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I know there's a few Lib Dem voters here, so I'm interested to hear your response to Clegg's cuddling up to the Tories.

Do you now feel proud of your vote? Ashamed? Cheated? Delighted?
 
Ashamed and naive really - oh and disappointed. Should have gone with my instincts and not voted at all.

I don't feel cheated as I voted tactically so can't say I wanted a LibDem govenment but I did hope that they would veer towards labour, without Brown, rather than Cameron. Hence the naiviety.
 
QueenOfGoths said:
I did hope that they would veer towards labour, without Brown, rather than Cameron.
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Is that still impossible?

Brown resigns, someone like Alan Johnson takes over, promises referendum on PR, minority Tory government staggers on for a bit or doesn't come together at all, then there's another election with the libdems explicitly pledging to join with Labour before the election...
 
QueenOfGoths said:
Ashamed and naive really - oh and disappointed. Should have gone with my instincts and not voted at all.

I don't feel cheated as I voted tactically so can't say I wanted a LibDem govenment but I did hope that they would veer towards labour, without Brown, rather than Cameron. Hence the naiviety.
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Did you miss him saying, time and time again, that he would talk to the party with the biggest mandate first? :confused:
 
claphamboy said:
Did you miss him saying, time and time again, that he would talk to the party with the biggest mandate first? :confused:
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You keep traipsing this out. You're like a broken record. Clearly, in the face of the amount of people who are disappointed, it's obvious this one statement wasn't the main thing people were thinking about when they decided to vote LibDem.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
Is that still impossible?

Brown resigns, someone like Alan Johnson takes over, promises referendum on PR, minority Tory government staggers on for a bit or doesn't come together at all, then there's another election with the libdems explicitly pledging to join with Labour before the election...
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Thus turning away all their anti-Labour voters and handing the Tories their majority. :facepalm:
 
Vintage Paw said:
You keep traipsing this out. You're like a broken record. Clearly, in the face of the amount of people who are disappointed, it's obvious this one statement wasn't the main thing people were thinking about when they decided to vote LibDem.
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And this - plus I thought that there was, and is, more common ground between labour and the lib/dems so that though he would talk to the tories first that might not mean anything would come of it
 
Vintage Paw said:
You keep traipsing this out. You're like a broken record. Clearly, in the face of the amount of people who are disappointed, it's obvious this one statement wasn't the main thing people were thinking about when they decided to vote LibDem.
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I keep repeating it, because some people seem to be too deaf or too stupid to wake up and smell the coffee.

The way the figures have turned-out, the LibDems have little choice – if the Tories had only managed around 270 seats and the LibDems 80-90 things could be different, but that’s not the case.
 
It's a failing of Clegg to keep his yap shut in the last week and a half of the campaign over the issue.
 
claphamboy said:
I keep repeating it, because some people seem to be too deaf or too stupid to wake up and smell the coffee.

The way the figures have turned-out, the LibDems have little choice – if the Tories had only managed around 270 seats and the LibDems 80-90 things could be different, but that’s not the case.
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Whether they have little choice or not isn't the point for some people. It is exactly a wake up call, something that finally drives home to a lot of people that Clegg is a yellow tory. Despite whether he has to talk to Cameron or not, it's something that's highlighting his proclivity for those types of policies.

Again, not everyone realised this before the election - whether because they're stupid, naive, politically illiterate or willfully ignorant.
 
I know sod all about economics and running the country and tend to vote on gut instinct - which is why it was such a shock when the Labour government I'd helped vote in, led by a hideous changeling, cuddled up to a vile US president and took us into one illegal war, and another impossible one...

That and spending a vast amount of money we didn't have....

Apart from my two dalliances with Labour, I have always voted LibDem because of libertarianism and PR.
My gut reaction now is to let the Tories founder and thereby force another election - but would the result be any different ?
 
littlebabyjesus said:
Is that still impossible?

Brown resigns, someone like Alan Johnson takes over, promises referendum on PR, minority Tory government staggers on for a bit or doesn't come together at all, then there's another election with the libdems explicitly pledging to join with Labour before the election...
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Ah, the postman, who left school at 15, and as far as I'm aware has had no further education. :rolleyes:
 
i think that if the Lib Dems get PR through it will be worth it cos it will be the last Tory govt EVER!
 
Ah, the postman, who left school at 15, and as far as I'm aware has had no further education.
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Elitist git, pulled himself up by his own bootstraps didn't he, anyway, more successful than you.
 
I'm not sure whether I'd rather they ally with the Tories and mitigate their worst policies, or let them flounder alone. I'd love to see the Tories fail, but they'd take us down with them. It depends what the Tories offer.

Clegg did say he'd talk to the biggest party first, and the Libs and Labour together don't have enough votes for a coalition; add in more parties and it'd be an unworkable mess - it'd also be morally wrong for all the other parties to gang up and keep the Tories out even though they got the most votes. Perhaps a wrong I could live with, but not when it'd likely be an enormous fuck-up too.
 
Vintage Paw said:
I admit, I am obsessed with pointing out your inability to understand the full extent of people's disappointment in Clegg, yes. Because it's tiresome seeing you consistently fail to get the point.
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WTF?

I can understand SOME people maybe disappointed, and SOME others are throwing their toys out of the pram because their rabid anti-toryism has overtaken any sense of what is fair and right, they lost and of course they are disappointed but you can't blame Clegg for the outcome.
 
Sasaferrato said:
Ah, the postman, who left school at 15, and as far as I'm aware has had no further education. :rolleyes:
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So what? John Major failed his o level maths and got sacked as a bus conductor because he couldn't add up right, we put him in charge of the economy and the country!

Refreshing not to have a 'professional politician' all the same, don't you think?
 
Some poll done for the papers tomorrow show only about 30% support for a Lib/Lab government, and that basically reflects the outcome of the election and the position the LibDems find themselves in.
 
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