Why the Guardian is going down the pan!

[Pickman's model]

Not sure there's much need for a separate "why the Guardian isn't going the pan" thread just yet though...

it comes into the category of 'the things which stop the guardian flushing away' which belong on this thread

 

[magneze]

 

[pbsmooth]

It's been funny watching all the columnists churn out a Glastonbury piece presumably to jusifty the free ticket.

 

[Elpenor]

A rival to Chiles has emerged, producing equally tedious banality

The real magic of cinema? Two hours of escape – guaranteed – from work emails | Joel Snape

The big movie-house chains purport to sell a magical audience experience. Their real USP is far more down to earth, says writer and fitness expert Joel Snape

www.theguardian.com

 

[Brainaddict]

Observer rather than Guardian but this editorial has a quite astonishing (or would be to an outsider) level of acceptance that an unelected media oligarch decides who is or is not a serious contender in British politics: Champagne with Rupert Murdoch … Keir Starmer’s Labour is preparing for power

 

[magneze]

Observer rather than Guardian but this editorial has a quite astonishing (or would be to an outsider) level of acceptance that an unelected media oligarch decides who is or is not a serious contender in British politics: Champagne with Rupert Murdoch … Keir Starmer’s Labour is preparing for power

Stunning isn't it. The assumption that policy and votes don't matter. Just whether Murdoch summons you to his sofa.

Do the authors think this is reassuring?

 

[Brainaddict]

Stunning isn't it. The assumption that policy and votes don't matter. Just whether Murdoch summons you to his sofa.

Do the authors think this is reassuring?

I'm clearly a bit naive even after all these years because when I saw the title I thought there might be at least a smidgen of discomfort at the fact that champagne with Murdoch is what makes you a winner, but no. It's all fine, apparently.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Those aren't workers keeping the rain off their equipment/themselves/their hole, they're actually cost-conscious, space-restricted lifepreneurs freeing up their living space by adoption of innovative guerrilla street storage strategies

Blur review – glorious reunion buzzes with energy and ragged joy

The enduring friendship between Damon Albarn, Graham Coxon, Alex James and Dave Rowntree shines through in a set that veers from lairy capers to bittersweet ballads

www.theguardian.com

 

[hitmouse]

I realise it's a bit pointless just posting every time Adrian Chiles is Adrian Chiles, but this one really is a cracker of a headline, and doesn't seem to have been posted yet:

Psst! Want to buy some top-grade asparagus? My dad has the secret | Adrian Chiles

I’d long wondered where my father got his hands on fresh bunches of the finest spears, writes Adrian Chiles. Then one day he revealed all

www.theguardian.com

Even funnier when you get it with the "will you help support independent journalism?" pop-up.

 

[skyscraper101]

Those aren't workers keeping the rain off their equipment/themselves/their hole, they're actually cost-conscious, space-restricted lifepreneurs freeing up their living space by adoption of innovative guerrilla street storage strategies

"...PARKLIFE"

 

[Brainaddict]

Guardian being pretty scummy/ignorant/useless in publishing this ME/CFS guidance that discourages exercise is flawed, say researchers
Without setting in the context of these researchers being the leaders of a faction in the psychology profession against which ME/CFS patients have been fighting a decades-long war of attrition. At this point it's irresponsible to quote Chalder without being clear that (a) she is in the business of defending her position and after decades entrenched in that position is in no way capable of doing objective research on the issue and (b) The NICE guidance used to be dominated by her research until years of patients fighting back against it, which finally led to a reassessment, so obviously she disagrees with the new NICE guidance.

E2A: Also the Chalder crew managed to get this falsehood published as fact "Nice also downgraded all self-reported fatigue-related outcomes on grounds it was too subjective, even though there is no other means of establishing whether a treatment has worked." The latter is simply untrue. One objective way to measure fatigue-related outcomes is to use an activity monitor to see if the patient is able to do more exercise/exertion. When these are used it is shown that Chalder's methods don't work. So she reacts to that by lying about there being no objective methods and the guardian just publishes it. Grrrr.

 

[ska invita]

This is the best article I have read in the Guardian in years and years. Top stuff.

There are two kinds of antiracism. Only one works, and it has nothing to do with 'diversity training' | Arun Kundani

While liberal antiracists argue over vocabulary, radicals take direct action – which is the only way to change the system, says author Arun Kundnani

www.theguardian.com

interesting conversation with the author about the book, only half way through
probably deserves talking about on another thread though

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Sick of this Conservative government? That shouldn’t stop you having Tory friends | Rhymer Rigby

Self declared 'centrist' reckons being mates with Tories is fine, surprisingly enough.

 

[DotCommunist]

Listen up, critics: first let Labour win power. Then scrutinise its real record | Polly Toynbee

Of course Keir Starmer is cautious in the runup to an election – Labour can’t change Britain from the opposition benches, says Guardian columnist Polly Toynbee

www.theguardian.com

its toynbee, its always toynbee, with a defense of Kid Starver.

 

[pbsmooth]

 

[Rob Ray]

Possibly the worst thing Crace has ever written (no mean feat but this is some absolutely unforgivable lickspittling of that justice-dodging war criminal), and jfc that smug fucking photo ...

Blair and Starmer bask in each other’s reflected glory | John Crace

Current Labour leader and former Labour PM find validation in onstage love-in

www.theguardian.com

 

[ska invita]

Is there any reason this should be the lead story in the Guardian? Who the fuck cares what happens to Prigozhin, other than that he fucks off and dies? Get the feeling there's a sense of him being positioned as some kind of anti-putin freedom fighter for the west

 

[pbsmooth]

I guess if he's killed that's a good anti-Putin story, so worth checking he's alive for a while.

 

[Pickman's model]

I guess if he's killed that's a good anti-Putin story, so worth checking he's alive for a while.

depends who kills him and why doesn't it

 

[pbsmooth]

well yes. but now you mention it I think if he winds up dead some time soon, it's a story either way,

 

[Orang Utan]

Are online Guardian headlines presented algorithmically depending on what stories you’ve been reading? Cos I clicked on their site not long after ska invita posted the OP and the Prighozin story wasn’t the main headline

 

[flypanam]

The comment section usually delivers some gold especially in the ‘Look at me’ genre.

I was a homebody – but it turned out my happy-ever-after lay thousands of miles away | Rosemary Mac Cabe

I took up my sister’s offer to visit her in Indiana – where my life all came together, says the author Rosemary Mac Cabe

www.theguardian.com

 

[pbsmooth]

Guardian interview casually referring to Succession as the "greatest TV show of all time".
One of the most overrated of all time in my opinion.

 

[steeplejack]

Maybe unfortunate for Andrew Rawnsley that these headers appear side by side on the home page, even if his drivel richly merits the description "idiot"

 

[brogdale]

Might just be me, but....really?

 

[belboid]

Might just be me, but....really?

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Thats about right. Sales were 6.8% down, prices 14% up. 93.2*114=106.25 but the 14 is probably a couple of tenths higher than that.

 

[brogdale]

Thats about right. Sales were 6.8% down, prices 14% up. 93.2*114=106.25 but the 14 is probably a couple of tenths higher than that.

Fair enough; that's just me not understanding the difference between sales volume and sales growth, then.

We'll let them off on this one, then? Though they could, perhaps, have explained it a bit more clearly for the hard of thinking like myself.

 

[belboid]

What'd be the fun in that!

 

[Brainaddict]

You might expect from this article about a man of Indian heritage adopted into a white family and travelling around India for the first time that there be interesting reflections on identity and belonging. But no, his Indian identity is just something he never cared about and heritage doesn't matter to him. What he really liked was chasing Western women in Goa. Which I suppose is a real experience but it's not a very interesting one to write a column about is it? It seems he's a journo there, so he gets to write about his uninteresting experience.

A moment that changed me: I travelled to India – and discovered what really defines me

I was adopted as a baby and was hoping to answer the question of where I’m from. Instead, the trip reminded me of my deep love for my family

www.theguardian.com

 

[Serge Forward]

You might expect from this article about a man of Indian heritage adopted into a white family and travelling around India for the first time that there be interesting reflections on identity and belonging. But no, his Indian identity is just something he never cared about and heritage doesn't matter to him. What he really liked was chasing Western women in Goa. Which I suppose is a real experience but it's not a very interesting one to write a column about is it? It seems he's a journo there, so he gets to write about his uninteresting experience.

A moment that changed me: I travelled to India – and discovered what really defines me

I was adopted as a baby and was hoping to answer the question of where I’m from. Instead, the trip reminded me of my deep love for my family

www.theguardian.com

It's no less valid or interesting than the searches for "my true heritage" stories. I liked it.