspects of this.

"but the real Welsh didn't vote leave" yadayada I know, yawn.

 

[Ax^]

and england did not care


hth

 

[Ax^]

good thing that brexit broke the westminster focus of politics in this country...

changing the status quo

 

[philosophical]

look if the majority of leave voters did not care about how wales or scotland voted its a bit of a push to ask them to care about
the situation in ireland

the tory party just got around it by throwing money are foster whilst stermount was suspended at the time due to the sniff of corruption

Whatever it looks like we will never know. 17+million people voted leave, for 17+ million reasons. So what?
They deliberately voted for a separation, therefore a differential between the UK and the EU, a border. Part of that border is a land border, overshadowed by the international treaty which is the Belfast Agreement.
I am not asking them to care about what they voted for, but to acknowledge it and sort it out for the future.
Now over five years of nothing from the leave voters, it is down to them, not remain voters.
I think they’re all cunts because of that nothing, and as time passes their cuntishness deepens.

 

[Ax^]

being from dublin if we get the 6 counties back due to the uk's indifference

i'm not going to be fighting that hard

 

[Spymaster]

Now over five years of nothing from the leave voters, it is down to them, not remain voters.

Don't be ridiculous.

 

[philosophical]

Don't be ridiculous.

Not as ridiculous as any sense at all that remain voters should sort out leaves mess.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Reminder, the residents of Wales voted Leave. The government of Wales repeatedly pretending this wasn't the case has been one of the more irritating aspects of this.

"but the real Welsh didn't vote leave" yadayada I know, yawn.

Bit like Cornwall, innit?

Conservatives blaming economic fall-out or the industrial decline of fishing, mining and farming industries on the EU. And people fell for it - even though Wales and Cornwall have benefited from a lot of EU funding.

The Welsh and Cornish folk were sold a pig in a poke by the Conservatives and Leave campaigns.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Brexit fishing deal: Kirkella owners 'devastated' by UK-Norway pact

The owners of the UK's biggest fishing vessel say the post-Brexit deal with Norway is not enough.

www.bbc.co.uk

Bit like Cornwall, innit?

Conservatives blaming economic fall-out or the industrial decline of fishing, mining and farming industries on the EU. And people fell for it - even though Wales and Cornwall have benefited from a lot of EU funding.

The Welsh and Cornish folk were sold a pig in a poke by the Conservatives and Leave campaigns.

Been a solid 40 year campaign to deflect all blame for anything the various governments have done to fuck over the British people on to the shoulders of the EU. From papers to parties themselves.

Absolute shit show.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Brexit fishing deal: Kirkella owners 'devastated' by UK-Norway pact

The owners of the UK's biggest fishing vessel say the post-Brexit deal with Norway is not enough.

www.bbc.co.uk

Been a solid 40 year campaign to deflect all blame for anything the various governments have done to fuck over the British people on to the shoulders of the EU. From papers to parties themselves.

Absolute shit show.

Tbh, though, surely the fishing industry is fucked up from a sustainability perspective when you have one massive freezer-trawler ship that's responsible for catching 8-12 per cent of cod sold in all the UK's fish and chip shops?!?

Haven't the fishing industry partly shot themselves in the foot when you have one ship that's catching around a tenth of cod sold in chippies around the country?

I mean, what's the equivalent, proportionally? One farm producing 10 per cent of all potatoes sold to make chips in chippies? How big would that farm have to be? (I don't know the answer, btw, but I'd imagine the answer would be 'fucking huge'.)

It's like property development and building high rise flats, it's all about greed and building bigger (not necessarily better) than the competitors. But then there comes a point where it all comes unstuck.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Tbh, though, surely the fishing industry is fucked up from a sustainability perspective when you have one massive freezer-trawler ship that's responsible for catching 8-12 per cent of cod sold in all the UK's fish and chip shops?!?

Haven't the fishing industry partly shot themselves in the foot when you have one ship that's catching around a tenth of cod sold in chippies around the country?

I mean, what's the equivalent, proportionally? One farm producing 10 per cent of all potatoes sold to make chips in chippies? How big would that farm have to be? (I don't know the answer, btw, but I'd imagine the answer would be 'fucking huge'.)

It's like property development and building high rise flats, it's all about greed and building bigger (not necessarily better) than the competitors. But then there comes a point where it all comes unstuck.

We've absolutely fucked the sea over when it comes to sustainability. The grand banks cod was a minor foretaste of what we've done the last couple of decades

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

We've absolutely fucked the sea over when it comes to sustainability. The grand banks cod was a minor foretaste of what we've done the last couple of decades

Like, as in agree, not like, obvs.

 

[Humberto]

It's a clash of interests, isn't it? Whereas personalities, abstention and commandeering of emotion all have their part in the result and the consequences.

 

[Humberto]

You don't respect a 'difference of opinion' with a Randian, for example. You can't reason with them.

 

[bimble]

Brilliant, imagine if we were still lumped in with all those other countries having to accept the same deals as they collectively get.

UK steel industry braces for slump in trade as US reduces tariffs on EU

Tariffs remain on UK exports to US as European Union rivals gain a 25% price advantage from New Year’s Day

www.theguardian.com

 

[brogdale]

Brilliant, imagine if we were still lumped in with all those other countries having to accept the same deals as they collectively get.

UK steel industry braces for slump in trade as US reduces tariffs on EU

Tariffs remain on UK exports to US as European Union rivals gain a 25% price advantage from New Year’s Day

www.theguardian.com

I don't think Biden will alter this situation until and unless the leave-loons give up on their NI protocol wrecking nonsense.

 

[stdP]

I don't think Biden will alter this situation until and unless the leave-loons give up on their NI protocol wrecking nonsense.

Regardless of the details of the NI protocol, most of the fooferal around the "special relationship" was that the UK was the pathway for US markets in to europe (at first military, then financial and other things) so we were worth keeping sweet for that reason alone. No US president is going to jeopardise a deal with the EU for the sake of the comparatively piddling UK market.

 

[bimble]

yep. Biden knew exactly what he was doing with this tweet back in October, which i think wasn't really about France.

 

[TopCat]

I am still very glad we left.

 

[Artaxerxes]

yep. Biden knew exactly what he was doing with this tweet back in October, which i think wasn't really about France.

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Then he fucked them over and sold Australia nuclear subs

 

[philosophical]

I am still very glad we left.

We haven’t left if the ‘we’ you intimate is the ‘we’ suggested by the ballot paper.

 

[brogdale]

I am still very glad we left.

Left what?

 

[Pickman's model]

Left what?

Childish things behind

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Then he fucked them over and sold Australia nuclear subs

He had already done it, bimble’s quote was Biden trying to placate Macron. bimble is trying to make it in to a Brexit thing when it was most clearly not, a cracking example which is why this is the most toxic thread on the boards.

 

[brogdale]

Childish things behind

I'd be hard pressed to identify any aspect of neoliberal shite that we've left behind.

 

[Pickman's model]

He had already done it, bimble’s quote was Biden trying to make amends. bimble is trying to make it in to a Brexit thing when it was most clearly not, a cracking example which is why this is the most toxic thread on the boards.

The most toxic threads on these boards are the trans/terf ones