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Vault 7 - Massive Wikileaks release on CIA eavesdropping

Yep. The people who imprison whistleblowers have your best interests at heart. Sure they do.

First they came for the whistelblowers...
 
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Spymaster said:
Nonsense.

Possibly in he very distant future with "driverless" cars, but current vehicles simply don't have the equipment in them to allow remote control.
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Former U.S. National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism Richard A. Clarke said that what is known about the crash is "consistent with a car cyber attack". He was quoted as saying "There is reason to believe that intelligence agencies for major powers — including the United States — know how to remotely seize control of a car. So if there were a cyber attack on [Hastings'] car — and I'm not saying there was, I think whoever did it would probably get away with it."

this is in reference to the death of journalist michael hastings.
 
:( Is this C21st politics will be now. Strip back to the polar ideals (that are both nuts) and chose a side. :rolleyes:

If every there was a grey area its with spooks. Tying their hands defeats the point of them and leaving them entirely to their own devices leads to dystopia.. What you really want to look at is a decent complaints procedure - and we ain't got one.
 
i think the important thing about this leak is not the espionage aspect but the development and use of hacking tools as cyber weapons for offensive action and the fact that the cia has lost control of these weapons.
 
discokermit said:
Former U.S. National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism Richard A. Clarke said that what is known about the crash is "consistent with a car cyber attack". He was quoted as saying "There is reason to believe that intelligence agencies for major powers — including the United States — know how to remotely seize control of a car. So if there were a cyber attack on [Hastings'] car — and I'm not saying there was, I think whoever did it would probably get away with it."

this is in reference to the death of journalist michael hastings.
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Yeah, see subsequent posts.

It would have to be done on a car that already had a certain level of kit in it, or to one that you had fitted gear to. Take your motor for example. There's no way that the steering could be controlled by an outside influence unless motors or pushers, or some kind of mechanical device was fitted to the steering system. It can't be done by magic. There are mechanical things that have to happen.
 
discokermit said:
i think the important thing about this leak is not the espionage aspect but the developement and use of hacking tools as cyber weapons for offensive action and the fact that the cia has lost control of these weapons.
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Thats like watching the beginiing of the Spy Who Loved Me and agreeing nobody does it better as he floats down with his Union Jack parachute. Its not really good craft to have tools that would give you away as a spook and definitely bad craft if they are traceable to one source.
 
Spymaster said:
Yeah, see subsequent posts.

It would have to be done on a car that already had a certain level of kit in it, or to one that you had fitted gear to. Take your motor for example. There's no way that the steering could be controlled by an outside influence unless motors or pushers, or some kind of mechanical device was fitted to the steering system. It can't be done by magic. There are mechanical things that have to happen.
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watch the documentary i posted earlier about the cia/mossad attacks on the iranian nuclear plant. they broke centrifuges by adjusting their speed through the programmable logic controllers that direct them. it's fiendishly clever.

Stuxnet - Wikipedia
 
Spymaster said:
Yeah, see subsequent posts.

It would have to be done on a car that already had a certain level of kit in it, or to one that you had fitted gear to. Take your motor for example. There's no way that the steering could be controlled by an outside influence unless motors or pushers, or some kind of mechanical device was fitted to the steering system. It can't be done by magic. There are mechanical things that have to happen.
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Given the date stamp of 2013 I'd agree.
 
gosub said:
Thats like watching the beginiing of the Spy Who Loved Me and agreeing nobody does it better as he floats down with his Union Jack parachute. Its not really good craft to have tools that would give you away as a spook and definitely bad craft if they are traceable to one source.
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they aren't traceable at all.
 
mikey mikey said:
Not nearly as big an idiot as the person who trusts the CIA, if track records are anything to go by ...
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I'll take the CIA, MI5/6, et al, over Manning and your other heroes, to protect my current immediate interests any day of the week, you cliché mongering dunce.
 
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TomUS said:
I'm shocked....shocked to discover the CIA is doing it's job......spying.....in this case mainly on communications. What's the big surprise? So far, I've seen no evidence in this leak these spy techniques were used on US citizens, just that they could be. That would cross the legal line. Spying on anyone outside the US is a legitimate CIA function, just as other countries intel agencies do. It's a good leak.
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Trump is the president of your country and you are happy for him to have the intelligence agencies use these powers on you and yours. Incredible.
 
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