Why the Guardian is going down the pan!
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DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
old school panning it:
D'ancona thou art avenged
D'ancona thou art avenged
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Do they know it's Brexmas time at all?
UK music stars rail against Brexit in open letter to Theresa May
UK music stars rail against Brexit in open letter to Theresa May
andysays
Love and solidarity
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Paul 'bollocks to the apartheid embargo' simon? did he get a brit passport or something
I'm no fan of Brexit but each week's Observer seems to have various stars/figures of different sectors warning of Armageddon.
Yes, I think leaving the EU will be bad but we'll live and it won't be as terrible as what some are predicting.
The biased press coverage doesn't help whether its the openly pro-EU Grauniad or the EU hating Daily Mail. The whole debate is so polarised so no wonder your average man on the street is left feeling perplexed.
Yes, I think leaving the EU will be bad but we'll live and it won't be as terrible as what some are predicting.
The biased press coverage doesn't help whether its the openly pro-EU Grauniad or the EU hating Daily Mail. The whole debate is so polarised so no wonder your average man on the street is left feeling perplexed.
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Starry Wisdom
Yeh it'll be worse than that
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I tell you what, with that line up of signatories AND a reformed oasis I really think that the 90s were great for me crowd might swing it this time.
Note the lack of a comments section.
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Starry Wisdom
has treelover nicked your login?
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
It's the same things TM said when she launched her PM campaign - she is by instinct a much more 1950'/60's/70's Tory than a Thatcherite or a crony-capitalist of the Cameron/Osborne mould.
These views have always existed in the Tory party, they have certainly been on the back foot for the last forty years, but then so have Corbyns within Labour...
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Starry Wisdom
yeh. but when the policies are only mentioned in the paper and not mentioned in for example manifestos, the queen's speech or the calendar of planned legislation then it's just froth
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I don't think one nationism has suddenly broken out, its a bit of rhetoric from T.May while red briefcase cunt is going to announce a tax on grandmothers next
Don't know who Treelover is.
I don't for one minute think that TM will actually implement these policies. Her record suggests different. It's a bit like when she did her 'burning injustices'/'just about managing' speech, she has done nothing to address that since.
Whether she delivers or not, Corbyn has undoubtedly changed the centre of gravity of British politics to the left and May knows it. End austerity? Money for councils to build houses? A very similar energy cap policy to Miliband, one that no so long ago the Tories denounced as 'Marxist'. Yes, a clear attempt to ape the policies of Labour.
Corbyn is setting the agenda.
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kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I'm not sure it's just decorative froth, but I certainly think it's interesting, and disappointing that it didn't make it into the manifesto.
TM is trying to occupy somewhere near the centre ground. She sees a vacant spot with Labour drifting to the left and some of her own party going right and the Lib Dems hopeless as ever. Politics has not been as polarised as this for a long time and the last election indicated a return to the two-party politics of the past with the huge shares of the vote the two main parties achieved.
I'm not convinced May is onto a winner with her centre ground pitch as the public will judge her on her record. Voters largely seem to want a mix of Corbynomics and the identity politics of the right on Brexit. Not sure where the centre ground fits into this.
I'd agree with you that Corbyn isn't that radical. He offers a return to 20th century policies of nationalism and classic left policies of wealth and income distribution. The more radical narrative of the Corbyn era is the growth of mass movement, grassroots politics, namely from Momentum.
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Starry Wisdom
yeh, that's what comes through with her plans for post-brexit immigration
There's nothing centre-ground about her immigration policy. It's very much aping the policies of the Tory Brexit right. However, her economic and social policies indicate a switch to the centre. She's trying to play a balancing act between pitching herself to the identity politics and nationalism of the Tory right to the Corbynomics on the left.
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Starry Wisdom
immigration policy is both a social and an economic policy
Didn't say it wasn't.immigration policy is both a social and an economic policy
I should have made it clear and said 'some of her other economic and social policies.'
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Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
I know it's not about content, but ffs the website loads so many adverts and tracking gizmos that if you have even a moderately slow connection/network, it's like going back to dial-up speeds. If you try to load more than one guardian page at once, god help you.
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