thank you for calling me idiot face the stratgest nice to see that the arab isreali insuts still hold true even over the internet! firstly was there ever a pro palistineiae leader in power who made conseesions to the palasines and was then shot by an over zealious rabbi or was i asleep some 4 or 5 years ago an dreamed that there was once a peace f process that had real chance of succeeding unitl it was succppered by one person. netenyaho (wrong spelling i know0 it has been k now for the peace process to be suppered on both sides and for it to always be claimed that the suicide bombers are all the result of a terrist campine is the terriost/freedom fighter argument. Has it occured to you that if isreal were not in an occupied territory that they have repaetedlt been told by the world( all be it not very sturnley) that they shouldn't be in, and maybe if the houses which were there were not being pulled down the people ghettoised, and new houses more like intrunment fortresses being bulit for isreali settlers that the bombings may stop..for some one with a leftist view you coming from pretty much central right view points if you think that it is an act of terrioism to demand by any means the rights to your own land back. I suppose that between you and dubya you'd have the tibetans as terroists to, or the kashmereis or the nepalese, east temorians etc all asking for there land back and meeting the level of violence they are met with. i am in no way condoneing the fact that they are killing people look at my previous threads all killing is wotrng and achives nothing. it mearly stops the stus quo but does not prevent or alter anything long term exccept those peoples lives who die. in the current situation it has to be accpeted that if the reactive agressive tatics of shot first ask questions later is causing further killing perhaps this is not working I feel for every single human in that area especailly the isrealis who have made each occpied terriorty there home. they were lied to by there own goverment told that they couldd live there and that it would be ok the escalting violence that has happened against them is a direct result not of suicid ebombers but the eitire policcitacl basis of the settlements in the occupied terriorties. how unfortunate that you should be given a new place to live and raise your family only to tthe face beign wiped of the face of the palnet for moving house. this is what has ahppened to the settles in those places and it is worng that they are baring the brunt of the attacks which are an act of desperation about the policy of an idiot mitlarist goverment. not isreali ciezents however if neither side is blame less then we must look at the root causes of this and that is if the occpation of the terriroies continues then so will the murder, on both sides.
if you keep burning your hand in fire would you continue to put your hand into the fire? noe ofcourse you would't .
Palastinians and arabs are just fed up with isreal being used as the prime broker for oil in the middle east and therefore this gate way being supported by the US, UK and UN.
Isreal has had palastine over a barrel for the last 50 years and the fact that now common consenus has turned away form the "poor isreal being attacked by those evil a-rabs" to "fuck me they are ethnically cleansing every single palastinian from the planet" is just that the west is waking up form the holocauste guilt it quite rightly felt after ww2.
The fact the west openly allowed the jews to be murdered, and tried to apease it's own anit sematic views prior to ww2 by providing a home land to a group of jews that had previously lived else where (largley europe, and post war brooklyn) and had no heridarty links to the region at all. the palsintinans can trace ther root back in the area several thousand years.
the fact that this support has now turn awya form this is because dispite the holocaust or perhaps because of it no isreali or for that matter any body should ever be allowed to forget that it was ahorrilbe and morally bankrupt thing to allow. No contry what ever it's ethinicty or relgion has the right to wipe another even if you do not like them or feel it is your given right to be in that land equally no contry has the right to occupie land when it did not belong to them in the first place displacing the orginal inhabitans and then killing them for complaining.
I would have expected a race whom has been pursicuted for thousands and thousands of years to under stand this an be little more fucking compassionate than to bulldoze homes with tanks and summarlly exicute people for daring to complain that they are being treated badly by the very people tha thad previousy been opressed.
Or is it that the bllied becomes the bully?
On a slighlty diferent note i think its bollocks that you don't see the arab/palastinian view as other wise you wouldn't debate in her ewith me and everyone else you not bother and just think we were allarogeant and misinformed snubbing us all so i would liketo say that this is slurr on your collective chartures and would like not to add my voic eto those calls.
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