BCBlues
Lend us a Twenner
By the way that's some sterling work you put in on the Sedgley thread discokermit . Well done.
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discokermit
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could put on a little buffet of that and revolting offal based delicacies at the pub at the end. im thinking. although i reckon battered chips and cheese and onion cobs are just as, if not more black country as the traditional enshrined stuff that nobody eats except my dad once in a blue moon and stinks the house out.
BCBlues
Lend us a Twenner
Orange chips Bilston style (Majors)
discokermit
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ta!
it is a lot more work than i thought it would be at the beginning but it turned out to be almost the story of the black country. clear lines of where, when and why people came here and what they did when they got here.
this is what got me thinking about the tour, doing like the museum but actually showing people the whole area from the top of a hill. which i conveniently live a few hundred yards down one side of, lol!
discokermit
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from the beacon hotel pub if you cross the road, the chips are battered and orange, or if you turn right and follow the road a couple of hundred yards along, there is a chippy which gives you a choice of orange or plain.
miss direct
misfungled
People are getting their vaccinations at the black country museum! How cool is that.
miss direct
misfungled
Oh those orange chips. Used to get them a lot when I lived in Wolverhampton. So good, but so bad.
BCBlues
Lend us a Twenner
I used to live in Hill Top and had a brilliant view of the area you are on about, the sunsets were amazing. It's the only thing I miss about that flat though.
discokermit
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funny thing is there used to be loads of isolation hospitals round here. i bet they felt proper clever when they knocked them all down.
BCBlues
Lend us a Twenner
I was working in Bilston when there was a fire at Majors which put it out of action for a couple of weeks. Nightmare.
discokermit
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i did some security work at a building site at hill top. took my dog with me.
discokermit
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a lot of folks tay was spiled that night.
BCBlues
Lend us a Twenner
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I’m not convinced that the Black Country is that much more different to be honest. Yes, working class people appear but often in a quite one dimensional way. While there is a fairly vibrant local history scene there it’s not really what I was thinking about.... Where are the great books about the history of the Black Country working class? Where are studies etc? Where are the Labour and social historians researching the area? For an area of its size it really is under researched in my experience.
Anyway, I think the walking tour is a brilliant idea. I can’t remember seeing one for the Black Country. If you can tap into the visitors who normally visit the BCLM you’d be well set. I think there is a massive gap across the region for these types of projects. I also think you’d get take up locally, maybe even from schools.
Carl Chinn does a walking tour round Digbeth on the Peaky Blinders (or at least he did before covid):
Birmingham Walking Tours - Brum Tours - BOOK NOW
Brum Tours: Birmingham's Number 1 Tour Company. We have Birmingham Walking Tours for all. BOOK ONLINE now or call us on (+44) 121 284 0909.
www.brumtours.com
Hopefully, this might give you some basic info etc.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
The best orange chips I’ve ever had was in Cradley Heath. There are two chippys right by where the Chainmakers main stage is set up. It was one of them but I can never remember which one it was we had them from (I had been guzzling Bathams and Banks’s earlier). They were stunning. Anyway, talking of orange chips, faggots and pays and so on...
The Hyper-Regional Chippy Traditions of Britain and Ireland
Pie barms, Bolognese chips, red pudding, chip spice, and the Justin Bieber Haggis Supper
vittles.substack.com
discokermit
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brilliant. i find him moderately bearable. i will check it out. possibly even try to contact him.I’m not convinced that the Black Country is that much more different to be honest. Yes, working class people appear but often in a quite one dimensional way. While there is a fairly vibrant local history scene there it’s not really what I was thinking about.... Where are the great books about the history of the Black Country working class? Where are studies etc? Where are the Labour and social historians researching the area? For an area of its size it really is under researched in my experience.
Anyway, I think the walking tour is a brilliant idea. I can’t remember seeing one for the Black Country. If you can tap into the visitors who normally visit the BCLM you’d be well set. I think there is a massive gap across the region for these types of projects. I also think you’d get take up locally, maybe even from schools.
Carl Chinn does a walking tour round Digbeth on the Peaky Blinders (or at least he did before covid):
Birmingham Walking Tours - Brum Tours - BOOK NOW
Brum Tours: Birmingham's Number 1 Tour Company. We have Birmingham Walking Tours for all. BOOK ONLINE now or call us on (+44) 121 284 0909.
Hopefully, this might give you some basic info etc.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I contacted him about 4-5 years ago to do a talk for our Branch. Ended up rattling to him for ages.
blossie33
trailer trash
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
He's quite a character isn't he, Professor Chinhe can't half talk!
He could rattle the leg off a chair. I had to tell him I had to go in the end or I’d still be on to him I reckon
gawkrodger
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Keep your eyes peeled (and for more than one lost river)
gawkrodger
Well-Known Member
BCLM has of course just gained a substantial cocktail of funding and will be expanding to include a 1950s (?) section
gawkrodger
Well-Known Member
I'm guessing you're familiar with George Barnsby?
gawkrodger
Well-Known Member
if people are interested I can spam/feed in plenty more of my day job related stuff if it is of interest to people
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I am. His stuff is good. But the fact that the preeminent labour historian of the region tells its own story doesn’t it.
discokermit
Well-Known Member
the building of the fifties housing estate has already started.
discokermit
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Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Tribune are running a series on Birmingham. The first article is by Lynsey Hanley and is here:
tribunemag.co.uk
She raises a number of points that have been posted here previously: the poverty, dereliction and neglect of some of the outer districts in the city, the eyesore mess of the city centre, the endless obsession with the ‘big event’, the depressing obsession behind the regular failed consumer led regeneration strategies and the fucking traffic.
But something feels off about the piece as well. It’s a bit jarring and, if I’m being honest, a bit ‘the view of a Brummie who fucked off to London as soon as they could’.....
The Second City
To begin a Tribune series on England's Second City, Birmingham's own Lynsey Hanley asks why the city's development was so chaotic – and tended to ignore, diminish and segregate its population.
tribunemag.co.uk
She raises a number of points that have been posted here previously: the poverty, dereliction and neglect of some of the outer districts in the city, the eyesore mess of the city centre, the endless obsession with the ‘big event’, the depressing obsession behind the regular failed consumer led regeneration strategies and the fucking traffic.
But something feels off about the piece as well. It’s a bit jarring and, if I’m being honest, a bit ‘the view of a Brummie who fucked off to London as soon as they could’.....
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