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durruti02

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Ok there was some discussion here
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=294159&highlight=extremism

but this is getting potentially very serious .. not only do we have the below sites there are now over 30 club based Casuals United sites with hundreds of members .. the politics is angry and frustrated e.g. this from the WDL

"A group dedicated to protecting the interests of Welsh people.

From exposing paedophiles, to protesting about Terrorists in our midst, its time the Taffies stood up to be counted.

We are a peaceful protest group, and will organise mass protests when and where needed to protect our people from abuse and having the piss taken out of them.

This is not a racist/Nazi group and those people are not wanted here.

We want normal people who are fed up with having the piss taken out of them and are ready to unite and stand up to be counted.

Our forefathers didnt fight off the Germans and give their lives so we could let a load of foreigners of a certain religion (i wont name it as id probably get arrested) come into our country, then give them money so they can sit around planning to bomb us, poison us or otherwise kill us. They would turn in their graves at a country that after terror attacks instead of throwing these people out, passes laws that mean British people who insult them can be jailed. What have we become? Every day we hear that terrorists have been caught working airside in airports, and at Cardiff airport, all the trainee aircraft technicians are of arab descent. How long before a tragedy happens there?"

IN LEAGUE WITH CASUALS UNITED WE HAVE A LOT OF PROTESTS SET UP AROUND THE COUNTRY AND PEOPLE OF ALL RACES ARE WELCOME TO JOIN US


I think this demands some serious thought . the demo on the 8th in Brum is happenning and UAF have called a counter demo .. this is POTENTIALLY disasterously counter productive

while it is clear that there are BNP and fascists within EDL/BCAME/CU it is also clear the many of the admins are NOT associated with BNP .. it is also clear there are millions of increasingly angry and frustrated white .. and with good reason .. but who in classic fashion are picking on a scapegoat INSTEAD of the real powers

and in the same way, that as ALWAYS, you do NOT change peoples minds by shouting slogans particularly here we must not allow it to be seen that hundreds of white youth are opposed by the left and attacked for being fascist .. because that will SURELY push them into the arms of the BNP

i have more info if anyone wants to pm me

British Citizens against Muslim extremists

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=533860939&ref=profile#/group.php?gid=107676721904&ref=mf

English & Welsh Defence League: British citizens against Sharia Law

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=533860939&ref=profile#/event.php?eid=112121489240

Casuals United

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=107676721904&ref=mf&__a=1#/group.php?gid=98350156121&ref=ts

Welsh Defence League Incorporating Casuals United

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=107676721904&ref=mf&__a=1#/group.php?gid=43286850802&ref=mf


 
They're all fucking Facebook sites. They're meaningless. Any twat can make up 100 profiles in a day and sign them all up to their own 'campaign' site. People will sign up to any old shit on Facebook and the day that people start mistaking small Facebook groups as some sort of barometer of political movement in the UK is a fucking sad one.

Fuck knows why you're giving them the oxygen of publicity here.
 
durruti02 said:
I think this demands some serious thought . the demo on the 8th in Brum is happenning and UAF have called a counter demo .. this is POTENTIALLY disasterously counter productive
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bollocks, they're a bunch oif racist fuckwits, most of whom probably ARE in the BNP but who think it makes more sense to pretend not to be. there is absolutely no way you can honestly say it is 'clear the many of the admins are NOT associated with BNP' - not unless you are one of those admins, which i doubt.

It's a racist rally, and 'durutti' thinks it should be allowed to happen without opposition.
 
editor said:
They're all fucking Facebook sites. They're meaningless. Any twat can make up 100 profiles in a day and sign them all up to their own 'campaign' site. People will sign up to any old shit on Facebook and the day that people start mistaking small Facebook groups as some sort of barometer of political movement in the UK is a fucking sad one.

Fuck knows why you're giving them the oxygen of publicity here.
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excuse me? :D they are just the face books .. i don't have all their private groups but we know they exist, as i am sure you know, the soul crew have theirs

this group has already pulled a number of stunts .. pulling several hundred in brum in July and doing stunts in Whitechapel and Wood Green .. they are likely to get maybe a thousend out in Brum on the 8th Sept as they have timed it for the football .. if you can not see the danger in all this you are frankly daft mate .. this has a potential to turn VERY nasty







 
belboid said:
bollocks, they're a bunch oif racist fuckwits, most of whom probably ARE in the BNP but who think it makes more sense to pretend not to be. there is absolutely no way you can honestly say it is 'clear the many of the admins are NOT associated with BNP' - not unless you are one of those admins, which i doubt.

It's a racist rally, and 'durutti' thinks it should be allowed to happen without opposition.
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classic belboid! .. have you looked into this? NO! so shut up till you have ok? you clearly don't understand facebook either ;)
 
i understand it better than you eejit.

when are you gonna change your name btw? the original durutti was actually an anti-fascist, not someone who kept squealing 'ooh, they've got a point you know'
 
durruti02 said:
excuse me? :D they are just the face books .. i don't have all their private groups but we know they exist, as i am sure you know, the soul crew have theirs

this group has already pulled a number of stunts .. pulling several hundred in brum in July and doing stunts in Whitechapel and Wood Green .. they are likely to get maybe a thousend out in Brum on the 8th Sept as they have timed it for the football .. if you can not see the danger in all this you are frankly daft mate .. this has a potential to turn VERY nasty







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Don't do lists of unexplained YouTube links, sorry.
 
belboid said:
bollocks, they're a bunch oif racist fuckwits, most of whom probably ARE in the BNP but who think it makes more sense to pretend not to be. there is absolutely no way you can honestly say it is 'clear the many of the admins are NOT associated with BNP' - not unless you are one of those admins, which i doubt.
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"Where is there to start im writing this now after a ginuine new start..............I am 18 (Have it!) Im 6,2, Im half English and half Trinidadian And i am very proud of my heritage!. .. Havent made my mind up yet, but im liking Lib dems. All i know is that Bnp and nf can Fuck themselfs" Casual United admin or tell me why two others have the same bengali muslim 'friend' .. this is more compliated than you want it to be
 
durruti02 said:
"Where is there to start im writing this now after a ginuine new start..............I am 18 (Have it!) Im 6,2, Im half English and half Trinidadian And i am very proud of my heritage!. .. Havent made my mind up yet, but im liking Lib dems. All i know is that Bnp and nf can Fuck themselfs"
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you're not really that gullible are you?
 
tar1984 said:
They sound like twats.
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They do. But they are also 'twats' who are willing to organise and engage in street demonstrations in not only a confrontational manner but in places that would be best defined as 'enemy' territory.

Slate them as much as you want if it makes you feel better about yourselves but it strikes me that the fact that a predominantely working class 'movement' can emerge and the only arguement the left can have is about whether to oppose them or not says it all.

Maybe the left should be looking to engage with them. Ooops, silly me. Its working class white people involved. Not really the lefts cup of tea is it ?
 
durruti02 said:
just fuck off .. the geeza is in all the vids .. don't chat shit about what you know nothing
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having just watched the whitechapel & brum vids, there doesnt appear to be anyone who might fit that description there (unless they're narrating, no sound on here).

Even if there is, one token hardly changes anything, the BNP often use a sikh bloke to attack muslims in their ppb's, that doesnt make a difference does it?

This is a racist demonstration, called by racists, with an explicitly racist agenda. you dont think it should be opposed, even tho the whole thing has the 'potential to turn very nasty'
 
belboid said:
to prove you're a bigger better person? to show you have a clue? i dunno, i expect you wont
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belboid you know nothing about me .. fuck all .. IF you are serious about this please discuss if not fuck off .. i have NO personal ego shit involved .. ask anyone who knows me .. i do not give a flying fuck about being a 'bigger better person'

it is simple if you wish to discuss these groups lets do so .. you may well be 100% right .. at this moment in time i think you are not

is this a deal? :)
 
belboid said:
having just watched the whitechapel & brum vids, there doesnt appear to be anyone who might fit that description there (unless they're narrating, no sound on here).

Even if there is, one token hardly changes anything, the BNP often use a sikh bloke to attack muslims in their ppb's, that doesnt make a difference does it?

This is a racist demonstration, called by racists, with an explicitly racist agenda. you dont think it should be opposed, even tho the whole thing has the 'potential to turn very nasty'
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he is sat down in the whitechapel vid .. but there are clearly BNP in here and on the lists ( have you joined and read all the comments yet? cos tbh until you have are you qualified to talk about them?
 
well, go on then, discuss. if tere shouldnt be a counter-demo to this racist shite, what should there be?

otherwise all you're doing is advertising a racist demo
 
belboid said:
well, go on then, discuss. if tere shouldnt be a counter-demo to this racist shite, what should there be?

otherwise all you're doing is advertising a racist demo
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you really are a twat sometimes belboid .. i am obviously NOT just advertising a racist demo but hey


and you know what i am not quite sure .. was actually hoping people could discuss it seriously .. let me turn it back to you ( i will answer better further on) .. ok you say quite clearly it is a racist rally "This is a racist demonstration, called by racists, with an explicitly racist agenda"

... therefore as an anti fascist YOU must support attacking it (and spion too) .. am i right in this?

personally i think that this is a provocation set up by BNP and other activists .. and to walk into it in the way they want us to would be disasterous .. what both the islamofascist and the bnp want is white ( and a few black) kids and asian kids fighting .. and the BNP who LOVE to see the anti fascists attacking these white kids .. that to me is the danger .. are you seriously telling me you 1) can not see this and 2) that it would be no different from attacking a nazi march

and please HAVE you read through these sites yet . as i say until you have i am not sure you know what you are talking about
 
a counter-demo HAS to include attacking it? not necesarilly. it can simply be a counter-demo, peacefully blocking the streets, making the police act in defense of racists 'rights'. Obviously if those racists choose to attack the counter-demo, there should be a proportinate response. Get them to expose themselves. ABC stuff really
 
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