Wikileaks: Heroes of free speech or dangerous subversives?

[TopCat]

I don't think in any way that the celebration of the Wikileaks revelations and the undermining of Govts around the world should cloud the issue of the accusations against Assanage.

 

[Spymaster]

I said you couldnt say what you said...

You said:

... you said 'if all that I've read is true' - when that is physically impossible to be the case.

What you're saying here is that it's impossible for everything I've read to be true (presumably because I've read conflicting reports). Whereas it's quite clear to anyone with half a brain that this could be paraphrased as 'it seems clear to me that JA has a case to answer'.

But no! You pick up on an apparent semantically based contradiction in that there are conflicting reports so everything I've read can't possibly be true!

That's dickish behaviour, but bully for you!

And nothing to say about your other lie then?

Yaaawn. Which one would that be then, belboid?

 

[Spymaster]

I don't think in any way that the celebration of the Wikileaks revelations and the undermining of Govts around the world should cloud the issue of the accusations against Assanage.

At last some reason.

 

[dylans]

Stops using cunts tricks belboid, its really shitty behaviour.

Nothing new with this prick. He hurls around disgusting abuse like a chimp throwing his own shit. In the past he has called me a pimp, another poster a rapist. Who the fuck does he think he is spewing this shit out. What a first class wanker

 

[belboid]

You said:



What you're saying here is that it's impossible for everything I've read to be true (presumably because I've read conflicting reports). Whereas it's quite clear to anyone with half a brain that this could be paraphrased as 'it seems clear to me that JA has a case to answer'.

But no! You pick up on an apparent semantically based contradiction in that there are conflicting reports so everything I've read can't possibly be true!

That's dickish behaviour, but bully for you!

it is actually pointing out that your reading is selectiove and your final opinion based upon a partial reading, but thats probably a bit too complex for you.

Yaaawn. Which one would that be then, belboid?

where you lyingly said that I said the inverstaigations shouldnt be pursued, despite me repeatedly saying otherwise.

 

[smokedout]

* NEWSFLASH: The "mainstream sheep" couldn't give a fuck about anything other than who will win X Factor or who Amy Winehouse is flashing her tits at this week ... *

this wikileaks shit is x factor

 

[belboid]

Nothing new with this prick. He hurls around disgusting abuse like a chimp throwing his own shit. In the past he has called me a pimp, another poster a rapist. Who the fuck does he think he is spewing this shit out. What a first class wanker

Both in a very specific context. One which the mods found to be not unreasonble. You are proudly a friend of pimps (from your own mouth that) and (ashamedly) a user of sexual services. I think I know who the bigger wanker is, but thank you for your invaluable input.

 

[kyser_soze]

Can I just remind everyone who is wanking themselves into a frenzy over Assange that the actual person who leaked this stuff - Bradley Manning - is the real star of the show, and is unlikely to get an easy ride in a Swedish court and then possibly jail.

 

[TopCat]

Both in a very specific context. One which the mods found to be not unreasonble. You are proudly a friend of pimps (from your own mouth that) and (ashamedly) a user of sexual services. I think I know who the bigger wanker is, but thank you for your invaluable input.

bellend you play the cunts tricks regularly and you make yourself look like the biggest cunt of all.

 

[dylans]

Both in a very specific context. One which the mods found to be not unreasonble. You are proudly a friend of pimps (from your own mouth that) and (ashamedly) a user of sexual services. I think I know who the bigger wanker is, but thank you for your invaluable input.

I hope one day we will meet and you will get chance to repeat that vile shit to my face. Right before I bust your nose

 

[belboid]

Can I just remind everyone who is wanking themselves into a frenzy over Assange that the actual person who leaked this stuff - Bradley Manning - is the real star of the show, and is unlikely to get an easy ride in a Swedish court and then possibly jail.

No one is 'wanking', there's not really any need for that nonense is there? You are quite right about Manning (except it should be US court)

 

[xes]

Manning is a patsy.

Discuss

 

[belboid]

I hope one day we will meet and you will get chance to repeat that vile shit to my face. Right before I bust your nose

oh its the internet hardman again. Safely wanking off from the safety of your bedroom. Remember what happened last time you started this shit? Dont play such silly games, or you'll be banned again.

And, dont try and make this all about dylans (or about belboid) as all that does is stop any discussion about the actual topic. Unless, of course, that is what you want to do.

 

[smokedout]

my main concern is that Cher Lloyd is too contemporary for people to vote in the numbers necessary, she's already been up for elimination twice now don't forget

that combined with teenage girls voting in their millions means Cowell and One Direction are likely to walk it which will be a fucking travesty

 

[dylans]

oh its the internet hardman again. Safely wanking off from the safety of your bedroom. Remember what happened last time you started this shit? Dont play such silly games, or you'll be banned again.

And, dont try and make this all about dylans (or about belboid) as all that does is stop any discussion about the actual topic. Unless, of course, that is what you want to do.

you're the internet hardman posting disgusting libellous accusations about posters safe in the knowledge that you can't get the kicking you deserve.
Calling people rapists. Sex offenders. Pimps. You obnoxious piece of dogshit.

 

[TopCat]

oh its the internet hardman again. Safely wanking off from the safety of your bedroom. Remember what happened last time you started this shit? Dont play such silly games, or you'll be banned again.

And, dont try and make this all about dylans (or about belboid) as all that does is stop any discussion about the actual topic. Unless, of course, that is what you want to do.

You regularly play the internet hardman by making ridiculous accusations against posters who disagree with you, which you would never ever make in person. To keep things on topic, just try to play the ball not man eh?

 

[Spymaster]

where you lyingly said that I said the inverstaigations shouldnt be pursued..

Ok. You're mad. Really.

I said:

Why do you think these complaints should not be investigated?

That's a question, not a statement.

Anyway, it seems from other posts on this thread that you have form for this type of nonsense, so I'll disengage from you and leave other observers to make up their minds as to what has and hasn't been said.

 

[xes]

Anyway, peraonsl spats aside, I like the way the poll results are going

 

[belboid]

You need to learn to read. Understand what 'context' means. And I never even called you a pimp. I just asked if you were one

 

[kyser_soze]

Manning is a patsy.

Discuss

The USG wanted this stuff leaked, or at least significant amounts of it. For some purpose yet to be revealed - maybe to force some nations into making statements about things they'd rather be QT about? China re: Korean reunification, or the unanimous support in the ME for 'doing something' about Iran...

Belb - sorry, that wasn't a clear sentence re: jail. I meant to imply that, if JA is convicted, he will be convicted in a Swedish court, and be subject to the Swedish penal system, as opposed to Manning who will face a US Military court martial, and a miltary jail.

 

[Spymaster]

you're the internet hardman posting disgusting libellous accusations about posters safe in the knowledge that you can't get the kicking you deserve.
Calling people rapists. Sex offenders. Pimps. You obnoxious piece of dogshit.

Leave it, Dylans. He's a twat, and that's obvious to anyone who's reading the thread.

 

[belboid]

Why do you think these complaints should not be investigated?

includes the statement that I thinik the complaints should not be investigated. If I asked 'why do you think Assange does not have a case to answer?' the implication is that you dont think he jhas a case to asnwer. Basic english. Try it sometime

But now you're going to run away again, like liars usually do.

 

[TopCat]

Anyway, the accusations may well be complete bollocks and the timing is suspicious for sure. It could not be more so eh? As for th two accusers being members of the Pirate Party, well I would be surprised if said Pirate party is not three Pirates and 100's of govt stooges. That said, the disection of the accusations and the endless speculation of the motives of the accusers is causing many to lose sight of concepts like justice.

 

[dylans]

You need to learn to read. Understand what 'context' means. And I never even called you a pimp. I just asked if you were one

And what context justifies you calling other posters "rapists" or potential sex offenders.? Why don't you just behave civilly or better still just fuck off ?

 

[dylans]

Leave it, Dylans. He's a twat, and that's obvious to anyone who's reading the thread.

Yeah you are right. It's about time I put him on ignore anyway.He makes my skin crawl.

 

[belboid]

You regularly play the internet hardman by making ridiculous accusations against posters who disagree with you, which you would never ever make in person. To keep things on topic, just try to play the ball not man eh?

Sorry, I really dont want to carry this nonsense on. But this is not true. I do not make accusations such as that. The phrases dylans choose to deliberately misquote were very context specific, and understood as such in the threads. He has chosen to misreprestent them because he got his arse kicked.

 

[belboid]

Yeah you are right. It's about time I put him on ignore anyway.He makes my skin crawl.

go on then, you only make up the things I've 'said' anyway.

Good company you're keeping tho, first LocknLight n now this knob! By their friends shall ye know them

 

[Streathamite]

And that the rest of the time they do need it because they are managing international relations, etc. in the best way they can ...

why should anyone - you, me, anyone, subscribe to this official line uncritically, when all that we know is that it absolutely suits the purposes of those in power for us to do so?

 

[Spymaster]

includes the statement that I thinik the complaints should not be investigated. If I asked 'why do you think Assange does not have a case to answer?' the implication is that you dont think he jhas a case to asnwer. Basic english. Try it sometime

But now you're going to run away again, like liars usually do.

Mental.

 

[belboid]

Belb - sorry, that wasn't a clear sentence re: jail. I meant to imply that, if JA is convicted, he will be convicted in a Swedish court, and be subject to the Swedish penal system, as opposed to Manning who will face a US Military court martial, and a miltary jail.

very true, even now, I'd rather be in Assanges position than Mannings. That man is seriously fucked.