24 Hours in Police Custody

[Ax^]

being a 2 part episode and he being that aggressive with getting them away from the property there is a chance

and defo the other kid is dead with this lead up

not one to google the case btw


edited to add** stand corrected

 

[Ax^]

saying that if its a 2 hour programme about justifying the Tony Martin defence

 

[moomoo]

That was outrageous! How did Adam White get sent to prison and the burglars get community service?

 

[Ax^]

2 burglars gave evidence against adam white

trying to kill someone outside of your drive way is frowned upon


if he had not crashed his own car he would of gotten away with it
and remembering cops are not friendly

 

[ddraig]

That was outrageous! How did Adam White get sent to prison and the burglars get community service?

Because he used a car as a weapon and caused life changing injuries?
And they, despite being thieving scumbags, didn't steal anything

 

[Part 2]

According to news stories they're suing against his car insurance for £1million for the injuries, he spent £50k on his defence and his wife terminated the pregnancy because they couldn't afford another baby with him being sent away.

 

[clicker]

I thought once the accident investigator said the car hit the kerb, 2 tyres deflated, then it hit the bike, that he'd get off as the car was out of control when it hit the bike.

 

[moomoo]

Because he used a car as a weapon and caused life changing injuries?
And they, despite being thieving scumbags, didn't steal anything

It was an accident. He didn’t mean to injure them.

 

[Ax^]

not sure about that

why did he hit the kerb if he was out of control

more like aiming the car

 

[Ax^]

bike inside corner

Merc that size could never take a corner like that without crashing out

 

[clicker]

I know it could be a deliberate ram job, but equally it could have been him not thinking, speeding round the corner and hitting the kerb. Then chaos and he hit the bike.
We'll never know, there was no cctv and he did hit the brakes, but too late to stop. Just surprised at the jury's decision. They could only guess at the level of intent too.

 

[Ax^]

they never provide the distance from the house


might of been a factor

 

[neonwilderness]

Didn’t it say near the start that he’d been driving for a “few minutes” before the accident? They didn’t seem to cover what his intentions were had he caught up with them which might have been a factor since he’d already scared them off.

Seems a bit harsh that he got sent down while the other two didn’t though, especially as they were caught on the rob again during the investigation

 

[Ax^]

if you are going to try to kill someone do it near or close to your house is my only suggestion


i chased these 2 wanker for a few miles at 90 mph is not a good look if you crashed your car into a parked pick up...

intend to rob vs intend to kill

 

[AverageJoe]

All three guilty in various ways.

Sadly, Adam decided to take the law into his own hands. The two thieves know how to play the game and work the syatem by saying "no comment" to everything. That forces the police to find more evidence.

Adam had no experience of this so tried to help. He should not have done what he did - he was lucky not to have had "with intent" added to his charge because at any time in those few minutes he could have decided to stop chasing.

As I found out last month, this is the worst thing to do. Trying to be helpful and honest leads to an easy conviction, another statistic, and another win on the forces books.

I never thought I'd say this after my ordeal but the police and the justice system is absolutely fucked.

 

[AverageJoe]

For clarity. I was told by my solicitor that if I had said "no comment" in my interview I'd have been found not guilty.

Now I can't train kids at football or any other sport for a few years because my victim knew how to play the system and make it appear worse than it was.

So who wins? The kids at sport don't. I don't. And I guess he just carries on as notmal.

 

[Ax^]

i feared for my life as i chased a motorbike down in a Jeep was never really going to win

 

[Ax^]

I never thought I'd say this after my ordeal but the police and the justice system is absolutely fucked.

sorry you found this out late

but police are never your friends

ACAB

 

[AverageJoe]

MCAB

 

[Part 2]

It was an accident. He didn’t mean to injure them.

What do you think his intention was in chasing them? I don't think he was just going to tell them off.

It was a fucking idiotic thing to do whichever way you look at it. He'd seen they were tooled up and left his pregnant wife and kids in the house. It seemed quite clear from the camera they'd been seen on that they'd not robbed anything.

The bit where he said 'they looked like two skinny kids' then changed it to 'about as big as me' when he realised it was the wrong thing to say was very revealing imo.

 

[not henry]

This is a long watch. It is also invaluable knowledge if you are having any dealing with the police.
Why is this stuff not taught a a basic life skill
I know it's American but so much translates.
After all why would you speak up

 

[DaveCinzano]

If you want to increase your chances of not being banged up, whether you've done anything or not, just remember that every day is SHUT THE FUCK UP FRIDAY.

 

[AverageJoe]

Wow. He talks fast. If that was normal speech that video woukd be like, three hours long!

 

[tonysingh]

That'll be the Daily Mail readers frothing in outrage now then.

The guy in the car...i get the moment of anger but once the burglars have had it on their toes, he's ripe for a nicking. In fairness he's lucky he didn't get a section 18 GBH lumped on him and thats gonna be double the bird at least. Using the car could easily have been seen as using a weapon.

The other two? Frequent fliers for real. They're gonna end up lumped off sooner or later.

 

[Petcha]

What odious little shits. Their suspended sentences have probably already been activated by now anyway. And those injuries are gonna be with them for the rest of their lives.

The detail about her deciding to have an abortion because of the legal costs. Well, you dont need to be a DM reader to be pretty fucking outraged about that.

 

[tonysingh]

What odious little shits. Their suspended sentences have probably already been activated by now anyway. And those injuries are gonna be with them for the rest of their lives.

The detail about her deciding to have an abortion because of the legal costs. Well, you dont need to be a DM reader to be pretty fucking outraged about that.

I entirely agree they are odious shitebags. But they still only attempted to burgle. That's almost always a suspended sentence. GBH is usually custodial.

 

[Petcha]

I entirely agree they are odious shitebags. But they still only attempted to burgle. That's almost always a suspended sentence. GBH is usually custodial.

I dont think he was eventually charged with GBH was he? It was some other charge like using a vehicle as weapon or something. He clearly should have kept his mouth shut at the scene and in the interview. I didn't actually see if he had a lawyer present there anyway which in itself is a bit unfair as the cops must have clearly seen he had no experience of the justice system.

 

[Ax^]

the abortion line is kinda odd addition


no ones ever had a kid whilst their partner is in jail

sure the hails comments section is having a field day

 

[tonysingh]

I dont think he was eventually charged with GBH was he? It was some other charge like using a vehicle as weapon or something. He clearly should have kept his mouth shut at the scene and in the interview. I didn't actually see if he had a lawyer present there anyway which in itself is a bit unfair as the cops must have clearly seen he had no experience of the justice system.

Ah I missed the bit dropping GBH bit.

Totally agree re old bill stitching him up.

 

[moomoo]

What do you think his intention was in chasing them? I don't think he was just going to tell them off.

It was a fucking idiotic thing to do whichever way you look at it. He'd seen they were tooled up and left his pregnant wife and kids in the house. It seemed quite clear from the camera they'd been seen on that they'd not robbed anything.

The bit where he said 'they looked like two skinny kids' then changed it to 'about as big as me' when he realised it was the wrong thing to say was very revealing imo.

This is very true. I certainly wouldn’t have chased them.