Why the Guardian is going down the pan!

[Santino]

Passing the time, same as anyone else here I guess. You?

Same, but without being a sexist prick.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Passing the time, same as anyone else here I guess. You?

Seriously, read the room. And have a think about how you're behaving here.

 

[JTG]

Same, but without being a sexist prick.

I'm not a sexist prick

See, I reported what is a fairly common usage in my experience - yes, in my bubble, but what is also a geographically diverse, very much left (not liberal - left) leaning bubble. That some people don't agree doesn't really change the fact

The rest is throwaway fluff. It's Sunday night mate, I'm not taking this remotely seriously and nor should anyone else

 

[Santino]

Seriously, read the room. And have a think about how you're behaving here.

When women object to something, it's vital to scrutinise and probe their objection to make sure there're no possible holes in their logic. It's the best way to ensure they're not getting away with anything.

 

[Santino]

I'm not a sexist prick

See, I reported what is a fairly common usage in my experience - yes, in my bubble, but what is also a geographically diverse, very much left (not liberal - left) leaning bubble. That some people don't agree doesn't really change the fact

The rest is throwaway fluff. It's Sunday night mate, I'm not taking this remotely seriously and nor should anyone else

Can't take a joke, can they?

 

[JTG]

I'm secure in my views tbh Santino and I'm OK with how people irl see me. Project away if it makes you feel happier xx

 

[Steel Icarus]

#bantz

 

[equationgirl]

Nah, it's fine fella

You're being a dick. Well done you.

 

[equationgirl]

#bantz

It's always top bantz, or a joke, or women have no sense of humour...

 

[Santino]

It's always top bantz, or a joke, or women have no sense of humour...

It's only Sunday. You can't be sexist on a Sunday.

 

[Santino]

I might risk a few racist jokes before midnight.

 

[equationgirl]

It's only Sunday. You can't be sexist on a Sunday.

Shame I never got that memo...

 

[JTG]

OK, this is getting silly now

I'm well enough known by enough people here not to be worried about the daft accusations being thrown around

Have a great week all x

 

[equationgirl]

OK, this is getting silly now

I'm well enough known by enough people here not to be worried about the daft accusations being thrown around

Have a great week all x

Whatevs.

 

[Edie]

OK, this is getting silly now

I'm well enough known by enough people here not to be worried about the daft accusations being thrown around

Have a great week all x

You’re not well enough known. This has changed my opinion of you. I hadn’t realised you were such a prick. See ya later, close the door.

 

[BillRiver]

OK, this is getting silly now

I'm well enough known by enough people here not to be worried about the daft accusations being thrown around

Have a great week all x

If it walks like a ducks, quacks like a duck, posts like a prick...

 

[Santino]

OK, this is getting silly now

I'm well enough known by enough people here not to be worried about the daft accusations being thrown around

Have a great week all x

I CAN'T be sexist. I'm NICE!

 

[hitmouse]

When I saw the number of new posts I was wondering "huh, has the Guardian printed a lot of really controversial stuff lately?", was not really expecting this.

Interesting that these terms that are apparently used in a gender-neutral sense always seem to be the male version of that term.

Anyone know of any examples the other way round..?

Girl in Old English?

Chaucer used 'gyrl' in the General Prologue to his famous 'The Canterbury Tales' in 1387.
Back then, 'gyrl' meant a young person - a boy or a girl; the sex of the person wasn't important... In fact, if the writer needed to differentiate between the sex of the young person back in the 1300s, a qualifier would need to be added - a boy was called a 'knave girl', while a girl was called a 'gay girl'.

 

[killer b]

Crikey.

 

[hitmouse]

Terry Pratchett would have something to say about this, I bet.

 

[killer b]

shrugs is top ten in the 'annoying shit dickheads say on the Internet' charts btw

 

[krtek a houby]

Maybe it's just not that interesting, relevant, or even true?

It's true, though. Lads in Ireland isn't seen as derogatory or dismissive towards women. It's certainly not meant to be and pretty much all my women mates use it.

Now, that could be our generation. Maybe the younger are changing this and it will become a thing of the past...

But Irish culture and language won't be dictated to by British sensibilities. Change, if needed, will come from within.

 

[BillRiver]

It's true, though. Lads in Ireland isn't seen as derogatory or dismissive towards women. It's certainly not meant to be and pretty much all my women mates use it.

Now, that could be our generation. Maybe the younger are changing this and it will become a thing of the past...

But Irish culture and language won't be dictated to by British sensibilities. Change, if needed, will come from within.

Yeah, but my Irish mates say different. Just maybe, not everyone in Ireland thinks, or speaks, the same?

I'm 46, btw, and most of my mates in Ireland are 50+.

 

[krtek a houby]

Yeah, but my Irish mates say different. Just maybe, not everyone in Ireland thinks, or speaks, the same?

I'm 46, btw, and most of my mates in Ireland are 50+.

Of course. It's about cultural context and what works well for some won't be for everyone. As said above, it might well change - Ireland has become very capable of change in recent decades.

 

[BillRiver]

Of course. It's about cultural context and what works well for some won't be for everyone. As said above, it might well change - Ireland has become very capable of change in recent decades.

Indeed. Tangential but - have you seen the film "The 8th" ? It's in cinemas now and I highly recommend it. Incredibly moving, even knowing the ending (and a fair bit of the story) in advance.

 

[krtek a houby]

Indeed. Tangential but - have you seen the film "The 8th" ? It's in cinemas now and I highly recommend it. Incredibly moving, even knowing the ending (and a fair bit of the story) in advance.

Not sure it's even out here, yet but will make a note of it, cheers

 

[BillRiver]

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[billy_bob]

You’re not well enough known. This has changed my opinion of you. I hadn’t realised you were such a prick. See ya later, close the door.

This. It's formed my opinion of him.

 

[Edie]

This. It's formed my opinion of him.

Imagine being a woman and a man going to you ‘well I’m just going to call you by the collective name for men’ and you going ‘but I’d rather you didn’t cos I’m a woman ’ and him going ‘well tough shit lads’ I’m embarrassed for him

 

[Pickman's model]

OK, this is getting silly now

I'm well enough known by enough people here not to be worried about the daft accusations being thrown around

Have a great week all x

you've certainly presented your credentials now