Undercover policing enquiry

[kingfisher]

Possibly because there are substantive accounts (and a sadly-long history) of Twathaven having committed the former crime, but only your word for the latter?

ill chin the cunt

 

[Pickman's model]

ill chin the cunt

You little fantasist you

 

[kingfisher]

You little fantasist you

bloody everybody wets their knickers calling someone an operative of british intelligence but its alright to dcall em a rapist, eh bizarre, but its not the kingfisher show,

I'm an activist mate, I don't just tiddle about on the internet

 

[Pickman's model]

bloody everybody wets their knickers calling someone an operative of british intelligence but its alright to dcall em a rapist, eh bizarre, but its not the kingfisher show,

I'm an activist mate, I don't just tiddle about on the internet

You piddle about all over urban tho

 

[kingfisher]

You piddle about all over urban tho

WELL I HOPE ITS ALL QUOTED AT THE INQUEST - - -

 

[Pickman's model]

WELL I HOPE ITS ALL QUOTED AT THE INQUEST - - -

Don't go and play on the motorway. Or the railway. Or hide and seek with your sis mates. And then maybe, just maybe, there won't be an inquest.

 

[alan_]

Possibly because there are substantive accounts (and a sadly-long history) of Twathaven having committed the former crime, but only your word for the latter?

Are there any links you could guide me to because I have no knowledge and am quite surprised. PM if its easier.

 

[LDC]

Oh ffs, I go away for a bit and then come back to this.

editor, please ban kingfisher for good now, he's ruining and again making serious unsubstantiated accusations on threads.

kingfisher you're a fucking deluded nightmare, fuck off and get your illnesses sorted.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Are there any links you could guide me to because I have no knowledge and am quite surprised. PM if its easier.

Just do a forum search, or indeed google him under any of his names/pseudonyms.

My own knowledge of him is direct experience from around the mid-nineties, when he was circulating in neo-Pagan and eco-activist/road protest circles, before Newbury somewhat put his name on the map. A lot of what I know is pre-internet, and was related to me at the time, in confidence, by two women who didn't know each other.

I've always made clear, even to the man himself, that I have no time for him, and the reason I have no time for him, just in case you think it's not on, writing about a chap who can't defend himself.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Oh ffs, I go away for a bit and then come back to this.

editor, please ban kingfisher for good now, he's ruining and again making serious unsubstantiated accusations on threads.

kingfisher you're a fucking deluded nightmare, fuck off and get your illnesses sorted.

Or at least ban him from this thread. This is an important issue which has personal resonance for many of us here and it's being lost in an avalanche of hateful nonsense.

 

[kingfisher]

Or at least ban him from this thread. This is an important issue which has personal resonance for many of us here and it's being lost in an avalanche of hateful nonsense.

sorry lads iv seen it , ive seen undercover coppers, ive bloody named them, iv been on to the blowder with my friend and shes got me this south african scumbags passport number and DOB -- the occupy -- an active service unit of spykids argentinian , south african, english hungarian - geting serviced out of New Horizons camden council charity, he, ========= done the dirty on my friend, ad just because hes not of a particular unit covered by pitchfrod your gonna say thats not valid?? COPS and Islington pROTesrsts against police spies, this fucking apparant rapist (again i reitereate if its just [eople chatting on the net i would prefer to be Jaccused of being a spy than a rapist _) - but theres people
what the fuck do i know???
what did you reckon of my interview with westminster top copper??
im in edinbuegh now anyway, zny good secret spy street drinking spots here that you know about im staying on the pleasance?

 

[SpookyFrank]

Well thanks for clearing that up.

 

[kingfisher]

my pal needs to be compensat3ed

 

[Pickman's model]

my pal needs to be compensat3ed

Forget your pal, we should be compensated for putting up with your drivel

 

[Pickman's model]

sorry lads iv seen it , ive seen undercover coppers, ive bloody named them,

I bet you have. I bet you picked the names of dead children for them and sniggered as you did it.

 

[editor]

sorry lads iv seen it , ive seen undercover coppers, ive bloody named them, iv been on to the blowder with my friend and shes got me this south african scumbags passport number and DOB -- the occupy -- an active service unit of spykids argentinian , south african, english hungarian - geting serviced out of New Horizons camden council charity, he, ========= done the dirty on my friend, ad just because hes not of a particular unit covered by pitchfrod your gonna say thats not valid?? COPS and Islington pROTesrsts against police spies, this fucking apparant rapist (again i reitereate if its just [eople chatting on the net i would prefer to be Jaccused of being a spy than a rapist _) - but theres people
what the fuck do i know???
what did you reckon of my interview with westminster top copper??
im in edinbuegh now anyway, zny good secret spy street drinking spots here that you know about im staying on the pleasance?

If you keep on accusing random people of criminal acts, you will be banned. Go start your own website for that kind of shit, please.

 

[kingfisher]

I bet you have. I bet you picked the names of dead children for them and sniggered as you did it.

dead children, what are you talking about. dont ban me please. ill give this site a rest for a few days. me and my friend need compensating. they sent me mad thesepeople, and got her up the duff.
there is no monopoly on people who were hurt by this tragedy.
i like to think im a journalist, i inverweieid the top copperin westminster earlier.
its like you dont want to know the truth.
like i said i will give the site a rest.
for the lurkers, for the future historians

 

[teqniq]

 

[kingfisher]

is the only problem with that that the MI5 had the irish brief at the time and he was the "wrong sort of spy(cop)

 

[DaveCinzano]

Pitchford will be considering issues around the use of the identities of dead children by undercover police tomorrow:

Deceased children's identities - Undercover Policing Inquiry

https://www.ucpi.org.uk/wp-content/...submissions-by-Bindmans-deceased-children.pdf

Barbara Shaw - mother of the real Rod Richardson - and Gordon Peters (father of Benjamin) were both interviewed on Radio 4's ‘Today’ err, today, as well as their lawyer, Jules Carey. Listen/download here:

 

[teqniq]

Core Participant? Your Name’s Not Down, You're Not Coming In - Campaign Opposing Police Surveillance

 

[teqniq]

Victims of police spying accuse Theresa May of cover-up

Victims of a police spying scandal in Scotland have accused Theresa May of a cover-up after the UK government declined to extend an inquiry into undercover policing north of the border.

Harry Halpin, pictured inset, and Jason Kirkpatrick yesterday said they were angered by the UK government’s decision not to include Scotland in its investigation into police spying....

 

[teqniq]

Actor Ricky Tomlinson demands inquiry into police spying on him

Ricky Tomlinson, the actor who starred in the TV comedy The Royle Family, has called for a proper investigation into why police covertly monitored his political activities.

Tomlinson, 76, who says he and others were unjustly jailed over their roles in a strike that has become a cause célèbre for trade unionists, is pressing the judge-led public inquiry into the undercover infiltration of political groups to launch a thorough investigation.

His call comes after a police officer working for a secretive police department that spied on political activists has said he saw the secret file on Tomlinson....

 

[teqniq]

Core Participants Condemn Scotland Exclusion - Campaign Opposing Police Surveillance

In the wake of the Home Office decision not to extend the Pitchford inquiry to Scotland, a group of core participants who were spied on there have issued this statement:

We are core participants at the undercover policing inquiry. We are extremely frustrated that Theresa May decided to exclude events in Scotland from the inquiry.

We have all been personally chosen as core participants because we were significantly targeted by officers in England and Wales. We were also all spied upon in Scotland. We cannot have faith in the ability of the inquiry to deliver an opportunity for truth and justice when it is prevented from fully establishing what happened to us....

 

[DaveCinzano]

The Met is showing itself to be very tetchy at the reversal of its own investigative techniques onto it by citizen-sleuths, including some not unknown in this parish:

https://www.ucpi.org.uk/wp-content/...pporting-J-and-K-and-Open-Redaction-Table.pdf

 

[DaveCinzano]

And yes, LinkedIn is definitely the only OSINT stream URG uses in its diabolical work

*STRAIGHTFACE*

 

[DrRingDing]

Keep up the good work!

 

[DrRingDing]

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[DaveCinzano]

John Dines (AKA ‘John Barker’) has been avowed as one of Metropolitan Police Special Branch's Special Demonstration Squad undercover officers:

https://www.ucpi.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/161220-press-notice-JD.pdf

Statement from target Helen Steel:

While I welcome the official admission that my former partner John Dines was an undercover policeman in the Special Demonstration Squad, it is a travesty that the police have been allowed to take this long to confirm what I and others exposed years ago.

Even after they issued a public apology for serious human rights abuses to myself and six other women who had been deceived into relationships with undercover policemen, the police still argued they could not confirm the identity of my abuser. To date, despite that apology, they have also refused to confirm the identity of Mark Jenner who deceived ‘Alison’ into a five year relationship.

We and other women similarly deceived have had no disclosure at all about how these abusive relationships were allowed to happen, instead we have been subjected to intrusive demands for evidence of the effects of the abuse. None of those responsible for this abuse have been held to account – even those still employed by the police have kept their jobs.

It is an insult to the many victims of political undercover policing that the police who are responsible for serious human rights abuses have been allowed to cover up the truth and withhold information from those they abused. The public inquiry should release as a matter of urgency the cover names of all these political police and also the files they compiled on campaigners, so that those spied on are able to understand what happened and give relevant evidence to the inquiry.

We know that over a thousand campaign groups have been spied upon by these political undercover policing units. This represents a significant interference with the right to political freedom of thought and the right to protest. Ultimately it is a means for those who hold power to preserve the status quo and prevent social change. For this reason it is in the public interest for the cover names of all the political undercover police to be released, along with the files they compiled so that those who have abused their power can be held to account, the public learns the true extent of this political spying in this country and further human rights abuses by such units can be prevented.

 

[DaveCinzano]

This comes on top of the admission last month that ‘Marco Jacobs’ was an undercover officer of the National Public Order Intelligence Unit:

https://www.ucpi.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/161110-press-notice-N519.pdf

One of the women into whose lives ‘Jacobs’ inveigled his way, ‘Deborah’, is still being stymied by the Met, which is dragging its feet on disclosure:

Woman deceived by undercover officer accuses police of delaying lawsuit

There's also an interview with her (identity obscured) on Channel 4 News at themoment:

Undercover police in Welsh anarchist group