4 minute warning?

[Isambard]

I've been following the war closely and I haven't seen that happen once, so can you show me an example of it Isambard?

Here's the first example I found that more than hints at the issue. It's from focking Newsweek so hardly "pro Putłer" media.

Biden Thinks Non-Nuclear Threats Will Stop Putin. His Military Doesn't

The United States needs to talk the nuclear talk—and not be held back by the fear of having to walk the walk, military officials say.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Yossarian]

Here's the first example I found that more than hints at the issue. It's from focking Newsweek so hardly "pro Putłer" media.

Biden Thinks Non-Nuclear Threats Will Stop Putin. His Military Doesn't

The United States needs to talk the nuclear talk—and not be held back by the fear of having to walk the walk, military officials say.

www.newsweek.com

That story seems to just be anonymous sources complaining that Biden isn't threatening nuclear war strongly enough.

Newsweek is pretty fringe these days anyway, the opinion pages, at least, host a lot of far-right frothers like Josh Hammer, who was praising Ron DeSantis' Ukraine remarks a few days ago.

The Sunshine State governor, in his statement to Carlson, bemoaned the extent to which America's increasingly weapons-entrenched, rhetorically absolutist, and fiscally incontinent posture in Ukraine distracts from urgent problems at home, such as the horrific drug overdose epidemic inflicted upon our nation's youth by a wide-open southern border and the vicious drug cartels that operate with impunity in northern Mexico. Even worse, from the blobsters' blinkered perspective, DeSantis had the temerity to—egad!—reject the notion that further American entrenchment in a "territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia" represents a "vital national interest" for the U.S.

Ron DeSantis Joins the Fight for Sanity Against the Foreign Policy Blob

The truth is that the vitriolic reaction to DeSantis this week says everything about the blob's debilitating insecurities, and nothing about DeSantis.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Ax^]

Putin every time he stubs his Toe i will Nuke the west ...


some american generals complaining Biden is not doing the same


see all natos fault

 

[Throbbing Angel]

Trial run....?

Public emergency alerts to be sent to all UK smartphones

The government will send people loud, siren-like warnings to alert them when there is a risk to life.

www.bbc.co.uk

Yeah, Mrs A and I thought that when we saw it on the news this morning.

 

[Isambard]

That story seems to just be anonymous sources complaining that Biden isn't threatening nuclear war strongly enough.

Newsweek is pretty fringe these days anyway, the opinion pages, at least, host a lot of far-right frothers like Josh Hammer, who was praising Ron DeSantis' Ukraine remarks a few days ago.

The Sunshine State governor, in his statement to Carlson, bemoaned the extent to which America's increasingly weapons-entrenched, rhetorically absolutist, and fiscally incontinent posture in Ukraine distracts from urgent problems at home, such as the horrific drug overdose epidemic inflicted upon our nation's youth by a wide-open southern border and the vicious drug cartels that operate with impunity in northern Mexico. Even worse, from the blobsters' blinkered perspective, DeSantis had the temerity to—egad!—reject the notion that further American entrenchment in a "territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia" represents a "vital national interest" for the U.S.

Ron DeSantis Joins the Fight for Sanity Against the Foreign Policy Blob

The truth is that the vitriolic reaction to DeSantis this week says everything about the blob's debilitating insecurities, and nothing about DeSantis.

www.newsweek.com

I was particuarly thinking about tweets I'd seen from various Polish and Ukranian players I'd seen over the last months.

Anyway, maybe China will shortly suggest a deal that offers the US an off-ramp to end the war before we all get nuked.

 

[Ax^]

Anyway, maybe China will shortly suggest a deal that offers the US an off-ramp to end the war before we all get nuked.

?

 

[Isambard]

?

From what I have heard China is possibly trying to broker some peace deal. Xi is visiting Moscow and then Washington soon I think.

China recently brokered a new treaty in the Middle East I think (S. Arabia & Iran?).
Might be another indicator that the horrible war over Ukraine is not "just" about Ukraine but reflects how the world is maybe shifting.....

 

[Ax^]

hmm what Russia becoming a vassal state of china influence as they cannot no longer successfully rattle their sabre without back up?

some come down from the last 100 years

 

[Isambard]

hmm what Russia becoming a vassal state of china influence as they cannot no longer successfully rattle their sabre without back up?

some come down from the last 100 years

But being a large, resource rich state with access to Chinese technology and markets and significant regional power, might seem better than RU broken up into 20 statelets so that western capitalism can nick the oil more easily......

 

[Ax^]

hmm don't think anyone has asked for the break up of Russia just for it not to get back its Soviet Era iron wall

if you want to go starting a War and fuck it up completely whilst screaming about nuking the world


have to run to china is a sign of weakness and if i was Putin i would stay on the ground floor for a bit

even whilst visiting china

 

[keybored]

Duck and cover.

 

[pogofish]

I would be astonished as air raid sirens were removed about 30 years ago and have not been replaced. What happens next? We'd all be immolated if lucky or slowly die unpleasantly if unlucky

The replacement for the Siren Network went live today.

Emergency Mobile Phone Alerts

Scotland to take part in UK trial of warning system.

www.gov.scot

Roll-on the national test next month!

 

[pogofish]

Pray that it explodes directly above Slough (they actually detonate before they land)

Disn't they demolish that big bunker in Slough not that long ago? Allencion Link IIRC?

 

[geminisnake]

I would be astonished as air raid sirens were removed about 30 years ago and have not been replaced. What happens next? We'd all be immolated if lucky or slowly die unpleasantly if unlucky

We still have one and it was tested last year for some reason. If we get a 4 minute warning just after I've bought our first bit of yummy pollen since covid I will be most miffed!

 

[Pickman's model]

hmm don't think anyone has asked for the break up of Russia just for it not to get back its Soviet Era iron wall

if you want to go starting a War and fuck it up completely whilst screaming about nuking the world


have to run to china is a sign of weakness and if i was Putin i would stay on the ground floor for a bit

even whilst visiting china

Xi is going to Moscow.

 

[Ax^]

i'd still stay on the ground floor if i was putin


Amazing how many people who have wandered out of hospital windows in Moscow lately


when was the last time you were in a hospital that you could open windows in

 

[Elpenor]

Have switched off the notifications in my phone.

 

[maomao]

Amazing how many people who have wandered out of hospital windows in Moscow lately

It's exclusively Putin's enemies that walk out of windows as far as I can tell.

 

[Ax^]

aye but its a common tactic of removing weak looking military leaders in Russia atm

i'd be staying in my bunker away from windows if i was putin

 

[Pickman's model]

aye but its a common tactic of removing weak looking military leaders in Russia atm

i'd be staying in my bunker away from windows if i was putin

I hear you're so concerned you've abandoned Microsoft for linux

 

[Ax^]

Have switched off the notifications in my phone.

tbf i think its just so that we can all get the notification that the new king as been crowned

so for the best to switch off the notification

 

[Agent Sparrow]

There would be a build up before all out thermonuclear war. Even if Putin started with some silly show of strength it would take a day or two to blow up into all out missiles flying. That's when you tape up your windows, lay some supplies down etc. The four (or however many) minute warning is just the final hit. Even with a heavy bombardment most people will be dying of their injuries and of starvation rather than the sort of painless vapourisation of popular imagination. Far better to die in relative comfort (and having an outside chance of surviving) than of exposure with half your skin burnt off so it makes sense to prepare to some extent.

*saves post *

Bog roll is going to be pretty handy given the symptoms of radiation sickness.

It will be like pre-lockdown all over again!

 

[Bingoman]

*saves post *

It will be like pre-lockdown all over again!

oh God not again

 

[Isambard]

hmm don't think anyone has asked for the break up of Russia just for it not to get back its Soviet Era iron wall

if you want to go starting a War and fuck it up completely whilst screaming about nuking the world


have to run to china is a sign of weakness and if i was Putin i would stay on the ground floor for a bit

even whilst visiting china

Have you not seen that Western pundits habe multiple times posted maps of how they envisage breaking up Russia into about 20 statelets?

 

[kebabking]

Have you not seen that Western pundits habe multiple times posted maps of how they envisage breaking up Russia into about 20 statelets?

No, but I have seen Chinese state media post them - with China regretfully agreeing to look after the bit with all the oil and gas...

 

[LDC]

I think we might have ourselves another Galloway-lite anti-imperialist! Lucky us!

 

[Isambard]

I think we might have ourselves another Galloway-lite anti-imperialist! Lucky us!

China and Russia have imperialist intent too of course. They're not innocent parties.

Do lay off the personal digs please.

 

[LDC]

Fair enough, it just amused me having not seen you post in the last year on any Ukraine thread you pop up and comment on NATO hawks being threatening the use of nuclear weapons, and then Western pundits publishing maps of Russia fragmenting, when literally the only State I've seen threaten nukes is Russia and the only maps like that I've seen have been Chinese!

 

[maomao]

Fair enough, it just amused me having not seen you post in the last year on any Ukraine thread you pop up and comment on NATO hawks being threatening the use of nuclear weapons, and then Western pundits publishing maps of Russia fragmenting, when literally the only State I've seen threaten nukes is Russia and the only maps like that I've seen have been Chinese!

Biden essentially threatened nukes in October 22. He didn't threaten first strike but by saying that Russia's use if tactical nuclear weapons would lead to nuclear armageddon in a tough speech he was basically reminding everyone that the US has a fuckload of nukes and in those circumstances would use them.

 

[LDC]

I think commenting on how things could escalate is a slightly different take, whereas Russia media and State has been a constant stream of nuclear threats. If anything my perception of it is the US and NATO have constantly downplayed the potential use of nuclear weapons and tried to make clear they wouldn't be used, the response a Russian use on Ukraine was stated to be clearly non-nuclear.