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Was the killing in Woolwich murder or part of the war?

I think we have a winner in the "Trot analysis of Woolwich most likely to win mass working class support" competition:


For Adebolajo and Oluwatobi, Against Imperialist wars in Muslim lands"


http://socialistfight.com/2013/05/3...obi-against-imperialist-wars-in-muslim-lands/

a face palm out of face palms would be appropriate for this level of stupidity.
you can be critical of the Wests latest crusades without offering any support to militant Islam which has to be one of the more stupid political movements ever. The Taliban managed to make Afghanistan one of the worlds worst countries which was quite an achievement because the mujhadean had made such great gains in making Afghanistan a shithole:(

A slightly more nuanced response would have noted the attack happened because of anger about British Foreign policy but militant Islam is no solution replacing a corrupt western backed puppet regime with a theocratic tyranny is amazingly a backward step as hard as that is too accept things can actually get worse. Militant Islam gives simple answers to complex problems unfortunately life is complex the koran and a gun is no more a solution to the worlds problems than the neocons so called plan
 
I think we have a winner in the "Trot analysis of Woolwich most likely to win mass working class support" competition:


For Adebolajo and Oluwatobi, Against Imperialist wars in Muslim lands"


http://socialistfight.com/2013/05/3...obi-against-imperialist-wars-in-muslim-lands/

a face palm out of face palms would be appropriate for this level of stupidity.
you can be critical of the Wests latest crusades without offering any support to militant Islam which has to be one of the more stupid political movements ever. The Taliban managed to make Afghanistan one of the worlds worst countries which was quite an achievement because the mujhadean had made such great gains in making Afghanistan a shithole:(

A slightly more nuanced response would have noted the attack happened because of anger about British Foreign policy but militant Islam is no solution replacing a corrupt western backed puppet regime with a theocratic tyranny is amazingly a backward step as hard as that is too accept things can actually get worse. Militant Islam gives simple answers to complex problems unfortunately life is complex the koran and a gun is no more a solution to the worlds problems than the neocons so called plan
 
which is equally if not more short-sighted
I would be interested in seeing any justification you can cobble together for staying in a party apparently solely on the basis of some historical sympathy with its previous policies while claiming scant support for its current policies.
 
no, not even on the basis of its previous policies (so much). But it's historical roots in the class, its claim to represent w/c interests and the structural ties to the unions - it is still an important site of struggle and occupies a key strategic place. In lots of respects it represents an obstacle - but the fight over the direction of any future Labour government needs to take place inside and outside the party.
 
no, not even on the basis of its previous policies (so much). But it's historical roots in the class, its claim to represent w/c interests and the structural ties to the unions - it is still an important site of struggle and occupies a key strategic place. In lots of respects it represents an obstacle - but the fight over the direction of any future Labour government needs to take place inside and outside the party.

Will this cant ever stop?
 
I'm sure someone must have pointed this out but is it really a war if niether side actually says its war? its more a series of miserable events that make us all feel shit and just add to the litany of violence that seems to characterise everything and we get to sit by and have a big old weep or rant about it. War normally has tanks, flyboys, men with guns and conscript soldiers

is it war if nobody says it is?
 
Wars traditionally have a point even if it was only to go nick a golden stool.
operation telic doesnt really not that the talibans plan is any better kick the foreigners out so we can slaughter are fellow afghans in peace rather fails in the imagination.
 
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