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2014 EU/Local Election Thread - Predictions and Results
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JimW
支那暗杀团
He represents generosity, apparently.
tim
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Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
I still believe the UKIP vote is least worst for the Tories. They would always have got a hammering tonight, but they can take heart from the utter destruction of the Lib Dems, the loss of Labour voters to UKIP and Labour's now clear difficulty with Europe and the sure knowledge that UKIP voting Tories will come back when it becomes apparent that they are the only route to a referendum.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Nice to see at least one region where UKIP didn't come first ...
tony.c
Well-Known Member
Yeah probably the last one we'll see tonight or for a long time.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
They'll be leakage back to the tories, no doubt...but that last point pre-supposes that those voting UKIP believe/trust the tories...many/most of them don't.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Those stupid proles not understanding that Clegg won those debates!
Not bizarre at all, vast swathes of the country had no local election. My part of Bristol only had Euros
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Ld>Green....wankers.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I think that SE lib-dem seat is pretty safe now.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
nick robinson talking up the tories, thats unusual eh
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
They don't have to trust the Tories, just fear Ed Milliband getting in.
Unless the Labour Party get rid of Ed and go on the front foot over Europe, given the 'positive' economic position (unless you happen to be poor) then it's a clear majority Tory Govt next time.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I agree - and they can specifically be happy that Labour haven't got 28%+ Labour may still have the most seats in 2015, but they've slipped back this week.
JimW
支那暗杀团
But Tories still fewer votes than last time when they had no majority, surely?
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
FFS, he's just talking the game. You might as well accuse him of talking up parliamentary democracy.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
lib dems now have a gap of 8000 above both Labour and Tory for the 10th slot in the South East, looks like they might hang on to a seat down there, unless there's a big labour or tory supporting area to come in.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The tories have dropped that 'vote UKP, get Labour" line...when they saw how many former Lab voters were in there and how many actually preferred at labour victory.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
There will be leakage back to labour too - a large chunk of that UKIP vote today is labour too. People prepared to protest vote in a second order election but not a general election. And people aren't voting solely, or even mostly over europe - a european election is just a handy opportunity to openly state their disgust with the status quo. It doesn't mean their genera election voting behaviour will be motivated by getting a referendum on the eu. That is well down the list of voting priorities.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
No, I don't think so because of the collapse of the Lib Dems, or rather that transient support they had last time following Nick's public speaking triumphs.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
I wouldn't go that far, because of the lack of boundary changes. If I was forced to put a bet on 12 months out, it might be something like 'Lab gain most seats but with no majority, Cons get more votes'.
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