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Me76 said:
I understand that change happens and I need to deal with it. But it's probably the champagne and chocolate thing that is disturbing me the most.
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that does seem completely random.. especially as it seems to be from the Portuguese deli people (someone said).. not sure what to make of that tbh...

I'm not too fussed about all the pubs/restaurants etc. We very rarely use such places anyway. I just want the bloody sports centre to open. :mad:
 
Me76 said:
I'm in a place at the moment where west Norwood is turning into a different place than I moved into 18 years ago.

I understand that change happens and I need to deal with it. But it's probably the champagne and chocolate thing that is disturbing me the most.
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It sounds to me like they're trying to cash in on what's happened in Brixton. I don't have a problem with that. Though I know some people just don't like the idea of champagne because of what it can represent. But there is so much empty space in West Norwood that I'm happy for it to be filled with variety. And if it doesn't work then it'll close I guess.
I'm applauding anybody that tries to bring something new to WN.
 
I lived in WN for. 8 years after Brixton before moving back to Sydney. When I left there were chicken shops, charity shops and bookmakers. I welcome shops bring busy!
I loved the Horns, followed by a curry at Lal Baag. There is room in WN for a mixture of businesses. Remember how successful the Fishmongers became on opening?
 
gaijingirl said:
3 of the applications on that link are for WN.. the gift shop/bistro, the Italian and Chocolate and Champagne!
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So C&C is going to be in the old Mine bar? Any more info on what it's going to be?

Pace of change round here is insane. And loads yet to come, I'm sure. Once the leisure centre, the cinema, the new pub open....then there's the fire station, the samaritans place...
 
It was inevitable that West Norwood would get gentrified. It has nice housing stock, not bad transport links, now the facilities - leisure centre et al - are coming into place, it'll become very desirable. Lot of people are being displaced out of Brixton and are probably looking for somewhere fairly close.
 
boohoo said:
It was inevitable that West Norwood would get gentrified. It has nice housing stock, not bad transport links, now the facilities - leisure centre et al - are coming into place, it'll become very desirable. Lot of people are being displaced out of Brixton and are probably looking for somewhere fairly close.
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I think the people being displaced out of Brixton started quite some time ago. Now people renting in Tulse Hill/WN/Streatham are having to look further down to South Norwood/Norbury. We only left Brixton for that reason and we couldn't afford Tulse Hill if we were moving now. Anyway, same old conversation.

clandestino - I don't know - someone (earlier on this thread I think) said it is the Portuguese deli a few doors up who has bought the old Mine Bar. I'm not sure Champagne and chocolate would work there tbh but then it has such a poor history that site I might just be predisposed to think negatively towards it. It's not clear from the planning application what it's going to be... except they don't even seem to want to play recorded music.
 
I've just been past Chocolate and Champagne on the bus (bit too fast to take a photo). It's now open. And it looks from the outside like many other deli cafe type places. Certainly nothing like any of the champagne bars I'm a member of ;)
I'll try and get a proper look/pic on the way home.
 
Yes, we had a look today. Looks like a regular deli cafe. Big TV on the wall, lots of cakes in the window. Looks nice enough. Good luck to them. I hope they can make it work.
 
Had tea and cake in Chocolate Champagne a couple of days ago. They have some very fancy continental style cakes which are well worth stopping by for. Swathed in redcurrants and cherries and the like.

Tea was served in a pot, which was good too.
 
It says "a desirable London suburb" - that's quite a telling indication of how the perception of the area has changed, as it was written from an outsider's perspective.

I know there's been lots of changes to WN in the last few years, but I was still surprised to see that tbh.
 
ringo said:
I went to the little old cafe next to Knights Hill Fish & Chips yesterday afternoon in a break from an auction at Roseberys. Proper old school, the place looks like it hasn't changed in 50 years. I had the homemade steak pie with chips and beans. It was like eating my Granny's dinners in the 70's - the cheapest stewing steak, those rough old beans with the little bits in the sauce, gravy with rainbows of oil congealing to a grim jelly as it cools and hardens. Lovely old dear in there, kind of place that you hope will keep going and won't be tuned into another fried chicken shop, but tbh it was a bit grim and I won't be going back.
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Looks like the Cardinal Cafe have reheated their last pies:

A new Italian bistro is planned for West Norwood.at 31 Knights Hill SE27 0HS, opening until 11pm and serving Italian cured meats, cheeses,home made pizzas and British roasts.
Comments on the licence must be made by Friday 30th May. For details see: www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/Business/LicencesStreetTrading/AlcoholEntertainmentLateNightRefreshment/CurrentApplications.htm
The Garden Gastro Bar will take over the premises of the long standing Cardinal Cafe, famous for its bacon butties.
http://westnorwood.wordpress.com/page/2/

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ringo said:
Looks like the Cardinal Cafe have reheated their last pies:

A new Italian bistro is planned for West Norwood.at 31 Knights Hill SE27 0HS, opening until 11pm and serving Italian cured meats, cheeses,home made pizzas and British roasts.
Comments on the licence must be made by Friday 30th May. For details see: www.lambeth.gov.uk/Services/Business/LicencesStreetTrading/AlcoholEntertainmentLateNightRefreshment/CurrentApplications.htm
The Garden Gastro Bar will take over the premises of the long standing Cardinal Cafe, famous for its bacon butties.
http://westnorwood.wordpress.com/page/2/

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It's still open if you want to grab your last pie though....I think I'll wait until the new place starts mind ;)
 
gaijingirl said:
same news in post #784 Ringo...

as long as Knight's Hill chipper doesn't go... i'd be gutted. That's my big treat these days.
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I don't want to disappoint you but I was driving past the other day and it seemed to be a kebab place now or something.
Might be wrong though as you have to concentrate on driving on that one-way as there's always some dick that tries to make it into a two-lane road so they can cut in, and sometimes there's even some other bright spark wanting to make it a three-way highway.
 
twistedAM said:
I don't want to disappoint you but I was driving past the other day and it seemed to be a kebab place now or something.
Might be wrong though as you have to concentrate on driving on that one-way as there's always some dick that tries to make it into a two-lane road so they can cut in, and sometimes there's even some other bright spark wanting to make it a three-way highway.
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no.. I got chips there last week. There's a kebab shop next door or next door but one. I go past daily on my commute.
 
twistedAM said:
I don't want to disappoint you but I was driving past the other day and it seemed to be a kebab place now or something.
Might be wrong though as you have to concentrate on driving on that one-way as there's always some dick that tries to make it into a two-lane road so they can cut in, and sometimes there's even some other bright spark wanting to make it a three-way highway.
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Are you trying to give us all a heart attack.....that's the chippies job!
 
The chipper is definitely still there - unless they removed it between my journey home this evening and now and turned it into a kebab shop next to the other kebab shop.
 
twistedAM said:
I said seemed to be another business. Could be wrong but there's definitely a new fast food place on that stretch very close to where the chippy is/was.
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I walk\cycle past everyday....there's a old sign on a shop that says "bagel and juices" that has been uncovered. I'm probably wrong though and would be glad if there is a new one.
 
alfajobrob said:
I couldn't remember if it had been reviewed already, I was too lazy to search and just wanted it put on a plate...like lunch if I go there tomorrow :)
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just looked back.. I think you went?, then Ringo, then Smick... you didn't eat by the sounds of it - they did and really liked it. I'm in my cups so might be confused.
 
I was under the impression that the Italian place is opening soon. I hope so - looking forward to it!

I met gaijinmum briefly today by the way gg...:)
 
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