What's wrong with Labour

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We had had what's wrong with the Tories, a thread for Starmer, Corbyn etc. but no general labour thread.
To start, Rayner using tax advisors to avoid paying too much tax
BBC News - Angela Rayner denies misleading tax officials

Angela Rayner denies misleading tax officials

The Labour deputy is accused of failing to properly disclose her main residence in official documents.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Not kicking Corbyn out sooner is a big thing wrong with Labour.

 

[Pickman's model]

Nothing is wrong with the Labour party bar its leadership, what it fanciful describes as its policies, the people in the parliamentary Labour party, in both Houses, its local elected officials and its membership

 

[Rob Ray]

The name, because it's wildly misleading.

 

[Pickman's model]

The name, because it's wildly misleading.

By no means. They are the party of work, not the party of workers

 

[hash tag]

Nothing is wrong with the Labour party bar its leadership, what it fanciful describes as its policies, the people in the parliamentary Labour party, in both Houses, its local elected officials and its membership

Too many mor MPs.

 

[brogdale]

Title needs a capital L.

 

[brogdale]

Nothing is wrong with the Labour party bar its leadership, what it fanciful describes as its policies, the people in the parliamentary Labour party, in both Houses, its local elected officials and its membership

Pretty rancid history as well.

 

[hash tag]

Title needs a capital L.

Do the merit it?

 

[two sheds]

The right now controls the NEC and there seems no way back from that?

 

[two sheds]

Not kicking Corbyn out sooner is a big thing wrong with Labour.

What did you think of his policies?

 

[nino_savatte]

Despite telling people that it's an "anti-racist" party, Labour has consistently shown that it isn't keen on people of colour or GRT. The leadership's refusal to allow black sections, while allowing patently Zionist groupings like Poale Zion (now called the Jewish Labour Movement) to organise, illuminates their hierarchy of racism and racial hierarchy. Fuck the Labour Party.

 

[The39thStep]

Snouts in the trough mainly.

 

[Serge Forward]

Do the merit it?

Yes. If we're refering to the labour movement, the cause of labour, etc, we're talking about the wider workers' movement. If we're refering to capital 'L' Labour, as in the Labour Party, we're talking about an anti-working class fuckpig organisation currently led by a duplicitous twat and his cabal.

 

[Silas Loom]

Not kicking Corbyn out sooner is a big thing wrong with Labour.

There was an opportunity for most of the PLP to resign the Labour whip after Corbyn ignored their VONC. But that would have been pretty risky, and would only really have cost him short money.

Then the crucial NEC vote on whether the leader automatically got a place in a leadership election was lost largely because of some foolish resignations that gave Corbyn the numbers he needed. But that was only the fault of a couple of people.

Nothing to compare with the stupidity and carelessness of letting him onto the leadership ballot in the first place. It was probably always going to take a general election drubbing to get him out.

 

[Sue]

If we're refering to capital 'L' Labour, as in the Labour Party, we're talking about an anti-working class fuckpig organisation currently led by a duplicitous twat and his cabal.

I'm still unclear about what you really think, Serge Forward .

 

[Serge Forward]

I'm still unclear about what you really think, Serge Forward .

 

[Rimbaud]

I think Starmer's Labour could potentially be worse than the Tories. Starmer and his clique have a very nasty authoritarian streak. Undermining Parliamentary procedure to bully the speaker and absolute intolerance of dissent within Labour is only a taste of things to come once they get real power.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Damn. I just missed a knock on the door that was my local Labour candidate. Might have been fun to engage with him.

 

[danny la rouge]

To start, Rayner using tax advisors to avoid paying too much tax

Labour front bench more indebted to private health interests than the Tories.

Labour front bench takes £650k from health privateers – more than Tories

Starmer and co rake in cash from private health donors – twenty-five percent more than the Tories Keir Starmer and his front bench MPs have taken almost £650,000 from private health companies…

skwawkbox.org

(Yes, Skwawkbox, but it’s recent and I couldn’t be arsed).

 

[newme]

No one has any clue what they are actually doing other than not being the Tories and Starmer is about as inspiring as Boris with his personality removed

 

[newme]

I'm still unclear about what you really think, Serge Forward .

Capital letters seem to be important is what I am getting

 

[agricola]

There was an opportunity for most of the PLP to resign the Labour whip after Corbyn ignored their VONC. But that would have been pretty risky, and would only really have cost him short money.

Then the crucial NEC vote on whether the leader automatically got a place in a leadership election was lost largely because of some foolish resignations that gave Corbyn the numbers he needed. But that was only the fault of a couple of people.

Nothing to compare with the stupidity and carelessness of letting him onto the leadership ballot in the first place. It was probably always going to take a general election drubbing to get him out.

Them resigning would never have worked. However if they told the speaker that he didn't enjoy the confidence of HM Opposition then he would not have been Leader of the Opposition anymore.

 

[two sheds]

There was an opportunity for most of the PLP to resign the Labour whip after Corbyn ignored their VONC. But that would have been pretty risky, and would only really have cost him short money.

Then the crucial NEC vote on whether the leader automatically got a place in a leadership election was lost largely because of some foolish resignations that gave Corbyn the numbers he needed. But that was only the fault of a couple of people.

Nothing to compare with the stupidity and carelessness of letting him onto the leadership ballot in the first place. It was probably always going to take a general election drubbing to get him out.

What did you think of Corbyn's policies?

 

[newme]

What did you think of Corbyn's policies?

Inconsistent

 

[PTK]

Despite telling people that it's an "anti-racist" party, Labour has consistently shown that it isn't keen on people of colour or GRT. The leadership's refusal to allow black sections, while allowing patently Zionist groupings like Poale Zion (now called the Jewish Labour Movement) to organise, illuminates their hierarchy of racism and racial hierarchy. Fuck the Labour Party.

There is now something called BAME Labour, which I suppose is not that different from the Black Sections proposed in the 1980s, but I may be wrong.

BAME Labour

BAME Labour seeks to empower ethnic minority members within the Labour Party and campaigns for greater representation of ethnic minority communities in public life. Through encouraging increased participation in the political process, BAME Labour empower its members to campaign for a fairer...

bamelabour.laboursites.org

 

[redsquirrel]

We had had what's wrong with the Tories, a thread for Starmer, Corbyn etc. but no general labour thread.
To start, Rayner using tax advisors to avoid paying too much tax
BBC News - Angela Rayner denies misleading tax officials

Angela Rayner denies misleading tax officials

The Labour deputy is accused of failing to properly disclose her main residence in official documents.

www.bbc.co.uk

There is a general Labour thread Why Labour are Scum

 

[alex_]

We had had what's wrong with the Tories, a thread for Starmer, Corbyn etc. but no general labour thread.
To start, Rayner using tax advisors to avoid paying too much tax
BBC News - Angela Rayner denies misleading tax officials

Angela Rayner denies misleading tax officials

The Labour deputy is accused of failing to properly disclose her main residence in official documents.

www.bbc.co.uk

I’m pretty sure if she’d had actually been using a tax advisor ( also called an accountant ) she wouldn’t be being accused of this.

 

[_Russ_]

I’m pretty sure if she’d had actually been using a tax advisor ( also called an accountant ) she wouldn’t be being accused of this

Probably just her accountant fucked up. it's nothing though, everyone who uses an accountant knows what they pay them for.

 

[two sheds]

Inconsistent

In what way inconsistent?