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More on the subject of property: If a house price crash sounds like good news, you should think again | Gaby Hinsliff

Thesis, such as it is: a house price crash will end up "hurting those who can least afford it" (elderly people selling their houses to pay for care, and first time buyers, and, er, those are all the examples). As opposed to the current situation which clearly hurts nobody at all. Author obviously a property owner, how many is not disclosed.

It's not just the obvious selfishness, it's the laziness in disguising it - I could come up with better reasons why an unregulated house price crash would have negative impacts, and I want to see one.
 
Fuck me, in first with this absolute jaw dropper.

‘I took a huge salary hit so I can make my daughters my priority’

Synopsis: I work part time on 18k cos we’re fucking loaded and my husband pays all the bills and gives me a grands pocket money a month. This allows me to feel massively culturally superior to everyone else about spending time with my kids.

What fuckin planet?!!!!
Saw it earlier. Didn't read it. Didn't need to.

Your summary makes me glad I didn't.
 
Fuck me, in first with this absolute jaw dropper.

‘I took a huge salary hit so I can make my daughters my priority’

Synopsis: I work part time on 18k cos we’re fucking loaded and my husband pays all the bills and gives me a grands pocket money a month. This allows me to feel massively culturally superior to everyone else about spending time with my kids.

What fuckin planet?!!!!
Fuck me I want to kill people now.

As an aside does anyone else find the idea of a Husband giving his wife an allowance really shit?
 
I think most of us would be very happy to earn £18K working part-time with no bills and another non-taxable grand a month on top.
18k for two days work and all. That’s about 40+k FT! Not a bad little job! There’s plenty work 40 hours for 18k!

Honestly the fucking guardian. They go on about austerity and the nhs but they must represent what the top 5-10% of the population in income? It’s a weird kind of dissonance. Champagne socialism I guess.
 
Fuck me, in first with this absolute jaw dropper.

‘I took a huge salary hit so I can make my daughters my priority’

Synopsis: I work part time on 18k cos we’re fucking loaded and my husband pays all the bills and gives me a grands pocket money a month. This allows me to feel massively culturally superior to everyone else about spending time with my kids.

What fuckin planet?!!!!
That is a solid contributor to the "I'm not earning quite as much as I possibly could any more but we have a nice life and it's because I am so thrifty and virtuous" genre.

I like the fact that not only does she have an obviously loaded husband, she bought a flat for £50K which would basically be the deposit now, even in Lewisham, but that's all completely glossed over. Ignoring both income and property ladder.
 
18k for two days work and all. That’s about 40+k FT! Not a bad little job! There’s plenty work 40 hours for 18k!

Honestly the fucking guardian. They go on about austerity and the nhs but they must represent what the top 5-10% of the population in come? It’s a weird kind of dissonance. Champagne socialism I guess.
It's nothing to do with socialism. They're liberal Tories.
 
That is a solid contributor to the "I'm not earning quite as much as I possibly could any more but we have a nice life and it's because I am so thrifty and virtuous" genre.

I like the fact that not only does she have an obviously loaded husband, she bought a flat for £50K which would basically be the deposit now, even in Lewisham, but that's all completely glossed over. Ignoring both income and property ladder.
A masterpiece of the genre in many ways.

It’s kind of shocking that a newspaper can publish that in all honesty. Well I find it. It’s like someone boasting about their wealth with literally zero insight into how the vast majority live. A kind of Lifestyle ‘let them eat cake’.

It’s breathtakingly insensitive and you’ve got to wonder, do they (the guardian) just not see it? Or do they just not care? But in either case, why publish all the hand wringing about tent cities and universal credit?

I can’t quite work it out :confused:
 
? cos the news section is certainly centrist/leftish wing, but the aspirational lifestyle stuff is... something else.
Whenever push comes to shove, The Guardian supports the status quo. Anything that threatens a genuine shift to the left, e.g. Labour's current mild social democracy, is virulently opposed by them.

It's run exclusively by wealthy, privately educated people. As an example of their actual politics, in 2011 one of their leading editorial writers left to become David Cameron's speech writer.
 
It helps the establishment for people to think that The Guardian is genuinely left wing (and even that it represents the 'loony left' or the hard left), because then when The Guardian opposes something, they can say 'Look, even The Guardian thinks Corbyn is an anti-Semitic monster!'
 
A masterpiece of the genre in many ways.

It’s kind of shocking that a newspaper can publish that in all honesty. Well I find it. It’s like someone boasting about their wealth with literally zero insight into how the vast majority live. A kind of Lifestyle ‘let them eat cake’.

It’s breathtakingly insensitive and you’ve got to wonder, do they (the guardian) just not see it? Or do they just not care? But in either case, why publish all the hand wringing about tent cities and universal credit?

I can’t quite work it out :confused:
I don't know either. I grew up reading the Guardian - my parents started buying it when the Times was sold to Murdoch, and they were in state jobs like the NHS and teaching where it used to be the standard - and read it when I was in my 20s and I don't remember thinking that it was weirdly out of sync with reality. Now, apart from a few columnists, so much of it feels like it's written by a group of people who not only don't live in the real world but don't bother thinking about what it might be like for anyone else. (Tbh probably a lot of that is that I didn't realise the implications of what they were saying when I was younger.)

My dad used to call us "Thatcher's children" whenever we did something selfish, but (a) he was taking the piss and (b) "Blair's babies" would be a much better insult. There was a smug liberal elitism that developed where certain people could get rich yet ignore their backgrounds when considering their present situation, putting everything down to their hard work and intelligence and so on, but still feel that they were somehow sensitive to social issues, "not like the Tories" but still with the exact same prejudices somehow.

Basically middle-class Gen-X-ers are the worst and they're writing all the articles now.
 
Cos that lack of self awareness, is actually just lack of awareness about what reality is for the vast majority.

And if it’s real, that level of complete unawareness, that bubble that includes the people who make the policies, then there just seems no hope.
 
Yet I don’t believe they can’t know. In which case it’s pretty much an outright attack on other people. It’s saying fuck you and smirking.
These are the socially-acceptable versions of the actual attitudes held by politicians, too.
 
Whenever push comes to shove, The Guardian supports the status quo. Anything that threatens a genuine shift to the left, e.g. Labour's current mild social democracy, is virulently opposed by them.
Or, you know, anti-slavery in the 1860s. Twas ever thus.
 
These are the socially-acceptable versions of the actual attitudes held by politicians, too.
It’s mockery if that’s the case. Because what is stolen from people is the very time to spend with their loved ones. Their children. Mothers and fathers both having to work full time on shit incomes to make ends meet, stressed trying to hold a million things in their heads, and a million worries from their door. Who’d love nothing more than to press pause on the endless spinning stress of it all and make sure their 14yo lad actually is ok, or pick their baby up from after school club before it’s dark, or not have to leave the house before their kids have gone to school and get them breakfast.

Then this is presented like a choice? Like a, why on earth doesn’t everyone want to do this it’s fabulous? It’s a mockery.
 
18k for two days work and all. That’s about 40+k FT! Not a bad little job! There’s plenty work 40 hours for 18k!

It grates even more because the Graun links into another ‘How I Spend It’ from that page - a student who on top of studying full-time to become an NHS physiotherapist also works full-time hours (38 per week) stacking supermarket shelves on night shift for £12k!

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‘I work night shifts until 8am and start university at 9am’
 
I earn £18,000 a year now and I work an 18-hour week compared with the 60 hours or more before the children, but I have a work-life balance. The most essential thing I can give them now is my time.

:rolleyes: lucky you hen. I earn £14k for working a 33 hour week and I don't get a grand a month pocket money on top either. I guess I just don't love my children as much as you do :(
 
:rolleyes: lucky you hen. I earn £14k for working a 33 hour week and I don't get a grand a month pocket money on top either. I guess I just don't love my children as much as you do :(

Another offspring-hater here: 18ish grand for 50+ hours for me (and self-employed so no leave, sick pay etc.). I do get an allowance from my husband, though: as her job's better paid and more stressful, I'm allowed to do all the housework.
 
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