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Can you share the overwhelming evidence for the Russian role with the rest of us then? I am open minded about it either way, but there seems to be little overwhelming evidence, and as the article I posted said these are two separate events with potentially different causes.
One question had been answered: there was definitely someone rummaging around the DNC servers. But who? CrowdStrike checked its records, seeing whether the methods used for the hack matched any they already had on record. They did. Two groups, working independently, were secreting away information, including private correspondence, email databases and, reportedly, opposition research files on Donald Trump. "We realised that these actors were very well known to us," Alperovitch says. This is because of a handful of small but significant tells: data exfiltrated to an IP address associated with the hackers; a misspelled URL; and time zones related to Moscow. "They were called FANCY BEAR and COZY BEAR, and we could attribute them to the Russian government."

Hunting the DNC hackers: how Crowdstrike found proof Russia hacked the Democrats



How cybersleuths decided Russia was behind US election hack

Top U.S. officials to testify in Trump-Russia probe reboot

Guccifer 2.0 DNC’s servers hacked by a lone hacker

Analysis | Here’s the public evidence that supports the idea that Russia interfered in the 2016 election



That report was bolstered by other evidence. As the blog Motherboard reported, the additional evidence pointing to Russia includes:

  • Analysis of DNC log files by two CrowdStrike competitors that reached the same conclusion based on the reuse of tools known to be linked to Russian hackers.
  • The registration of a domain intended to trick DNC employees that pointed back to an Internet address that had been used in previous hacks.
  • The accidental inclusion of Russian-language metadata in some of the leaked files, as well as some error messages that were printed in Russian. In later releases of the same files, those messages were removed.
  • The fact that the leaker of the DNC documents, Guccifer 2.0, claimed to be Romanian but didn’t speak that language


Analysis | Here’s the public evidence that supports the idea that Russia interfered in the 2016 election

Intelligence Report on Russian Hacking

Just because you deny the evidence doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
 
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Did you actually read the article that I posted? It has counter-assertions for all of this. I think that what it says about USB speeds is probably the most persuasive bit.

Basically everything you have posted relies on us believing what an investigation by a company, which is partial and is paid by the DNC has said, and US intelligence officials. Oh, and of course a report which basically detailed the schedule of RT.

I would not say that any of this is necessarily wrong, as I said I have an open mind about it, but this is thin gruel. It's not enough for me to consider it overwhelming any more than I think that US intelligence and various consultant groups proving the existence of WMDs in Iraq was overwhelming.
 




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Did you actually read the article that I posted? It has counter-assertions for all of this. I think that what it says about USB speeds is probably the most persuasive bit.

I did, and I lost interest when it claimed we didn't know if Podesta's e-mail was hacked and it clearly was. Or when it claimed we don't know who Gufficer is or who hacked the DNC, when the public evidence is overwhelming.

Basically everything you have posted relies on us believing what an investigation by a company, which is partial and is paid by the DNC has said, and US intelligence officials. Oh, and of course a report which basically detailed the schedule of RT.

I would not say that any of this is necessarily wrong, as I said I have an open mind about it, but this is thin gruel. It's not enough for me to consider it overwhelming any more than I think that US intelligence and various consultant groups proving the existence of WMDs in Iraq was overwhelming.

Oh fuck off, back on ignore you go.
 
I did, and I lost interest when it claimed we didn't know if Podesta's e-mail was hacked and it clearly was. Or when it claimed we don't know who Gufficer is or who hacked the DNC, when the public evidence is overwhelming.

I think you mean Guccifer. Gufficer is Trump's Secret Service codename.
 
I did, and I lost interest when it claimed we didn't know if Podesta's e-mail was hacked and it clearly was. Or when it claimed we don't know who Gufficer is or who hacked the DNC, when the public evidence is overwhelming.



Oh fuck off, back on ignore you go.


Excellent hissy fit . Top notch . :thumbs:

And he said " overwhelming " again, when it's no such thing .

I'm overwhelmed for one .
 
Actually not quite as I recall it, Pence attends when 'his timetable permits'. Have amended my post with a link. Anyway you get the general drift I hope. :facepalm::(
I was reading a book review about an account of Hypatia's life and death which said one source was transcribed from coptic oral tradition into early greek then into arabic later and then finally into european languages. I hope mike 'stared out the whole of north korea for lols' pence has a similar devotion to his source material as this when schooling the faithful. His hermeneutics bring all the boys to the yard etc
 
This is an odd statement, in quite a lot of ways:



Here's video of it



I mean, where do you begin? It's part of the hamstringing of the State Department that this Administration seems so keen on, but why?
 
On Bloomberg How Trump's War With Republicans Could End
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The last president (as far as we know) to speculate about leaving his party was Richard Nixon, who imagined he could leave moderate and liberal Republicans behind and put together a new coalition of conservative Republicans and southern Democrats. In other words, he anticipated the future Republican Party and thought about trying to make it a reality in 1970 with one sudden action. But Trump wouldn't be pulling together two groups separated for the moment by party loyalty but otherwise quite compatible. Instead, he would be attempting to govern with only die-hard Trump personal loyalists, a group which would be almost entirely a subset of the current Republican Party.

John Tyler is currently ranked 39th of 43 presidents and Andrew Johnson was ranked 42nd in the latest C-SPAN survey of historians. Trump certainly seems destined to join them in the bottom tier, but there are few things he could do to solidify that ranking as obvious as leaving the Republican Party and finding out just how few pure Trump loyalists there really are.
Looks at the likely fate of an anti-party establishment "change" President. Basically Constitutionally doomed to impotence if they haven't come in with a sea change in Congress and Trump did not.

We've already seen the very liberal Obama deliver mostly disappointment for eight years. He promised bi-partisan compromise and met an unyielding wall of GOP resistance determined to make him a one term President. His often measures implemented by Presidential fiat like the "war on coal" as angry GOP voters call it can easily be rolled back. His only substantial achievement Obamacare survives for now simply because US healthcare is a hugely complicated problem and politically toxic to tinker with.

Trump doesn't even have the forthright support of a GOP dominated Congress that he often ran against. If he strays from their agenda that centres on elite tax cuts or looks the least bit progressive he'd find himself isolated. He's an affront to Dems that makes any attempt to reach across the aisle difficult. His flirtation with Putin is viewed with bipartisan suspicion on The Hill. He's seriously annoyed powerful GOP figures in the Senate. The GOP base likes his anti-politician billionaire bullshit but the fact is conventional Republican politicians often out performed him at state level. Trump's not even the party opinion former that Obama was. At the moment the blundering RINO Trump looks like a GOP fifth wheel.

This is fundamentally different from British politics where a PM with a strong party majority really can be a radical reformer. Is such a conservative change inhibiting system a good thing? Probably not but it's the cautious incremental way US politics works. Treat with great suspicion a US Presidential candidate promising wonders as they're either a liar or naive. The inexperienced young Senator Obama perhaps simply didn't understand The Hill or Republicans well and arrogantly thought himself a skilled Hill player like LBJ. Trump was a shamelessly deceitful candidate and is now demonstrating he's a whiny, slow learning political greenhorn.
 
On Bloomberg How Trump's War With Republicans Could End
Looks at the likely fate of an anti-party establishment "change" President. Basically Constitutionally doomed to impotence if they haven't come in with a sea change in Congress and Trump did not.

We've already seen the very liberal Obama deliver mostly disappointment for eight years. He promised bi-partisan compromise and met an unyielding wall of GOP resistance determined to make him a one term President. His often measures implemented by Presidential fiat like the "war on coal" as angry GOP voters call it can easily be rolled back. His only substantial achievement Obamacare survives for now simply because US healthcare is a hugely complicated problem and politically toxic to tinker with.

Trump doesn't even have the forthright support of a GOP dominated Congress that he often ran against. If he strays from their agenda that centres on elite tax cuts or looks the least bit progressive he'd find himself isolated. He's an affront to Dems that makes any attempt to reach across the aisle difficult. His flirtation with Putin is viewed with bipartisan suspicion on The Hill. He's seriously annoyed powerful GOP figures in the Senate. The GOP base likes his anti-politician billionaire bullshit but the fact is conventional Republican politicians often out performed him at state level. Trump's not even the party opinion former that Obama was. At the moment the blundering RINO Trump looks like a GOP fifth wheel.

This is fundamentally different from British politics where a PM with a strong party majority really can be a radical reformer. Is such a conservative change inhibiting system a good thing? Probably not but it's the cautious incremental way US politics works. Treat with great suspicion a US Presidential candidate promising wonders as they're either a liar or naive. The inexperienced young Senator Obama perhaps simply didn't understand The Hill or Republicans well and arrogantly thought himself a skilled Hill player like LBJ. Trump was a shamelessly deceitful candidate and is now demonstrating he's a whiny, slow learning political greenhorn.

I disagree about Trump being outperformed at the state level by "conventional" Republican politicians - lets face it, most of them weren't running against him (and therefore benefited from the Trump bounce) and the ones that did go up against him got absolutely smashed. As for his political impotence - that was always the likely outcome, the GOP hates him at least as much as the Democrats do. Trumps' big mistake is trying to work with them to get things done.

The one question now is whether Congress will realise the opportunity it has and starts to change the shape of US politics.
 
On Politico Gorka: 'Nonsensical' for Tillerson to discuss military matters
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“The idea that Secretary Tillerson is going to discuss military matters is simply nonsensical,” Gorka said in the interview, which was reported by The Washington Post. “It is the job of Secretary Mattis, the secretary of defense, to talk about the military options, and he has done so unequivocally…That is his mandate. Secretary Tillerson is the chief diplomat of the United States, and it is his portfolio to handle those issues.”
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Goatied recovering STAB in failing to understand diplomacy shock.
 
I disagree about Trump being outperformed at the state level by "conventional" Republican politicians - lets face it, most of them weren't running against him (and therefore benefited from the Trump bounce) and the ones that did go up against him got absolutely smashed. As for his political impotence - that was always the likely outcome, the GOP hates him at least as much as the Democrats do. Trumps' big mistake is trying to work with them to get things done.

The one question now is whether Congress will realise the opportunity it has and starts to change the shape of US politics.
That's the one thing they won't do.

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Trump underperformed in 2016

The 2016 election left the national GOP in an extremely powerful position, but it was, paradoxically, a fairly underwhelming performance. Republicans lost two Senate seats and half a dozen House seats while their presidential candidate lost the popular vote by 2 million.

And critically, Trump did worse than GOP Senate candidates in the key battleground states. Trump finished about half a percentage point behind Sen. Pat Toomey in Pennsylvania and almost 3 points behind Ron Johnson in Wisconsin.

And he did a lot worse than Rob Portman in Ohio, who outperformed Trump by over 6.5 points; John McCain in Arizona, who outperformed Trump by nearly 6; and Marco Rubio in Florida, who beat Trump by 4. What’s particularly telling is that Trump was at odds with those three senators to an unusual degree — Rubio, particularly, opposed him in the primary and once said Trump was a “con artist.” Distance from the Republican nominee clearly helped them, even in three states Trump won.

Trump also ran way behind Mike Lee in Utah, thanks to significant defections to Evan McMullin’s protest campaign.
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Linky.
 
On Politico Trump thanks Putin for expelling U.S. diplomats, infuriating State Department
President Donald Trump on Thursday thanked Russian President Vladimir Putin for expelling American diplomats from Russia on the grounds that “we’re going to save a lot of money,” prompting dismay among many of the rank-and-file at the State Department.

“I want to thank him because we’re trying to cut down our payroll, and as far as I’m concerned I’m very thankful that he let go of a large number of people because now we have a smaller payroll,” Trump told reporters at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, according to a pool report.

“There’s no real reason for them to go back,” he added. “I greatly appreciate the fact that we’ve been able to cut our payroll of the United States. We’re going to save a lot of money.”
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Not The Onion but it might be.
 
Seriously, America, 50 odd years ago you managed to shoot a President in the head in a moving car. You seriously telling me you can't take out a man, who doesn't move other than waddling to a golf cart, with today's modern weaponry?
 
Seriously, America, 50 odd years ago you managed to shoot a President in the head in a moving car. You seriously telling me you can't take out a man, who doesn't move other than waddling to a golf cart, with today's modern weaponry?

Yeah, how are the golf courses in Dallas these days, plenty of grassy knolls I'd imagine?
 
On FiveThirtyEight The Congressional Map Has A Record-Setting Bias Against Democrats
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Even if Democrats were to win every single 2018 House and Senate race for seats representing places that Hillary Clinton won or that Trump won by less than 3 percentage points — a pretty good midterm by historical standards — they could still fall short of the House majority and lose five Senate seats.

This is partly attributable to the nature of House districts: GOP gerrymandering and Democratic voters’ clustering in urban districts has moved the median House seat well to the right of the nation. Part of it is bad timing. Democrats have been cursed by a terrible Senate map in 2018: They must defend 25 of their 48 seats while Republicans must defend just eight of their 52.

But there’s a larger, long-term trend at work too — one that should alarm Democrats preoccupied with the future of Congress and the Supreme Court.

In the last few decades, Democrats have expanded their advantages in California and New York — states with huge urban centers that combined to give Clinton a 6 million vote edge, more than twice her national margin. But those two states elect only 4 percent of the Senate. Meanwhile, Republicans have made huge advances in small rural states — think Arkansas, North and South Dakota, Iowa, Louisiana, Montana and West Virginia — that wield disproportionate power in the upper chamber compared to their populations.
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GOP not even needing to win a single swing seat to ensure a Senate majority!

No Dem majority in Congress in 2018 probably means no attempt at impeachment. Worse a practically locked in GOP Senate majority practically ensures that even if Trump were ousted in 2020 a Dem POTUS could get very little done.

This article suggests the Dems need a disaster to truly overtake the GOP on The Hill. I'd guess something like the 08 crash that made Obama a shew in or maybe a big messy land war with North Korea or Iran. Though the latter eventualities might well rally Republicans to Trump.
 
Seriously, America, 50 odd years ago you managed to shoot a President in the head in a moving car. You seriously telling me you can't take out a man, who doesn't move other than waddling to a golf cart, with today's modern weaponry?

That's wasn't "us". Depending on who you talk to that was either the mafia, Cuba, or the Russians.;)
 
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