Woolwich soldier killed (was "Did cops just shoot 2 dead in woolwich?")

[frogwoman]

Athos i guess theyre cowards because they're attacking someone who cant fight back, it's not a fair fight. And then they're saying it is because of religion, when they know full well the majority of muslims don't support what they're doing.

 

[Casually Red]

Where is your anti beheading campaign.

 

[IC3D]

Well my ingrained British attitude to beheading has really been turned on its head by Casually Red

 

[telbert]

Just like,them paki taxis drivers

Fuck???

 

[butchersapron]

nope, a coward is someone who is too afraid to carry out an act for which they would then almost certainly face serious and possibly fatal consequences. While almost everything else thats been said about them is correct cowardice isnt . Thats not any kind of tribute to them . Thats not to say they have some sort of virtuous bravery . They were fanatics who expected to die, not cowards .

That's why they were cowards. There was no sense of chance. Nothing, They were just going to walk all over over people to be brave you need to recognise something to be brave about. In the absence of that, they were and are cowards.

 

[savoloysam]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...iled-for-stabbing-10-year-old-Afghan-boy.html

Where's the media and public outrage about this then?

Oh he's just a 10 year old dust dweller, he was no "hero"

 

[Casually Red]

That's why they were cowards. There was no sense of chance. Nothing, They were just going to walk all over over people to be brave you need to recognise something to be brave about. In the absence of that, they were and are cowards.

good man

 

[kenny g]

Yeah,so much shittier than the nice ways.

Yes. I note your irony but being given no chance of defence or escape of a brutal ending is shit. I would far prefer to die fighting than being slaughtered.

 

[butchersapron]

Maybe they got tired of seeing people like themselves being murdered by the ruling classes, and decided to choose their own fate.

Dockerslads supports the islamic war, what grounds are you dying on?

 

[telbert]

nope, a coward is someone who is too afraid to carry out an act for which they would then almost certainly face serious and possibly fatal consequences. While almost everything else thats been said about them is correct cowardice isnt . Thats not any kind of tribute to them . Thats not to say they have some sort of virtuous bravery . They were fanatics who expected to die, not cowards .

Well obviously they were too afraid to carry out an act for which they would then almost certainly face serious ans possibly fatal consequences. Thats why they smashed him up in the air with a car and then attacked him once he was totally incapacitated.Death to a jihadist is not anything to fear.Attacking a man on the same level obviously is.

 

[telbert]

Yes. I note your irony but being given no chance of defence or escape of a brutal ending is shit. I would far prefer to die fighting than being slaughtered.

Sorry, you may be right.

 

[frogwoman]

Fuck???

i think it is a dig at likesfish's obsession with muslim taxi drivers lol

 

[telbert]

i think it is a dig at likesfish's obsession with muslim taxi drivers lol

Oh. k.

 

[Casually Red]

Yes. I note your irony but being given no chance of defence or escape of a brutal ending is shit. I would far prefer to die fighting than being slaughtered.

if you as a soldier were out to eliminate a target why on earth would you give that target an opportunity to either attack you or escape . I really dont understand this aspect of it . I do understand the anger and all the rest, just not this bit .

 

[butchersapron]

i think it is a dig at likesfish's obsession with muslim taxi drivers lol

Obsession? He said each and every asian taxi driver in the country was a legitimate target and should be attacked after something happened. Skin deep.

 

[Anudder Oik]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...iled-for-stabbing-10-year-old-Afghan-boy.html

Where's the media and public outrage about this then?

Oh he's just a 10 year old dust dweller, he was no "hero"

Where's the outrage eh, eh?

Of course people are appalled. Was he or was he not arrested by other army personell?

The 18 month sentence is another thing, though.

On a perception scale you've got to admit that things that happen closer to home are felt far more strongly by people because it is basically "closer to home". It gets tiresome seeing these comparisons all the time. It just doesn't work that way. What do they justify? That we are all hipocrites for not reacting the same to something that happens thousands of miles away?

It's basic common sense. If a house burns down a million miles away it doesn't effect you. If your neighbours house goes up, you notice it.

 

[frogwoman]

Obsession? He said each and every asian taxi driver in the country was a legitimate target and should be attacked after something happened. Skin deep.

I didn't see that but I knew he'd said some dodgy shit about them before.

 

[butchersapron]

if you as a soldier were out to eliminate a target why on earth would you give that target an opportunity to either attack you or escape . I really dont understand this aspect of it . I do understand the anger and all the rest, just not this bit .

You're not a soldier. These people were not soldiers.

 

[The39thStep]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...iled-for-stabbing-10-year-old-Afghan-boy.html

Where's the media and public outrage about this then?

Oh he's just a 10 year old dust dweller, he was no "hero"

Posts like this just about avoid any issue about the woolwich incident which in turn makes any meaningful discussion by the vast majority of people horrified and fearful about that incident extremely difficult.

 

[telbert]

if you as a soldier were out to eliminate a target why on earth would you give that target an opportunity to either attack you or escape . I really dont understand this aspect of it . I do understand the anger and all the rest, just not this bit .

They're not soldiers any more than i am.

 

[telbert]

Obsession? He said each and every asian taxi driver in the country was a legitimate target and should be attacked after something happened. Skin deep.

Fucking hell.

 

[Casually Red]

Well obviously they were too afraid to carry out an act for which they would then almost certainly face serious ans possibly fatal consequences. Thats why they smashed him up in the air with a car and then attacked him once he was totally incapacitated.Death to a jihadist is not anything to fear.Attacking a man on the same level obviously is.

thats why we have so many muslims just jumping off buildings , bridgesetc, cos theyre just not afraid of dying and just dont care .

what if theyd got an apache helicopter and dropped a missile on him from 5 miles away, that he never saw or heard coming . Would that make them cowards too ?

 

[butchersapron]

To be brave entails a risk. To you and to the people the family behind you. To make yourself a zombie is not brave. It is the most public cowardice abailible.

 

[Anudder Oik]

if you as a soldier were out to eliminate a target why on earth would you give that target an opportunity to either attack you or escape . I really dont understand this aspect of it . I do understand the anger and all the rest, just not this bit .

Here you are implying that the terrorist was somehow a soldier. Maybe you don't even realise you are saying it, but you are. Ultra leftist!

 

[butchersapron]

thats why we have so many muslims just jumping off buildings , bridgesetc, cos theyre just not afraid of dying and just dont care .

what if theyd got an apache helicopter and dropped a missile on him from 5 miles away, that he never saw or heard coming . Would that make them cowards too ?

Why would that change anything?

 

[Casually Red]

They're not soldiers any more than i am.

ok, if you were an insurgent deep deep behind enemy lines. Would you give your target the chance to get close to you and do you harm, or the chance to escape and identify you later . Just to be sporting .

 

[butchersapron]

ok, if you were an insurgent deep deep behind enemy lines. Would you give your target the chance to get close to you and do you harm, or the chance to escape and identify you later . Just to be sporting .

If you ain't?

 

[butchersapron]

ok, if you were an insurgent deep deep behind enemy lines. Would you give your target the chance to get close to you and do you harm, or the chance to escape and identify you later . Just to be sporting .

Then i chased the ustaha right out. What's for breakfast mum!?

 

[telbert]

thats why we have so many muslims just jumping off buildings , bridgesetc, cos theyre just not afraid of dying and just dont care .

what if theyd got an apache helicopter and dropped a missile on him from 5 miles away, that he never saw or heard coming . Would that make them cowards too ?

This is not what happened.Two cowardly fucking savages tried to decapitate an unarmed,totally unaware man in woolwich.After they smashed him up in the air with a car. Thats what happened.

 

[Casually Red]

Here you are implying that the terrorist was somehow a soldier. Maybe you don't even realise you are saying it, but you are. Ultra leftist!

no i wasnt . I was asking him why a soldier would allow an enemy the chance to do him harm if he could surprise him instead and ensure he wasnt harmed.