CRI
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I think that happened long ago.
What stupid shit has Trump done today?
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krtek a houby
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Seriously deluded. Just listen to the audio. I thought it was a clip from SNL at first. It's not, is it?
It really isn’t.
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Ugh. Grubbier and grubbier.
Trump denies making soldier's widow cry
The president tweeted on Wednesday morning: "Democrat Congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof). Sad!"
Mr Trump did not immediately provide the evidence.
Does he have evidence or this another Comey-like bluff?
Trump denies making soldier's widow cry
The president tweeted on Wednesday morning: "Democrat Congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof). Sad!"
Mr Trump did not immediately provide the evidence.
Does he have evidence or this another Comey-like bluff?
CRI
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His team would lie for him, so the only evidence would be a recording of the conversation. But how crass would it be to release the tape of a conversation with a grieving widow, just because "clearing your name" is more important than anything else? I seriously doubt there is a tape anyhow.
I have little doubt that he said what he said, as it fits perfectly with the types of obtuse comments he makes in situations like that. Even if he didn't, or thinks he was misunderstood, the appropriate, humane and sensitive response would be to say at the very least, "I deeply regret that my words to Mrs Johnson were misunderstood. It was never my intention to offend but only to send my sincere condolences to her and her family on the sad death of Sgt. Johnson," or similar. Still a "non apology" but at least not so fucking arrogant, insensitive and defensive.
Notice he pointed out the congresswoman was a Democrat - obviously partial and an enemy. Perhaps "fabricated" was a new word on his spelling list for the week that he's been taught as an alternative to shouting "fake" all the time. And WTF with this "Sad!" business?
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Unfortunately, I predict Trump supporters, members of his administration and the mainstream media will start going after the widow and family of Sgt Johnson and no doubt are already digging deep for any "dirt" to undermine his reputation.
Clearly the White House would like to brush the whole affair under the carpet as already, it's looking like an avoidable balls up with shit decisions up the chain of command. Even just recognising the dead men as "heroes" risks questions they want to avoid at all costs.
The Trump administration and his supporters have already shown they're prepared to push even the most extraordinary lies to justify the President's words and actions, so I have no doubt they'll gladly do the same in this case. I'm already seeing fans back Trump's denial that he said anything insensitive to Mrs Johnson on the phone, despite 2 other people being party to the convo in the car along with the congresswoman.
Sounds like he was what most Americans would call a "model citizen." Lived in the same community where he grew up, active in his church, did well at school, mentored younger kids, worked up from Walmart associate to the prestige of being a Green Beret within a few years, married a childhood friend, two kids and one on the way, etc.
But, white supremacists (whether in the White House or regular society) invest so much on the trope of African Americans as immoral, lazy, unintelligent, arrogant, violent, hyper sexual and criminal as "evidence" of their inferiority, to justify their marginalisation and explain why it's their own fault, not systemic racism, that they don't "get ahead."
An African American like Sgt Johnson, who appears to have been the opposite of this stereotypes, is a threat to their ideology, so they'll have to double down on efforts to trash him because they can't let this slide.
It's what they did with Obama - a Black guy who had the temerity not to live up to their stereotypes. When they couldn't find any dirt, they resorted to the "he was born in Africa" and the "he's a Muslim" lies that so many still cling to. Regardless of one's views on his policies in office, the strongest attacks on him were personal ones founded on racism.
I hope I'm wrong, but don't be surprised if you start seeing stories about a distant cousin who was a drug dealer, the candy bar Johnson shoplifted when he was 10, the teacher who remembers him getting in a fight, the disgruntled ex girlfriend's view, his social media post sympathetic of Black Lives Matters or taking the knee, his widow being "attention seeking" or "money grabbing," etc. If they can't find any goss, they'll just make it up. It's so easy to "misattribute" something bad that a different David Johnson did, then issue a faint "my bad" weeks after everyone has swallowed the lies. They'll get the result they want.
Clearly the White House would like to brush the whole affair under the carpet as already, it's looking like an avoidable balls up with shit decisions up the chain of command. Even just recognising the dead men as "heroes" risks questions they want to avoid at all costs.
The Trump administration and his supporters have already shown they're prepared to push even the most extraordinary lies to justify the President's words and actions, so I have no doubt they'll gladly do the same in this case. I'm already seeing fans back Trump's denial that he said anything insensitive to Mrs Johnson on the phone, despite 2 other people being party to the convo in the car along with the congresswoman.
Sounds like he was what most Americans would call a "model citizen." Lived in the same community where he grew up, active in his church, did well at school, mentored younger kids, worked up from Walmart associate to the prestige of being a Green Beret within a few years, married a childhood friend, two kids and one on the way, etc.
But, white supremacists (whether in the White House or regular society) invest so much on the trope of African Americans as immoral, lazy, unintelligent, arrogant, violent, hyper sexual and criminal as "evidence" of their inferiority, to justify their marginalisation and explain why it's their own fault, not systemic racism, that they don't "get ahead."
An African American like Sgt Johnson, who appears to have been the opposite of this stereotypes, is a threat to their ideology, so they'll have to double down on efforts to trash him because they can't let this slide.
It's what they did with Obama - a Black guy who had the temerity not to live up to their stereotypes. When they couldn't find any dirt, they resorted to the "he was born in Africa" and the "he's a Muslim" lies that so many still cling to. Regardless of one's views on his policies in office, the strongest attacks on him were personal ones founded on racism.
I hope I'm wrong, but don't be surprised if you start seeing stories about a distant cousin who was a drug dealer, the candy bar Johnson shoplifted when he was 10, the teacher who remembers him getting in a fight, the disgruntled ex girlfriend's view, his social media post sympathetic of Black Lives Matters or taking the knee, his widow being "attention seeking" or "money grabbing," etc. If they can't find any goss, they'll just make it up. It's so easy to "misattribute" something bad that a different David Johnson did, then issue a faint "my bad" weeks after everyone has swallowed the lies. They'll get the result they want.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
So this is a completely different grieving family of a dead soldier.
Kind of amazing that there's two completely different families Trump managed to insult within a few days of each other.
Trump offered a grieving military father $25,000 in a call, but didn’t follow through
Kind of amazing that there's two completely different families Trump managed to insult within a few days of each other.
Trump offered a grieving military father $25,000 in a call, but didn’t follow through
krtek a houby
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It's well tawdry now. Trump's lost all focus and credivility now, if he had any to begin with.
CRI
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I noticed this googling names of servicemen in the article you posted.
Total coincidence, I'm sure.
Three of the dead soldiers whose families Trump ignored or demeaned were black
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I noticed this googling names of servicemen in the article you posted.
Total coincidence, I'm sure.
Three of the dead soldiers whose families Trump ignored or demeaned were black
They're not soldiers, you see, they're slaves.
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John Kelly gets facts wrong in attack on Frederica Wilson | Miami Herald
Kelly disgraced himself, attacking the congresswoman (a family friend) and other family in the car with Sgt Johnson's widow for listening in. I guess at least they've all given up saying he didn't say stupid and insensitive things. They just weren't meant for anyone else to hear.
And he's lied about Rep Frederica Wilson on another matter to try and discredit her, and the soldier's family by proxy. I doubt we'll be long before the White House and Trump fans become more direct in their attacks.
Edit:. I keep seeing articles using the phrases 'got the facts wrong" and "falsehoods" and other soft euphemisms for "lied." Fuck it, why not just say "lied?"
Kelly disgraced himself, attacking the congresswoman (a family friend) and other family in the car with Sgt Johnson's widow for listening in. I guess at least they've all given up saying he didn't say stupid and insensitive things. They just weren't meant for anyone else to hear.
And he's lied about Rep Frederica Wilson on another matter to try and discredit her, and the soldier's family by proxy. I doubt we'll be long before the White House and Trump fans become more direct in their attacks.
Edit:. I keep seeing articles using the phrases 'got the facts wrong" and "falsehoods" and other soft euphemisms for "lied." Fuck it, why not just say "lied?"
krtek a houby
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I am well conflicted on this.When you start nodding your head in agreement with Dubya,you know it's bizarro world
George W Bush condemns bigotry and lies in coded attack on Trump
“Bigotry in any form is blasphemy against the American creed and it means the very identity of our nation depends on the passing of civic ideals to the next generation. We need a renewed emphasis on civic learning in schools.”
Bush took shots at the “governing class” while hinting at aspects of Trump’s presidency.
“Our young people need positive role models,” he said. “Bullying and prejudice in our public life sets a national tone, provides permission for cruelty and bigotry, and compromises the moral education of children.”
I do hope he's being genuine and not just prolonging the feud between them. Did like this comment from him
Bush did, however, attend Trump’s inauguration and reportedly told those around him of the latter’s speech: “That was some weird shit.”
George W Bush condemns bigotry and lies in coded attack on Trump
“Bigotry in any form is blasphemy against the American creed and it means the very identity of our nation depends on the passing of civic ideals to the next generation. We need a renewed emphasis on civic learning in schools.”
Bush took shots at the “governing class” while hinting at aspects of Trump’s presidency.
“Our young people need positive role models,” he said. “Bullying and prejudice in our public life sets a national tone, provides permission for cruelty and bigotry, and compromises the moral education of children.”
I do hope he's being genuine and not just prolonging the feud between them. Did like this comment from him
Bush did, however, attend Trump’s inauguration and reportedly told those around him of the latter’s speech: “That was some weird shit.”
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they simply misspokeJohn Kelly gets facts wrong in attack on Frederica Wilson | Miami Herald
Kelly disgraced himself, attacking the congresswoman (a family friend) and other family in the car with Sgt Johnson's widow for listening in. I guess at least they've all given up saying he didn't say stupid and insensitive things. They just weren't meant for anyone else to hear.
And he's lied about Rep Frederica Wilson on another matter to try and discredit her, and the soldier's family by proxy. I doubt we'll be long before the White House and Trump fans become more direct in their attacks.
Edit:. I keep seeing articles using the phrases 'got the facts wrong" and "falsehoods" and other soft euphemisms for "lied." Fuck it, why not just say "lied?"
I vote for the concrete one with the round thing on top. It looks like the Berlin wall.....cool.
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Not even that. Islamic terror murders were excluded from the figures precisely because they are so rare, and our violent crime numbers are so low.
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Yes, you can add this to the list of Trump accomplishments. He's managed to make GWB look like a statesman. I try to remember that GWB lied to get us into a war.
CRI
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Well, yes, and there was actually a five fold increase in reported attacks on Muslims after the Manchester attack, which probably didn't make the books in time to be quoted in the figures here (but I haven't looked at the primary source yet.)
So yeah, there was an increase in attacks on Muslims, not by them, but hey, like Trump (or his administration, or his fanbase) gives a shit whether anything he says is true.
CRI
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It's disturbing, but the bar is now so close to the ground that yes, even GWB looks pretty good.
I remember how cringeworthy Dan Quayle's misspelling of "potato" in a group of children was, or his "I wish I'd studied Latin," before going on a trip to Latin America was. But George Bush II managed to outstupid Quayle. Never realised the race to the bottom could move so fast or go so low.
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Fixed it for you.
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