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On Bloomberg Trump Says 'Solar Wall' on Mexican Border Would Pay for Itself
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“We’re thinking of something that’s unique, we’re talking about the southern border. Lots of sun, lots of heat,” Trump said at a campaign rally in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. “We’re thinking about building the wall as a solar wall, so it creates energy, and pays for itself. And this way Mexico will have to pay much less money, and that’s good. Is that good?”
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Mexicans breathing a sign of relief there.
 
On Politico Health bill could show limits of Trump's Senate sway
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White House and Capitol Hill officials are privately concerned that Trump’s lack of policy expertise could throw off fluid dynamics — and potentially hurt in negotiations with some senators, one Capitol Hill and one White House official close to the talks said. Members of the House Freedom Caucus complained in March that Trump was not engaged in policy details they cared about in an earlier version of health care legislation.

Having the president discuss a bill in depth with a senator doesn't "use his talents well, and it's not going to help us," one White House official said. Some Republicans who were not vocal Trump backers, such as Sen. John McCain and Sen. Mike Lee, might not be swayed by a call from the president.

Two White House officials also said they didn't think McConnell — who has tightly controlled the process, hand-selecting a group of lawmakers to help write the bill— would let them have much control "even if we wanted it."

"There were more leakers and many more drama queens on the House side during that whole debate. He runs a very tight ship," one of the White House officials said of McConnell.

Trump, one outside ally said, has criticized the House bill and senators at different points — "telling people what they want to hear about it." He has asked few questions about the specific language in the bill, one administration official said, but has asked repeatedly about vote totals.
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Trump still showing no appetite at all for the complexities of policy just looking for a win.
 
On FP There’s No Timetable for Trump to Renegotiate NAFTA
Speaking to a Senate panel Wednesday morning, United States Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer would not commit to concluding renegotiation of the free trade deal with Canada and Mexico by the end of the year. He said there would be three days of public hearings on potential changes to it set for June 27, 28, and 29, and that he expects talks to kick off Aug. 16. So far, the federal trade office has received more than 12,000 comments on the renegotiation.

“I have seen reports that suggest we have a deadline. Let me assure the committee that we do not have a deadline,” Lighthizer told Senate Finance Committee. “The only deadline we have is that we’re going to get a good agreement, one that is transformative and that is a very high-standard agreement.”

On the campaign trail, President Donald Trump promised he would leave the deal, which he described as terrible and a job-killer, when he took office. He did not; in May, he told Congress he would renegotiate it instead.
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The capricious Trump could flip-flop again and pull the plug on NAFTA. He has the power to. It would die in six months causing a great deal of harmful chaos in the Rust Belt and amongst rural voters. It would please some of his base but probably bugger his chances in 2020. He torpedoed Obama's unfinished TPP but large parts of it will just get folded into NAFTA II. It was mainly a stick to beat Clinton with and that worked. Trade's in reality very complicated and The Donald habitually delegates such operational complexities preferring to be a show pony.
 
So the Democrats made the special election a referendum on TRUMP!!!

What happened?

The republicans won all 5 seats, say a great deal about the USA
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Who said TRUMP isn't for green energy? He is going to put solar panels on the TRUMP wall, so it will pay for it's self, surely a win for the Mexico as well as gobble warming.
 
So the Democrats made the special election a referendum on TRUMP!!!

What happened?

The republicans won all 5 seats, say a great deal about the USA
president-elect-donald-trump-doesnt-believe-in-climate-change-heres-his-platform-on-the-environment.jpg


Who said TRUMP isn't for green energy? He is going to put solar panels on the TRUMP wall, so it will pay for it's self, surely a win for the Mexico as well as gobble warming.
I'm assuming your posts are just meant to stir and piss take, however . . .

The results do say "a lot" but not what you seem to think. :rolleyes:

Try this more sensible take on the results.

The overall message of 2017 special elections is that Republicans are in trouble
Democrats are consolidating Clinton’s gains, and Republicans aren’t consolidating Trump’s.


Rank-and-file Democrats are, reasonably, disappointed with a loss in what seemed to be a winnable special election in Georgia. Even my colleague Andrew Prokop warns that Democrats shouldn’t “sugarcoat” the result, which is “bad news” for the party.
But step back from the specifics of the race and look at all four special elections in red districts held since Donald Trump’s election, and a more optimistic story emerges. Democrats have successfully transferred Hillary Clinton’s gains in well-educated districts to their down-ballot candidates, even while succeeding in making up some of the ground she lost in white working-class ones.
The Democratic Party’s leaders seem to have believed they could improve on her margins in a place like the Georgia Sixth District while being unreasonably pessimistic about the party’s chances in situations like the South Carolina and Kansas races. That speaks somewhat poorly of their judgment and strategic acumen, but the underlying reality revealed by the four elections taken as a whole is actually more bullish for Democrats than the one the party’s leaders thought they were in. If the basic pattern holds up — with Democrats pocketing Clinton’s gains and the GOP not consolidating Trump’s — they are well positioned for the future.

The vacancies came up because Trump appointed sitting legislators to his cabinet. All were Republicans of course and represented constituencies that either have carried Republican since Adam was a lad or just six months ago, showed up in big numbers for Trump. Winning at least one would have been quite a coup for the Democrats, but the chances were pretty slim. The fact the Democrats narrowed the margin so much in each area within a relatively short space of time strongly suggests both some shifting from traditional red to blue and some "buyers regret" among Trump voters. That's not to say there aren't plenty people in those areas who still think Trump is the greatest thing since sliced bread OR are dyed in the wool GOP and will never cross a box with a D by it, not ever.

The article does mention the risk if the Democrats don't pull in more support from states with a higher than average white population, due to the bizarro electoral college system that is weighted against states with higher minority ethnic communities. Basically, it's rigged that way, intentionally. But, donning the mantle of the GOP by softening the Democratic party's stances on abortion and racial equality in the hopes of wooing a few bigoted Republicans to the side is stupid as there is no guarantee any will fall for it and it will just royally piss off the strongest supporters of the party.

I still say the answer is expanding the voting base among people already inclined to vote Democrat, but who for some reason, stayed away from the polls last November, opted for a third party or were prevented due to voter suppression efforts. Pull out all the stops to get them registered and to vote absentee or get to the polls next year. Every seat in the US House and 1/3 of those in the Senate will be up for grabs. It's all to play for.

However, the Trump Administration and GOP legislators at national and state level are already taking steps to prevent a free and fair election happening. Democrats must fight tooth and claw against proposals for further voter suppression and gerrymandering.

I'm sick of all the yada yada of Democrats needing to appeal to their traditional working class base. For starters, the poorest people who voted didn't choose Trump, and working class people from minority ethnic communities overwhelmingly voted Democrat.

There has always been a huge chunk of folks who are working class and poor who vote GOP straight ticket every time, just as their parents and grandparents did. They back lower taxes, hate "big gubmint," want fundamentalist Christian values and practices to dominate, oppose equality for women, ethnic minorities, LGBTQ folks, etc. Their forbearers were the poor white folks of both the South and North who felt their positions were threatened by the emancipation of African Americans, and since then, any efforts at extending rights to anyone who's not exactly like them. :rolleyes: Some formed trade unions to protect and promote their rights, but excluded people of colour and tried to block opportunities for women and minority ethnic workers. It's all a part of the White Supremacist heritage of the US that lives on today.

They were and are about better opportunities for themselves, not extending opportunities to all. This chunk of working class people are solid Republican voters and they like Trump's policies. I don't get why anyone thinks they can easily be enticed away. Won't happen, even if the heat turns up and they lose health care or other programmes they benefited from. They'll blame Democrats for that and continue their unstinting support of the GOP.
 
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In The Atlantic Trump Is a Russian-Interference Truther Once More
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As I wrote in February, there’s copious evidence that Trump hates being president. He is perpetually angry, and he feels besieged by partisan critics, which isn’t wrong; the only disagreement is whether he is under siege for good or bad reasons. He talks a lot about the election because it’s the last time he had a moment of real triumph. But the continued focus on the election (and on baseless conspiracy theories that illegal votes handed Hillary Clinton a popular-vote win) also serves as a way for Trump to assert the legitimacy of his election. But the more loudly he protests, the more attention he draws to the real questions that surround it.
Trump could just wave the flag and say he was determined to get to the bottom of the Russian thing as it was an affront to him that such a thing as Russian interference might have happened. He still won fair (well with a lot of low blows but that's allowed) and square. Instead he constantly rushes to defend Russia. Now has to go blaming Obama for, maybe, letting it happen. It just can't be the Russians doing a slightly more modern version of the same sort of anti-US information operations they've practiced for decades. Trump probably isn't stupid he's something worse very vain and impulsive. He's got a great knack for looking unrepentantly guilty while he may well be innocent of any real collusion. If (big if) the Dems can get it together to take Congress in 2018 he's going to end up impeached. This one he won't be able to settle out of court and forget.
 
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I'm assuming your posts are just meant to stir and piss take, however . . .

The results do say "a lot" but not what you seem to think. :rolleyes:

Try this more sensible take on the results.

The overall message of 2017 special elections is that Republicans are in trouble
Democrats are consolidating Clinton’s gains, and Republicans aren’t consolidating Trump’s.




The vacancies came up because Trump appointed sitting legislators to his cabinet. All were Republicans of course and represented constituencies that either have carried Republican since Adam was a lad or just six months ago, showed up in big numbers for Trump. Winning at least one would have been quite a coup for the Democrats, but the chances were pretty slim. The fact the Democrats narrowed the margin so much in each area within a relatively short space of time strongly suggests both some shifting from traditional red to blue and some "buyers regret" among Trump voters. That's not to say there aren't plenty people in those areas who still think Trump is the greatest thing since sliced bread OR are dyed in the wool GOP and will never cross a box with a D by it, not ever.

The article does mention the risk if the Democrats don't pull in more support from states with a higher than average white population, due to the bizarro electoral college system that is weighted against states with higher minority ethnic communities. Basically, it's rigged that way, intentionally. But, donning the mantle of the GOP by softening the Democratic party's stances on abortion and racial equality in the hopes of wooing a few bigoted Republicans to the side is stupid as there is no guarantee any will fall for it and it will just royally piss off the strongest supporters of the party.

I still say the answer is expanding the voting base among people already inclined to vote Democrat, but who for some reason, stayed away from the polls last November, opted for a third party or were prevented due to voter suppression efforts. Pull out all the stops to get them registered and to vote absentee or get to the polls next year. Every seat in the US House and 1/3 of those in the Senate will be up for grabs. It's all to play for.

However, the Trump Administration and GOP legislators at national and state level are already taking steps to prevent a free and fair election happening. Democrats must fight tooth and claw against proposals for further voter suppression and gerrymandering.

I'm sick of all the yada yada of Democrats needing to appeal to their traditional working class base. For starters, the poorest people who voted didn't choose Trump, and working class people from minority ethnic communities overwhelmingly voted Democrat.

There has always been a huge chunk of folks who are working class and poor who vote GOP straight ticket every time, just as their parents and grandparents did. They back lower taxes, hate "big gubmint," want fundamentalist Christian values and practices to dominate, oppose equality for women, ethnic minorities, LGBTQ folks, etc. Their forbearers were the poor white folks of both the South and North who felt their positions were threatened by the emancipation of African Americans, and since then, any efforts at extending rights to anyone who's not exactly like them. :rolleyes: Some formed trade unions to protect and promote their rights, but excluded people of colour and tried to block opportunities for women and minority ethnic workers. It's all a part of the White Supremacist heritage of the US that lives on today.

They were and are about better opportunities for themselves, not extending opportunities to all. This chunk of working class people are solid Republican voters and they like Trump's policies. I don't get why anyone thinks they can easily be enticed away. Won't happen, even if the heat turns up and they lose health care or other programmes they benefited from. They'll blame Democrats for that and continue their unstinting support of the GOP.
You and many others here appear to think that democracy is some kind of answer, it isn't and never will be. You can spend your time running around trying to get the "right" kind of people to vote for the "right" kind of party's but you are just playing their game. There is no political party that is going to be the salvation of the workingclass, the down-trodden and the discriminated against, it is only when people take the power by force that they will ever have any power at all.

Here today, gone tomorrow politicians in what is laughing know as democracy's don't have any power in the real world today, they are just pawns in the game run by lobbyists, big business and others with vested interests.

What has any government done for working people in the last 50 years? After WW2 the only reason relatively decent housing was built for workers, a health service was introduced and schools for kids was because the government was shit scared of millions of people rising up demanding more. Governments don't give people rights, people demanding rights is the only way they get them and then only by a show of strength or force.
 
In The Atlantic Trump Is a Russian-Interference Truther Once More
Trump could just wave the flag and say he was determined to get to the bottom of the Russian thing as it was an affront to him that such a thing as Russian interference might have happened. He still won fair (well with a lot of low blows but that's allowed) and square. Instead he constantly rushes to defend Russia. Now has to go blaming Obama for, maybe, letting it happen. It just can't be the Russians doing a slightly more modern version of the same sort of anti-US information operations they've practiced for decades. Trump probably isn't stupid he's something worse very vain and impulsive. He's got a great knack for looking unrepentantly guilty while he may well be innocent of any real collusion. If (big if) the Dems can get it together to take Congress in 2018 he's going to end up impeached. This one he won't be able to settle out of court and forget.

Trump probably isn't stupid he's something worse very vain and impulsive.

What's wrong with vain, stupid and impulsive? You can hoy narcisstic, venal and a whole host of other negatives into any description of TTT and still be on the money.
 
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You and many others here appear to think that democracy is some kind of answer, it isn't and never will be. You can spend your time running around trying to get the "right" kind of people to vote for the "right" kind of party's but you are just playing their game. There is no political party that is going to be the salvation of the workingclass, the down-trodden and the discriminated against, it is only when people take the power by force that they will ever have any power at all.

Here today, gone tomorrow politicians in what is laughing know as democracy's don't have any power in the real world today, they are just pawns in the game run by lobbyists, big business and others with vested interests.

What has any government done for working people in the last 50 years? After WW2 the only reason relatively decent housing was built for workers, a health service was introduced and schools for kids was because the government was shit scared of millions of people rising up demanding more. Governments don't give people rights, people demanding rights is the only way they get them and then only by a show of strength or force.

Aye, auld Mao and uncle Joe gave the 'people' everything they desired? democracy can work but not on a 'first past the post' system.
The lib Dems had a once in a generation chance to move us towards a proper PR system and they blew it.
 
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You and many others here appear to think that democracy is some kind of answer, it isn't and never will be. You can spend your time running around trying to get the "right" kind of people to vote for the "right" kind of party's but you are just playing their game. There is no political party that is going to be the salvation of the workingclass, the down-trodden and the discriminated against, it is only when people take the power by force that they will ever have any power at all.

Here today, gone tomorrow politicians in what is laughing know as democracy's don't have any power in the real world today, they are just pawns in the game run by lobbyists, big business and others with vested interests.

What has any government done for working people in the last 50 years? After WW2 the only reason relatively decent housing was built for workers, a health service was introduced and schools for kids was because the government was shit scared of millions of people rising up demanding more. Governments don't give people rights, people demanding rights is the only way they get them and then only by a show of strength or force.
Sure, and violent overthrowing of governments has been so successful at bringing justice, equality and peace. Okay. :rolleyes:
 
This is a video from the 'Democrat' in the Georgia race that the Dems poured money into in a way that they just did not for Berniecrat equivalents...



It feels like a corporate training video for a call centre.

Leftwing Democrats say Jon Ossoff loss shows 'massive failure' of party's elites

The DNC are still trying to win using Clinton's strategy, of winning over other rich mostly white people like them but who vote Republican, it didn't work against Trump just they heard him describing himself as a rapist so why do they think it would ever work? The reality has to be that these people are just idiots, I genuinely think that it goes beyond corruption and ideology.. a lot of the people at the top of the Democratic Party just have no idea what to do and they have no idea what to do because they do not understand anything about the world around them. They are going to continue to try and win over places like this in Georgia which they do not need to win while neglecting and ignoring eminently winnable states places elsewhere because the people there aren't civilised enough to ride around in ubers and have never heard of intersectionality.
 
I'm assuming your posts are just meant to stir and piss take, however . . .

The results do say "a lot" but not what you seem to think. :rolleyes:

Try this more sensible take on the results.

The overall message of 2017 special elections is that Republicans are in trouble
Democrats are consolidating Clinton’s gains, and Republicans aren’t consolidating Trump’s.




The vacancies came up because Trump appointed sitting legislators to his cabinet. All were Republicans of course and represented constituencies that either have carried Republican since Adam was a lad or just six months ago, showed up in big numbers for Trump. Winning at least one would have been quite a coup for the Democrats, but the chances were pretty slim. The fact the Democrats narrowed the margin so much in each area within a relatively short space of time strongly suggests both some shifting from traditional red to blue and some "buyers regret" among Trump voters. That's not to say there aren't plenty people in those areas who still think Trump is the greatest thing since sliced bread OR are dyed in the wool GOP and will never cross a box with a D by it, not ever.

The article does mention the risk if the Democrats don't pull in more support from states with a higher than average white population, due to the bizarro electoral college system that is weighted against states with higher minority ethnic communities. Basically, it's rigged that way, intentionally. But, donning the mantle of the GOP by softening the Democratic party's stances on abortion and racial equality in the hopes of wooing a few bigoted Republicans to the side is stupid as there is no guarantee any will fall for it and it will just royally piss off the strongest supporters of the party.

I still say the answer is expanding the voting base among people already inclined to vote Democrat, but who for some reason, stayed away from the polls last November, opted for a third party or were prevented due to voter suppression efforts. Pull out all the stops to get them registered and to vote absentee or get to the polls next year. Every seat in the US House and 1/3 of those in the Senate will be up for grabs. It's all to play for.

However, the Trump Administration and GOP legislators at national and state level are already taking steps to prevent a free and fair election happening. Democrats must fight tooth and claw against proposals for further voter suppression and gerrymandering.

I'm sick of all the yada yada of Democrats needing to appeal to their traditional working class base. For starters, the poorest people who voted didn't choose Trump, and working class people from minority ethnic communities overwhelmingly voted Democrat.

There has always been a huge chunk of folks who are working class and poor who vote GOP straight ticket every time, just as their parents and grandparents did. They back lower taxes, hate "big gubmint," want fundamentalist Christian values and practices to dominate, oppose equality for women, ethnic minorities, LGBTQ folks, etc. Their forbearers were the poor white folks of both the South and North who felt their positions were threatened by the emancipation of African Americans, and since then, any efforts at extending rights to anyone who's not exactly like them. :rolleyes: Some formed trade unions to protect and promote their rights, but excluded people of colour and tried to block opportunities for women and minority ethnic workers. It's all a part of the White Supremacist heritage of the US that lives on today.

They were and are about better opportunities for themselves, not extending opportunities to all. This chunk of working class people are solid Republican voters and they like Trump's policies. I don't get why anyone thinks they can easily be enticed away. Won't happen, even if the heat turns up and they lose health care or other programmes they benefited from. They'll blame Democrats for that and continue their unstinting support of the GOP.

Another reason why the 2018 elections may not be free and fair, and a huge fucking worry about all the private data leaked, for a whole host of reasons. :mad:

Election Hackers Altered Voter Rolls, Stole Private Data, Officials Say
 
This is a video from the 'Democrat' in the Georgia race that the Dems poured money into in a way that they just did not for Berniecrat equivalents...



It feels like a corporate training video for a call centre.

Leftwing Democrats say Jon Ossoff loss shows 'massive failure' of party's elites

The DNC are still trying to win using Clinton's strategy, of winning over other rich mostly white people like them but who vote Republican, it didn't work against Trump just they heard him describing himself as a rapist so why do they think it would ever work? The reality has to be that these people are just idiots, I genuinely think that it goes beyond corruption and ideology.. a lot of the people at the top of the Democratic Party just have no idea what to do and they have no idea what to do because they do not understand anything about the world around them. They are going to continue to try and win over places like this in Georgia which they do not need to win while neglecting and ignoring eminently winnable states places elsewhere because the people there aren't civilised enough to ride around in ubers and have never heard of intersectionality.

its pretty much as the article I read the other day was saying, the ground has shifted and they have not. Cannot.
 
On the one hand Putin controls America as a vassal state, Trump is Hitler...

...and on the other, there is money to be made.

Prominent Democratic Fundraisers Realign to Lobby For Trump’s Agenda

After President Donald Trump’s upset election victory, Democratic insiders who worked on Hillary Clinton’s failed presidential bid weren’t necessarily relegated to the sidelines. Many, in fact, are cashing in as lobbyists — by working to advance Trump’s agenda.

Lobbying records show that some Democratic fundraisers, who raised record amounts of campaign cash for Clinton, are now retained by top telecom interests to help repeal the strong net neutrality protections established during the Obama administration.

Others are working on behalf of for-profit prisons on detention issues, while others still are paid to help corporate interests pushing alongside Trump to weaken financial regulations. At least one prominent Clinton backer is working for a health insurance company on a provision that was included in the House Republican bill to gut the Affordable Care Act.

While Republican lobbyists are more in demand, liberal lobbyists are doing brisk business that has them reaching out to fellow Democrats to endorse — or at least tamp down vocal opposition to — Trump agenda items

Pushing for the AHCA shouldn't be too difficult for these people, Clintonite lobbyists and campaigners have been and I'm sure will continue to be a key component in the forces attacking state based single payer legislation.
 
Aye, auld Mao and uncle Joe gave the 'people' everything they desired? democracy can work but not on a 'first past the post' system.
The lib Dems had a once in a generation chance to move us towards a proper PR system and they blew it.
Yeah because there's not been any increase in inequality outside the US/UK/Canada.

France, Germany, NZ, Australia, etc all paragons of social democracy none of that nasty neo-liberalism in those countries.
 
Yeah because there's not been any increase in inequality outside the US/UK/Canada.

France, Germany, NZ, Australia, etc all paragons of social democracy none of that nasty neo-liberalism in those countries.

Isn't it astonishing how Europeanists are all so parochial.
 
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