Why the Guardian is going down the pan!

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Depends on definition of cartoons. Hogarth's Rakes Pr ogress and Beer Street, Gin Lane instantly spring to mind ( I have a big soft spot for Hogarth ).

 

[Silas Loom]

Gin lane occurred to me just after posting - would expect to spot a pastiche (vape street and spice lane?) at 50 paces.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Depends on definition of cartoons. Hogarth's Rakes Pr ogress and Beer Street, Gin Lane instantly spring to mind ( I have a big soft spot for Hogarth ).

Zec's 'The Price of Petrol', Tenniel's 'Dropping the Pilot',

 

[8ball]

From a report on Brand we have this gem, screenshot before they correct it

Russell Brand: broadcasters launch investigations into abuse allegations

BBC, Channel 4 and Amnesty gathering evidence on claims of harassment and rape between 2006 and 2013

www.theguardian.com

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Ha! I didn’t even notice “Twitter founder” at first.

This is how these things wind up being accepted as truth.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Ha! I didn’t even notice “Twitter founder” at first.

This is how these things wind up being accepted as truth.

I joined two years before that dickhead, does that make me a prefounder?

 

[two sheds]

certainly profounder

Eta: /realizes this is not much of a compliment

 

[PTK]

Good. Never funny, and his claims never to have intended offence looked less plausible each time he made them.

How is the cartoon anti-Jewish?

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Erm, no thanks.

Why we should all dig into poo – all you need is a spoon

Cowpats in a Cambridge meadow offer vital lessons in how a host of tiny creatures sustain our planet

www.theguardian.com

 

[Silas Loom]

How is the cartoon anti-Jewish?

I jumped to the same conclusion as Bell’s editors without having read their exchange.

 

[TopCat]

My sympathies are with the elephant.

The elephant I was riding threw me, then rolled over me like a steamroller. All my bones broke at once

Gemma Jones’s dream holiday left her with a crushed pelvis, ribs and collarbone – and changed her life for the better. Twenty years on, she remembers the attack that began with an ominous growl

www.theguardian.com

 

[Cerv]

if there was one demographic I would have thought would specifically seek cruelty-free elephant sanctuaries that don't do riding for tourists, I would have thought that was Guardian readers.
I know I did when I was in Thailand.

 

[Cerv]

I jumped to the same conclusion as Bell’s editors without having read their exchange.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that the intent was only to reference the LBJ cartoon, not Shylock.

but then either he was too blind to see that far more people would be familiar with the latter and interpret it that way, or he knew but went ahead anyway without changing things up. either way, can't see why the bosses would want to keep a liability like that on the payroll.

 

[TopCat]

if there was one demographic I would have thought would specifically seek cruelty-free elephant sanctuaries that don't do riding for tourists, I would have thought that was Guardian readers.
I know I did when I was in Thailand.

That’s a bit of the point really. The impeccable liberal credentials of many Guardian readers are veneer thin.

 

[Yossarian]

Making a dumb elephant-related mistake when you're a 24-year-old backpacker and switching from a career in HR to working with "patients in private and NHS practice, specialising in palliative care, pain management and psycho-oncology" doesn't seem like such a bad redemption arc.

Though this is a weird assertion:

Elephant attacks in Thailand are rare. The national parks department recorded 135 human fatalities between 2016 and 2022: an average of about 22 a year, despite approximately 3,800 “working” animals still kept in captivity today.

I don't think you can call elephant attacks "rare" when people are getting killed by elephants at a rate close to one every two weeks, unless you're from somewhere where people are getting trampled in the street by elephants on a daily basis

 

[DaveCinzano]

Though this is a weird assertion:

Elephant attacks in Thailand are rare. The national parks department recorded 135 human fatalities between 2016 and 2022: an average of about 22 a year, despite approximately 3,800 “working” animals still kept in captivity today.

I don't think you can call elephant attacks "rare" when people are getting killed by elephants at a rate close to one every two weeks, unless you're from somewhere where people are getting trampled in the street by elephants on a daily basis

There are around about 3,800 pupils enrolled in Chippenham's three secondary schools. I'm fairly sure that if on average 22 teachers were killed by them each year that would not be considered rare

 

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made her realise two things, Jones says: “Life can change in a heartbeat and you never see it coming, and there are points in life when we’re completely alone and powerless. You can’t escape those things – they are human problems – so what do you do? I wanted to understand how to work with that.”
Life can also teach you you should not ride elephants, which should have been the moral to the story.

 

[Pickman's model]

is this really the way for a serious newspaper to describe anyone?

 

[phildwyer]

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is this really the way for a serious newspaper to describe anyone?

A serious newspaper wouldn't do it.

 

[Pickman's model]

A serious newspaper wouldn't do it.

Exactly

 

[phildwyer]

Exactly

They just seem infantile to me, these journos. I expect everyone feels the same as they enter their 40s.

 

[krtek a houby]

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is this really the way for a serious newspaper to describe anyone?

It's far too mild

 

[hash tag]

A serious newspaper wouldn't do it.

Is there even such a thing as a serious newspaper anymore?

 

[Cerv]

The subheading of this article was amended on 26 October 2023 to correct a misspelling of Richard Roundtree’s name.

to not even spell someone’s name correctly in their obituary is just sad. no respect.

 

[PTK]

to not even spell someone’s name correctly in their obituary is just sad. no respect.

The Guardian was always famous for its misprints.

 

[hash tag]

The Guardian was always famous for its misprints.

"Was"? Is.

 

[PTK]

"Was"? Is.

The point I am making is that this is not necessarily a symptom of decline.

 

[Brainaddict]

If the guardian reported the Palestine demo yesterday I blinked and missed it. The biggest anti-war demo since the Iraq War and they've not featured it on the website front page that I can see.

 

[Chz]

Was near the top of my list, but I'm signed in and it's surely curating it a bit.

100,000 join London march against strikes on Gaza | Israel-Hamas war | The Guardian

Government’s failure to back ceasefire resolution adds to tensions among demonstrators

amp.theguardian.com

It was also, by most estimates, not any larger than last week's, so it suffers a bit from not being "new" enough.

 

[Dystopiary]

The headline often misrepresents the article, so I thought, go on then - surely this piece can't be as bad as it sounds, even for Polly Toynbee. It pretty much is.

She talks about how horrific the situation is for the people of Gaza. But then she says that Labour can't do anything about it so what's the point in them saying aught really. Can't be having any disagreement with Kid Starver. She's a disgrace.

What an irony if Labour damages its election chances by falling apart over something an opposition can’t influence.

Labour calling for a ceasefire would achieve nothing. So why should it tear itself apart over this?

 

[Pickman's model]

The Guardian was always famous for its misprints.

Now it's its misthinks