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Why the Guardian is going down the pan!

I didn't say that it wasn't good, I said the pedestal his fans place him on is ludicrous. The kind of pedestal where people who don't think he's as wonderful as you do can be waved away as people who 'don't get it'
That's the kind of condescension that invites condescension in kind, not an invitation to live and let live.
 
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That's the kind of condescention that invites condescention in kind, not an invitation to live and let live.
Except you posted that I 'didn't get it' which was 'on me' before I posted the pedestal Pratchett fans place him on is ludicrous. Looks to me that I've got you guys fairly well pegged tbh.
 
is this true? I remember reading an interview with him many years ago where he was quite bitter at not being taken more seriously
If so then he has failed abjectly, like I said I'm a big fan but I definitely have never taken his work remotely seriously.
 
Except you posted that I 'didn't get it' which was 'on me' before I posted the pedestal Pratchett fans place him on is ludicrous. Looks to me that I've got you guys fairly well pegged tbh.
We posted at the same time, mine just got there slightly before yours. You weren't responding to my post. And I was responding to "thing you like is bad". If you're going to say "thing you like is bad", you're inviting a response.
 
Sure. And I was clarifying what I meant, while you were helpfully providing an example.
Right. You think it is "ludicrous" that people "put him on a pedestal". But also think that we should all agree to disagree. Got it.
 
Right. You think it is "ludicrous" that people "put him on a pedestal". But also think that we should all agree to disagree. Got it.

I quite often "agree to disagree" with people who think something that I find ludicrous. Precisely because I feel their opinion is too ludicrous to have an interesting or respectful debate about.
 
I don't think we should agree to disagree at all. I think disagreement is good and should be embraced and participated in passionately.
 
Agreeing to disagree isn't actually agreeing to disagree though, it's agreeing to stop arguing without a resolution. Which I suppose we'll do eventually anyway, but I'd rather do that out of boredom or something more important distracting me than some fake negotiated end of hostilities
 
I don't think everything Pratchett wrote was brilliant by any means. Some of the earlier ones are quite hardgoing, I found, but then he found his voice and they really take off. The Monstrous Regiment was particularly clever, and I really loved the ones about the witches and the town guards, and his few last books I really enjoyed (about the mint, the post office and the railways). The newspaper one was the last one I remember not liking.

So as with many authors I like, I don't think everything he wrote was pure genius. Not all fans place him on a pedestal killer b
 
It was the honour of my life (and I say that only semi-jokingly) to be able to dispatch the ambulance that took TP from Salisbury District Hospital back home for the last time (I assume - he died not too long afterwards). A life spent giving joy to millions and also giving tedious bores a chance to tell everyone how much more refined their tastes are so I think everyone here can be grateful to him for something anyway :cool:
 
Massive Pratchett fan myself, He has the odd off moment like all authors but for the most part, his books are funny and witty with some insightful comment on the state of the world presented with humour. He clearly wrote his books to entertain not change the world and he succeeded in the first and didn't aim for the second. None of them have transfered well to other media though all the TV adaptions have been pretty dire.
That's because they all seem to have been made by people who made the mistake of thinking they were making a fantasy story
 
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