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Why the Guardian is going down the pan!

Is there an Evening Standard thread?
Cos I've found one of the most obnoxious articles I've ever seen in it
 
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Note the millionaire doctor with a huge garden that many poorer people could use as a playground to be observed in doesn't mention her leading role in the Optimum Population Trust. Nor the journo. Nor their social network connections. This green millionaire just happened to be who you wrote about.
 
Population Matters has seen its membership double in the last five years and now has 6,000 people on its mailing list. It promotes “sustainable family size” and campaigns for universal access to family planning services. It suggests that child benefit be paid for the first two children only, with families being means-tested before receiving subsidies for a third
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christ sake- family planning is already universal. Limit the benefits yeah? cos that will stop people having children. No. It'll jus mean mum stretching her meagre bens to cover four. And getting called a cunt for it. Like she can't manage the money she hasn't got. Vile malthusian pricks
 
A few choice quotes from the populationmatters website:


Confucius – philosopher 551 – 479 BC
“Excessive (population) growth may reduce output per worker, repress levels of living for the masses and engender strife.”

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Aristotle – philosopher 384 – 322 BC
“One would have thought that it was even more necessary to limit population than property…The neglect of this subject, which in existing states is so common, is a never-failing cause of poverty among the citizens; and poverty is the parent of both revolution and crime.”

Tertullian – writer and theologian 160 – 220
“The strongest witness is the vast population of the Earth to which we are a burden and she scarcely can provide for our needs.”

Nicolas Machiavelli – political theorist and philosopher 1469 – 1527
“When every province of the world so teems with inhabitants that they can neither subsist where they are nor remove themselves elsewhere… the world will purge itself in one or another of these three ways (floods, plague and famine).”

...What a strange bunch. What sort of person gets into population control as political activity?
 
The Pale King said:
A few choice quotes from the populationmatters website:


Confucius – philosopher 551 – 479 BC
“Excessive (population) growth may reduce output per worker, repress levels of living for the masses and engender strife.”

aristotle.jpg


Aristotle – philosopher 384 – 322 BC
“One would have thought that it was even more necessary to limit population than property…The neglect of this subject, which in existing states is so common, is a never-failing cause of poverty among the citizens; and poverty is the parent of both revolution and crime.”

Tertullian – writer and theologian 160 – 220
“The strongest witness is the vast population of the Earth to which we are a burden and she scarcely can provide for our needs.”

Nicolas Machiavelli – political theorist and philosopher 1469 – 1527
“When every province of the world so teems with inhabitants that they can neither subsist where they are nor remove themselves elsewhere… the world will purge itself in one or another of these three ways (floods, plague and famine).”

...What a strange bunch. What sort of person gets into population control as political activity?
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Chris Korda?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Korda
Chris Korda - Save the planet, kill yourself:
 
The Pale King said:
A few choice quotes from the populationmatters website:...
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That Confucius quote looks dodgy, he praises burgeoning population (famously in Analects 13.9, the Chinese makes it clear he's impressed by the population) and one of the virtues of kings in his time was having the charismatic appeal to draw in more farmers and increase the size of your state. They used to moan about the influence of Confucianism hindering the family planning policy of recent years.
 
Groups like the Optimum Population Trust strike me as being the "reasonable face" of a particularly ugly undercurrent which includes ecofascist Pentti Linkola and other exterminist Malthusians. What they all seem to have in common is that they find it easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.

I don't think any of them are much if at all influential now, but I am concerned that as the contradictions of late-stage global neo-liberalism mount up (including but not limited to climate change and its associated implications, automation and other causes of increasing unemployment, and so on), such voices will be found useful in some manner by the ruling classes, with horrifying consequences for everyone else. Ugh.
 
DotCommunist said:
christ sake- family planning is already universal. Limit the benefits yeah? cos that will stop people having children. No. It'll jus mean mum stretching her meagre bens to cover four. And getting called a cunt for it. Like she can't manage the money she hasn't got. Vile malthusian pricks
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Only a millionaire would genuinely imagine that anyone would have kids for the £14 a week child benefit.
 
JimW said:
That Confucius quote looks dodgy, he praises burgeoning population (famously in Analects 13.9, the Chinese makes it clear he's impressed by the population) and one of the virtues of kings in his time was having the charismatic appeal to draw in more farmers and increase the size of your state. They used to moan about the influence of Confucianism hindering the family planning policy of recent years.
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Where's the Malthus quote?

These cunts make me want to become one of those quiverfull Xtians and have 20 kids lol
 
this bit is surely just a C&P from the press release?

Aspden challenged himself to recreate an Adidas aesthetic without relying on the signature three stripes. The classic Beckenbauer track jacket is reimagined in luxury wool, with lined pockets. The Touring shoe has cup soles, as seen on Adidas Trimm Trabs. Quintessential contours are adhered to, branding reduced to pin badges and undercollar tape.
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