Why the Guardian is going down the pan!

[PR1Berske]

 

[Serge Forward]

More utter shite from the Guardian. Saying "sofa" rather than "settee" is the end of the class system How much did Beddington get for writing such guff? Is the British obsession with class starting to wane?

 

[Sue]

More utter shite from the Guardian. Saying "sofa" rather than "settee" is the end of the class system How much did Beddington get for writing such guff? Is the British obsession with class starting to wane?

What does 'couch" signify..?

 

[Serge Forward]

What does 'couch" signify..?

Toff maybe? I used to work in the upholstery trade. Sofa and settee were not the same thing.

 

[two sheds]

Couch now signifies something extremely unpleasant involving JD Vance

 

[frogwoman]

Nostalgic Trump wheels out the hits at what could be an end-of-season finale

A rare moment of wistful self-reflection on the last day of campaigning in the US election gave way to trademark rants and insults

www.theguardian.com

Weirdly pro-Trump 'reminiscence' here.

 

[brogdale]

Bless

 

[PTK]

Toff maybe? I used to work in the upholstery trade. Sofa and settee were not the same thing.

What is the difference between a sofa and a settee?

 

[Serge Forward]

What is the difference between a sofa and a settee?

When I was a 16 year old apprentice upholsterer back in the 70s, I was told that a settee had two armrests on each side, with separate cushions, whether 2 or 3 seats. A sofa was pretty much everything else, from a chaise longue to other couches with the stuffing integral (rather than with separate cushions). On my first day, I got a telling for referring to a settee as a sofa. I also got a slagging for coming to work with a copy of the Sun (I didn't know any better).

 

[PTK]

When I was a 16 year old apprentice upholsterer back in the 70s, I was told that a settee had two armrests on each side, with separate cushions, whether 2 or 3 seats. A sofa was pretty much everything else, from a chaise longue to other couches with the stuffing integral (rather than with separate cushions). On my first day, I got a telling for referring to a settee as a sofa. I also got a slagging for coming to work with a copy of the Sun (I didn't know any better).

I did not know that.

 

[two sheds]

I'd thought the settee was a posh version of a sofa but clearly not.

 

[stavros]

What is the difference between a sofa and a settee?

Ask JD Vance.

 

[two sheds]

his affair was with a couch

 

[Serge Forward]

I'd thought the settee was a posh version of a sofa but clearly not.

Maybe now in some quarters, but in the upholstery trade 40-odd years ago, it didn't have that meaning.

Anyway, don't get me started or before long I'll be banging on about the benefits of draylon or leathercloth (we didn't do real leather) then switching topic to the difference between cobbles and setts.

 

[danny la rouge]

I was told that a settee had two armrests on each side

Two armrests on each side? So four armrests?

 

[Serge Forward]

Two armrests on each side? So four armrests?

One on each side

 

[danny la rouge]

One on each side

Make your mind up!

 

[Serge Forward]

Make your mind up!

Bucks Fizz?

 

[DaveCinzano]

Two armrests on each side? So four armrests?

How much is that in candles?

 

[PTK]

Bucks Fizz?

No, bucks do not fizz.

 

[ouirdeaux]

the difference between cobbles and setts

I know about that! Although I only learnt it a few weeks ago.

 

[redsquirrel]

Maybe now in some quarters, but in the upholstery trade 40-odd years ago, it didn't have that meaning.

Anyway, don't get me started or before long I'll be banging on about the benefits of draylon or leathercloth (we didn't do real leather) then switching topic to the difference between cobbles and setts.

I'd be up for having a sofa thread about sofas (and all related furniture)

 

[Serge Forward]

I'd be up for having a sofa thread about sofas (and all related furniture)

We could call it something like "get stuffed" or "settee or not settee; that is the question" or even "(some) sofas are cunts". Then drop it in Suburban so I can avoid it.

 

[JimW]

We always called it the settee growing up and definitely weren't either posh or experts at the difference.

 

[ska invita]

Has anyone actually ever used the word 'awks'..? Apart from people trying to be down with the kids in the Guardian.

yeah its so cringe daddio

 

[andysays]

We could call it something like "get stuffed" or "settee or not settee; that is the question" or even "(some) sofas are cunts". Then drop it in Suburban so I can avoid it.

So Far So Good...

 

[DotCommunist]

sofa if you're down south, settee up north. Interchangeable here in the midlands

 

[brogdale]

sofa if you're down south, settee up north. Interchangeable here in the midlands

Maybe over generalised; in East Kent (the deep South) we only ever referred to the settee (in the front room).

 

[isvicthere?]

What does 'couch" signify..?

I think something more "American" seems, to some, to suggest less obvious class distinction.

For example, in the '70s at my school, a male adult was called a "bloke". However, there was someone in our year who insisted on the, even then, archaic "chap." Obviously, he was roundly pilloried for being "poncey" and trying to sound "posh."

Around this time, it was slowly becoming more common, to use "guy" instead; which may have been rejected by some (e.g. me) for being fake American. But it didn´t contain the obvious class divisions inherent in the bloke/chap divide.

 

[Serge Forward]

I think something more "American" seems, to some, to suggest less obvious class distinction.

For example, in the '70s at my school, a male adult was called a "bloke". However, there was someone in our year who insisted on the, even then, archaic "chap." Obviously, he was roundly pilloried for being "poncey" and trying to sound "posh."

Around this time, it was slowly becoming more common, to use "guy" instead; which may have been rejected by some (e.g. me) for being fake American. But it didn´t contain the obvious class divisions inherent in the bloke/chap divide.

What about fella?