What little things have you done

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Get a load of cats. I use wood pellets as cat litter, and I burn the old stuff in the stove. Cat shit burns surprisingly well. It's nice to see the little fuckers give something back.

Hold on!

You cook your food by burning cat shit?

 

[Saul Goodman]

Hold on!

You cook your food by burning cat shit?

No. The stove only acts to warm the room, and as a heater for the central heating. There's an oil-fired boiler outside the house and a cat shit fired boiler inside. Cat shit is probably more expensive than oil but I have it and have to dispose of it somewhere, so might as well get some heat from it.

 

[WouldBe]

Planting forests in order to burn them seems to me to be not much different. It does not reduce the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.​

You don't. They are grown for building materials, it's the surplus that gets burnt. So most of the carbon captured by the trees is sequestered in buildings.

 

[WouldBe]

Hold on!

You cook your food by burning cat shit?

They use dried cow pats to cook with in some parts of the world.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

They use dried cow pats to cook with in some parts of the world.

That's fine, cows are veggies and it adds to the flavour of a nice steak. Cat shit is meat shit and probably only good for enhancing the flavour of a cat...

 

[UrbaneFox]

No. The stove only acts to warm the room, and as a heater for the central heating. There's an oil-fired boiler outside the house and a cat shit fired boiler inside. Cat shit is probably more expensive than oil but I have it and have to dispose of it somewhere, so might as well get some heat from it.

At last, they're making some attempt at contributing to their upkeep.

 

[Saul Goodman]

At last, they're making some attempt at contributing to their upkeep.

Mum cat brought me in a rat this evening, which was nice.

 

[PTK]

You don't. They are grown for building materials, it's the surplus that gets burnt. So most of the carbon captured by the trees is sequestered in buildings.

That is what is being advocated, though. Planting forests in order to burn the trees at a later date.

 

[StoneRoad]

That is what is being advocated, though. Planting forests in order to burn the trees at a later date.

Output from Kielder goes to various uses ... not just to burn !
Not pip props anymore, though !

Let's see, over the years I've been told that it has been sent for uses [depending on species / quality / current contracts] ranging across - timber [building, fencing etc], pulping [paper], chipboard [& similar], biomass and brashings are usually left "on site" [sometimes the bark is harvested for playgrounds / mulch].

Much more than just burnt !

 

[PTK]

Output from Kielder goes to various uses ... not just to burn !
Not pip props anymore, though !

Let's see, over the years I've been told that it has been sent for uses [depending on species / quality / current contracts] ranging across - timber [building, fencing etc], pulping [paper], chipboard [& similar], biomass and brashings are usually left "on site" [sometimes the bark is harvested for playgrounds / mulch].

Much more than just burnt !

Why do you assume that I referring to that particulaer forest?

 

[StoneRoad]

Why do you assume that I referring to that particulaer forest?

I don't assume that at all.
It is just that Kielder is an area I know quite well [I live near it] and I have information about it to share, as an example to support my comments.
It's also a pretty big place and at 250 square miles, it is the largest man-made forest in England ...

 

[Saul Goodman]

I don't assume that at all.
It is just that Kielder is an area I know quite well [I live near it] and I have information about it to share, as an example to support my comments.
It's also a pretty big place and at 250 square miles, it is the largest man-made forest in England ...

I spent many a sideways hour in Kielder. It used to be my playground in my rallying days of old.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The same applies to coal and oil.

Not really, no.

 

[PTK]

Not really, no.

The carbon in coal and oil was removed from the atmosphere by living organisms.

 

[hash tag]

I've done my bit this Christmas by not buying any presents and told everyone not to buy me anything. There might be a slight indulgence with food, not drink.

 

[StoneRoad]

I've done my bit this Christmas by not buying any presents and told everyone not to buy me anything. There might be a slight indulgence with food, not drink.

My best mates have - largely - done the same ... although they are currently restoring an isetta !
my SiL's household are, mostly, getting lego vouchers {reduction in wrapping paper & fuel to deliver}

I'm hoping OH has also not gone mad in buying pressies !

 

[hash tag]

My best mates have - largely - done the same ... although they are currently restoring an isetta !
my SiL's household are, mostly, getting lego vouchers {reduction in wrapping paper & fuel to deliver}

I'm hoping OH has also not gone made in buying pressies !

Ive managed to get a card for Mrs Tag and nothing else. I expect nothing more from her.

 

[stavros]

I've done my bit this Christmas by not buying any presents and told everyone not to buy me anything. There might be a slight indulgence with food, not drink.

I'd love it if that happened in my family. The consumption for its own sake is one of the things that annoys me most about Christmas.

 

[hash tag]

I'd love it if that happened in my family. The consumption for its own sake is one of the things that annoys me most about Christmas.

I agree totally about the consumption thing. Start a trend; there is no harm in telling them all no!

 

[hash tag]

Avoiding Christmas is a bit more than just a little thing. I will feel suitably smug tomorrow.
"An analysis for the Guardian has found the average Briton’s consumption on Christmas Day causes 23 times more greenhouse gas emissions than a regular day."

Average Briton causes 23 times more CO2 on Christmas Day, study reveals

Campaigners say consumption such as travel, gifts and food are destroying planet and the meaning of Christmas

www.theguardian.com

 

[Saul Goodman]

Avoiding Christmas is a bit more than just a little thing. I will feel suitably smug tomorrow.
"An analysis for the Guardian has found the average Briton’s consumption on Christmas Day causes 23 times more greenhouse gas emissions than a regular day."

Average Briton causes 23 times more CO2 on Christmas Day, study reveals

Campaigners say consumption such as travel, gifts and food are destroying planet and the meaning of Christmas

www.theguardian.com

That's nothing. my mate is living in a cave, with only dried leaves to wipe his arse on, and he gets eaten by bears every morning.

 

[hash tag]

That's nothing. my mate is living in a cave, with only dried leaves to wipe his arse on, and he gets eaten by bears every morning.

That really is hitting rock bottom.

 

[PTK]

That's nothing. my mate is living in a cave, with only dried leaves to wipe his arse on, and he gets eaten by bears every morning.

Yeah, well, I have given up breathing.
I won't be producing any more carbon dioxide.

 

[stavros]

My Dad had wrapped all the presents he gave in old newspapers, rather than regular wrapping paper. Fair play to him.