16yr old boy shot dead in Stockwell
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hiraethified
Teenage boys and knives don't go too well together either:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1277091,00.html
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1277091,00.html
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
editor said:Breaking news now. Apparently it was in the early hours of this morning.
Any idea where or how this happened? Pub, club, boy's home, street?
Hope it's not another case of mistaken identity
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
editor said:
Group of youths on bicycles
Well that's not going to narrow it down much
grubby local
tapir wanker
am googling but i cant find a map of cassell house , it must be yards from where i am ... anyone help locate it? (cross streets?)
editor
hiraethified
Picture of block here: http://www.loot.com/advert/apartment--london--sw9/14904874
editor
hiraethified
It's right by the station: http://tinyurl.com/2xunbo
grubby local
tapir wanker
so its just on the left, visible from stockwell road, up near the tube?
gx
gx
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
editor said:
Morals? Don't you mean guts?
Chairman Meow
Perth, WA
I lived in Stockwell in 1992. It scared the shit out of me, everybody that lived in my house was mugged except me - some of the blokes several times. Seems like its got even worse. That poor kid.
That poor kid.It looks to me like it's the flats that are directly behind the Swan. I used to live in Stockwell for about Twelve years or so, just off Lansdowne Way and the community of Stockwell will certainly be looking for answers to do with this. The Station area and and surrounding bus stops are still extremely busy at this time of the evening, so there must have been witnesses ... Its like you said though.. Morals, Guts, .... Guilt !!
editor
hiraethified
Some poor mother's life has just been destroyed and a whole family left distraught because of these fucking bandanna-toting wannabe gangsta twats.
The only good thing is that one of their mates is almost certain to fess up the culprit sooner or later because these cowardly cunts will soon start boasting about their great 'achievement' and how 'tough' their mob is.
The only good thing is that one of their mates is almost certain to fess up the culprit sooner or later because these cowardly cunts will soon start boasting about their great 'achievement' and how 'tough' their mob is.
it has been reported that a lot of the 'kids' that have been murdered have been in some way involved in gang related violence themselves. i'm not saying they deserve to be killed but if that's the lifestyle they aspire to then they must expect at some point to be the victims of serious incidents like this
gaijingirl
Well-Known Member
dtb said:
I'm not sure why you say 'kids' in inverted commas. They are kids - that's what makes this so shit. I see kids on my estate acting all big, swearing, smoking, behaving really badly and I do feel angry by their behaviour, but then I'll see them playing football with each other, mucking about and you realise - they're so young, they're not inherently bad (at least I don't believe that to be the case). I also would question why they aspire to that kind of lifestyle?
It's just fucking shit - for everyone.
grubby local
tapir wanker
yeah you should report shite like that gabi, hassle or no ....
i had a mooch around there just after news broke, large crime scene area, cops, press, hundles of kids here and there, not much to report ...
i've lived in stockwell estate on and off over 7 years ... it goes in waves of shite and ok .... junkies on the stairwell, had a mad machete-weilding twat live next door, mates girlfriend mugged and beaten, al-queda house discovered opposite, loadsa boom-boom lads roamin about. I do a bit of community voluntary stuff to keep my hand in whats goin on - which is basically just trying to keep a lid on it here and there, showing the wannabees what proper ganglife is (from my time in brazil) and scaring the shit out of em .... dunno what else to do really ...
gx
edited to say: obv i wasnt in a gang
hehe.
i had a mooch around there just after news broke, large crime scene area, cops, press, hundles of kids here and there, not much to report ...
i've lived in stockwell estate on and off over 7 years ... it goes in waves of shite and ok .... junkies on the stairwell, had a mad machete-weilding twat live next door, mates girlfriend mugged and beaten, al-queda house discovered opposite, loadsa boom-boom lads roamin about. I do a bit of community voluntary stuff to keep my hand in whats goin on - which is basically just trying to keep a lid on it here and there, showing the wannabees what proper ganglife is (from my time in brazil) and scaring the shit out of em .... dunno what else to do really ...
gx
edited to say: obv i wasnt in a gang
hehe.
dtb said:
I think the point is that gangs start carrying guns to protect themselves against the other gangs carrying guns.. its a self perpetuating cycle. They know they prolly will get shot.. that the massive problem. Its kill or be killed unfortunatley. As well as being fecking losers they are prolly also really scared..
I live in Stockwell but on the t'other side of the road a bit further down. Have to walk through an estate to get home though. I'm not usually one for taking any notice of gang killing but I'll defo be looking at different route when it starts to get dark at night again..
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Shootings these days aren't always necessarily gang-related - often they arise out of a silly little argument
Orang Utan said:Shootings these days aren't always necessarily gang-related - often they arise out of a silly little argument
Well, there was a group of kids, otherwise known as a gang... I'm sure the kid they shot also belonged to another friendship group, also known as a gang. They may not be 'rivals' in a kinda Sharks v Jets kinda way but you can bet that they knew the kid they shot... not like they were after him for his lap top and briefcase, really..
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
What I mean is that in the past shootings tended to be restricted to turf wars between drugs 'gangs' rather than just scrapping bunches of teens
PacificOcean
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Chairman Meow said:I lived in Stockwell in 1992. It scared the shit out of me, everybody that lived in my house was mugged except me - some of the blokes several times. Seems like its got even worse.
This is now described as being "Edgy and Vibirant"
This is from PA newswire
Residents spoke about hearing what they thought was fireworks in the early
hours of the morning.
Mother-of-three Nasima Khatun, who has lived on the estate for around 20-years,
said in summer there were often up to 40 people who would hang around.
She said police were called to the area nearly every day and the council had
put up a road block at one entrance to prevent cars being driven on to the
estate.
"We are scared. We have told the council about it so many times but there's
nothing they can do.
"I have got a 16-year-old son and I am very, very worried about him.
"He doesn't often go out as he's frightened to walk the streets around here,"
she said.
Zoe Searle, 15, who was visiting her grandmother who lives on the estate said
there were two rival gangs in the area, one from Stockwell and the so-called
Bloodset gang from neighbouring Brixton.
She said last bonfire night the two rival gangs had a fireworks fight on the
estate.
"My nan thought it was fireworks but I knew it was gun shots," she said.
She said there was no sign of trouble in the hours leading up to the shooting.
"It was really quiet, it was empty, no one was around," she said.
A 40-year-old man who gave his name as Tony said he heard a series of shots
just after midnight, and saw a group of around five young men on bikes cycle
casually away from the estate.
All the men who were in their late teens or early 20s, had their faces covered
and were wearing hooded tops.
He said he saw a shadow on the floor but did not realise it was a body until
police and paramedics arrived.
Tony said tension on the estate had been building for the past five years with
drug and gang-related problems on the rise.
"They have got a name for this place, it's Hot Spot. If you want something
like drugs you go to Hot Spot as the kids call it," he said.
He said the area was so notorious it was mentioned on the internet as a place
to buy drugs and young men wore hooded tops with Hot Spot and SW9 printed on
them.
Tony said there had been CCTV in the area but one camera, attached to a
lamppost, was recently taken down.
"What they do is smash the lights so no one can see what they are doing," he
said.
He said the majority of people who hang around the estate come in from other
areas of south London such as Streatham and Peckham.
"I have a 16-year-old son and a 13-year-old daughter and I am terrified for
them. It's a frightening atmosphere for kids to grow up in."
Earlier this year Tony said two men had been seen on the estate, one with a
double barrelled shotgun and one with a hand gun, but they had run off before
police arrived.
"It's an everyday thing to us. While it's sad and you send your condolences to
the family who have lost an important member of the family, to the majority of
people this has been expected. It was just a matter of time," Tony said.
A 16-year-old girl who did not want to be named said she had heard the shooting
was linked to an argument that broke out at Brockwell Park fair at the weekend.
She said there was rivalry between Herne Hill and Stockwell gangs.
The girl said she had also seen a group of about five or six hooded young men
cycle away from the estate before paramedics arrived and tried to resuscitate
the boy. She said she had watched from the balcony as armed police cordoned off
the car park and the boy was driven away in an ambulance.
Residents spoke about hearing what they thought was fireworks in the early
hours of the morning.
Mother-of-three Nasima Khatun, who has lived on the estate for around 20-years,
said in summer there were often up to 40 people who would hang around.
She said police were called to the area nearly every day and the council had
put up a road block at one entrance to prevent cars being driven on to the
estate.
"We are scared. We have told the council about it so many times but there's
nothing they can do.
"I have got a 16-year-old son and I am very, very worried about him.
"He doesn't often go out as he's frightened to walk the streets around here,"
she said.
Zoe Searle, 15, who was visiting her grandmother who lives on the estate said
there were two rival gangs in the area, one from Stockwell and the so-called
Bloodset gang from neighbouring Brixton.
She said last bonfire night the two rival gangs had a fireworks fight on the
estate.
"My nan thought it was fireworks but I knew it was gun shots," she said.
She said there was no sign of trouble in the hours leading up to the shooting.
"It was really quiet, it was empty, no one was around," she said.
A 40-year-old man who gave his name as Tony said he heard a series of shots
just after midnight, and saw a group of around five young men on bikes cycle
casually away from the estate.
All the men who were in their late teens or early 20s, had their faces covered
and were wearing hooded tops.
He said he saw a shadow on the floor but did not realise it was a body until
police and paramedics arrived.
Tony said tension on the estate had been building for the past five years with
drug and gang-related problems on the rise.
"They have got a name for this place, it's Hot Spot. If you want something
like drugs you go to Hot Spot as the kids call it," he said.
He said the area was so notorious it was mentioned on the internet as a place
to buy drugs and young men wore hooded tops with Hot Spot and SW9 printed on
them.
Tony said there had been CCTV in the area but one camera, attached to a
lamppost, was recently taken down.
"What they do is smash the lights so no one can see what they are doing," he
said.
He said the majority of people who hang around the estate come in from other
areas of south London such as Streatham and Peckham.
"I have a 16-year-old son and a 13-year-old daughter and I am terrified for
them. It's a frightening atmosphere for kids to grow up in."
Earlier this year Tony said two men had been seen on the estate, one with a
double barrelled shotgun and one with a hand gun, but they had run off before
police arrived.
"It's an everyday thing to us. While it's sad and you send your condolences to
the family who have lost an important member of the family, to the majority of
people this has been expected. It was just a matter of time," Tony said.
A 16-year-old girl who did not want to be named said she had heard the shooting
was linked to an argument that broke out at Brockwell Park fair at the weekend.
She said there was rivalry between Herne Hill and Stockwell gangs.
The girl said she had also seen a group of about five or six hooded young men
cycle away from the estate before paramedics arrived and tried to resuscitate
the boy. She said she had watched from the balcony as armed police cordoned off
the car park and the boy was driven away in an ambulance.
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